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What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!

 
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What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
The catholic faith and their beliefs can be summed up I the Nicene Crede!

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The catholic faith and their beliefs can be summed up I the Nicene Crede!

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It's all right there what Catholics really believe
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
The catholic faith and their beliefs can be summed up I the Nicene Crede!

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They can not deny this! This is central to their faith
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
The catholic faith and their beliefs can be summed up I the Nicene Crede!

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If you want to dispute a catholic use this
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Spamming your own thread. Tsk, tsk.
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Spamming your own thread. Tsk, tsk.
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Just clarifying their stance
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Spamming your own thread. Tsk, tsk.
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You want to attack Catholics use that.
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
What's your point?
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What's your point?
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Everything else is just noise
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What's your point?
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If you are going to attack them-attack their central belief system (if u have a problem with it)
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Spamming your own thread. Tsk, tsk.
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It's pretty concise and to the point what they really believe
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
Op. You know damn well that the creed is sort of comparable to The preamble to the constitution of the United states.

You also know likewise that the universal Catholic church has many more laws and doctrines not represented in the creed, just as the US has many more statute and doctrines not represented in the constitution.
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About to head to mass

Peace be with you. OP
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Op. You know damn well that the creed is sort of comparable to The preamble to the constitution of the United states.

You also know likewise that the universal Catholic church has many more laws and doctrines not represented in the creed, just as the US has many more statute and doctrines not represented in the constitution.
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Op I know that to attack an institution you must understand what they stand-what is there universal belief- everything is just interpret ion!
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Its weird how they say at the end " I look forward to the dead being ressurected." I am sorry but I dont want the dead ressurecting. How can people not see through this. I really feel that it is very insecure people that want to be part of a group.
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
Op. You know damn well that the creed is sort of comparable to The preamble to the constitution of the United states.

You also know likewise that the universal Catholic church has many more laws and doctrines not represented in the creed, just as the US has many more statute and doctrines not represented in the constitution.
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Op I know that to attack an institution you must understand what they stand-what is there universal belief- everything is just interpret ion!
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Ahh I see the problem clearly. Your self identity is so wrapped up in the organization that you interpret an attack on that organization as an attack on you.

The problem is not Catholic people Op. It's the organization.
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Its weird how they say at the end " I look forward to the dead being ressurected." I am sorry but I dont want the dead ressurecting. How can people not see through this. I really feel that it is very insecure people that want to be part of a group.
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Even evangelicals believe that
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Op. You know damn well that the creed is sort of comparable to The preamble to the constitution of the United states.

You also know likewise that the universal Catholic church has many more laws and doctrines not represented in the creed, just as the US has many more statute and doctrines not represented in the constitution.
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Op I know that to attack an institution you must understand what they stand-what is there universal belief- everything is just interpret ion!
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Ahh I see the problem clearly. Your self identity is so wrapped up in the organization that you interpret an attack on that organization as an attack on you.

The problem is not Catholic people Op. It's the organization.
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So let me get this straight you can't find anything in their central document to criticize?
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What's your point?
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If you are going to attack them-attack their central belief system (if u have a problem with it)
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The only thing I have a problem with, is their idolatry, calling Priest's and the Popes, their "Father", as well as Catholic Dogma, that is contrary, and their Nicoletian way's.
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
Op. You know damn well that the creed is sort of comparable to The preamble to the constitution of the United states.

You also know likewise that the universal Catholic church has many more laws and doctrines not represented in the creed, just as the US has many more statute and doctrines not represented in the constitution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70389926


Op I know that to attack an institution you must understand what they stand-what is there universal belief- everything is just interpret ion!
 Quoting: Oxi moran



Ahh I see the problem clearly. Your self identity is so wrapped up in the organization that you interpret an attack on that organization as an attack on you.

The problem is not Catholic people Op. It's the organization.
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So let me get this straight you can't find anything in their central document to criticize?
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I am not a believer at all, but I find it fruitless and somewhat absurd to disparage people's spiritual beliefs.
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Op I know that to attack an institution you must understand what they stand-what is there universal belief- everything is just interpret ion!
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Ahh I see the problem clearly. Your self identity is so wrapped up in the organization that you interpret an attack on that organization as an attack on you.

The problem is not Catholic people Op. It's the organization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70389926


So let me get this straight you can't find anything in their central document to criticize?
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I am not a believer at all, but I find it fruitless and somewhat absurd to disparage people's spiritual beliefs.
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My point should be clear-the Nicene creed sums up what they believe-it is central to their faith!!! All I keep hearing about is how bad Catholics are- yet these creed seems to be right on spot with most Christians I know
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
Yep, that's central to our faith and we pray it at every Sunday mass. The apostles's creed is slightly different, but sometimes used interchangeably with the Nicene.
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Ahh I see the problem clearly. Your self identity is so wrapped up in the organization that you interpret an attack on that organization as an attack on you.

The problem is not Catholic people Op. It's the organization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70389926


So let me get this straight you can't find anything in their central document to criticize?
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I am not a believer at all, but I find it fruitless and somewhat absurd to disparage people's spiritual beliefs.
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My point should be clear-the Nicene creed sums up what they believe-it is central to their faith!!! All I keep hearing about is how bad Catholics are- yet these creed seems to be right on spot with most Christians I know
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In fact it is more on spot than any churches creed I have ever read!!!
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What about "Roman" Catholics?

For them add in the prayers to mary and the "saints", idolizing the pope and communing with the dead, and weird "relic's" such as vials of blood of dead people that are used ritually and in the same manner as necromancy.
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Yep, that's central to our faith and we pray it at every Sunday mass. The apostles's creed is slightly different, but sometimes used interchangeably with the Nicene.
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I am sure you understand I am not bashing-literally in awe how well written this Crede is
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What about "Roman" Catholics?

For them add in the prayers to mary and the "saints", idolizing the pope and communing with the dead, and weird "relic's" such as vials of blood of dead people that are used ritually and in the same manner as necromancy.
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Where in this creed are they wrong?
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
Op. You know damn well that the creed is sort of comparable to The preamble to the constitution of the United states.

You also know likewise that the universal Catholic church has many more laws and doctrines not represented in the creed, just as the US has many more statute and doctrines not represented in the constitution.
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Op I know that to attack an institution you must understand what they stand-what is there universal belief- everything is just interpret ion!
 Quoting: Oxi moran



Ahh I see the problem clearly. Your self identity is so wrapped up in the organization that you interpret an attack on that organization as an attack on you.

The problem is not Catholic people Op. It's the organization.
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So let me get this straight you can't find anything in their central document to criticize?
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I was born and raised Catholic.. I have a lot to criticize about the Catholic church.

In the creed, they claim to be apostolic - or teachings relating to the 12 apostles... who were taught by Jesus.
As a former Catholic, it made me sick to see the pomp and circumstance, opulance, gold all over the place on the altars, and male clergy taking up half of the churches during the Pope's masses. It was disgusting.

They should be in sack cloth and selling all that gold and giving the monies to the poor. It's so much against what Christ taught.

This pope must have been nauseated from all of the pomp and circumstance. The only time he smiled was when he was with the poor. This is what Christ taught.

Those masses should have been filled with the poor people, not clergy first and wealthy people who won church lotteries to gain an inside ticket. Seriously.

I'm on a rant because the Catholic church is not walking the walk and is just talking the talk of what Christ taught his apostles. Seriously...teeshirts and Pope swag?

What would Christ want from an apostolic church?
Shed the glitzy uniforms, and sell the gold...
Go serve others...and for God sake, feed the poor!
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Re: What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!
How could any Christian-not believe Catholics are Christians after reading that?
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What about "Roman" Catholics?

For them add in the prayers to mary and the "saints", idolizing the pope and communing with the dead, and weird "relic's" such as vials of blood of dead people that are used ritually and in the same manner as necromancy.
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Simply call us the Catholic church. Prayers to Mary and other saints aren't much different from you asking someone else to pray for you. The only difference is the saints like Mary are praying for us in Heaven. The pope is a leader like a priest or bishop, but at the highest rank. He isn't idolized. The "vial of blood" you referring to is probably the blood of Christ, which is consumed at each mass along with the body of Christ, also known as communion or the Holy Eucharist. When Christ told his apostles at the last supper, "this is my body" and "this is my blood", referring to the bread and wine, he meant it literally. It's a miracle performed at every mass.
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Yep, that's central to our faith and we pray it at every Sunday mass. The apostles's creed is slightly different, but sometimes used interchangeably with the Nicene.
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I am sure you understand I am not bashing-literally in awe how well written this Crede is
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Yes, I understand. hf
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