This is the ONLY real tragedy ongoing from Fukushima!! Hint: It's NOT Radiation/TEPCO! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/05/2015 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I forget: i was on the Airport at the Eve of the 03/15 (after Reactor Nr. 3 exploded) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70448995 with me was nearly all Europeans, as well as many American People from Kanto and Tohoku. The US evacuated all Families of Higashi-Japan, only the Army itself remained. I will never forget the apocalyptic Feelings of that Days, i will never forget the Tears in the Eyes of the People, it was one of the darkest Times i had ever gone through. Where did you get the information that the families were evacuated??? There was a "Voluntary" evacuation ONLY! You are right no doubt about the feelings of that day, as is to be expected!! What Army post is in Higashi?? The only post that is Army in Kanto Japan is Camp Zama near Atsugi and Brady Barracks in Roppongi unless it is a joint services not well known facility...So I don't know how you came by "ALL" families were evacuated. That is the kind of sensationalism I am trying to correct. Yokusuka! I did not asked them, also the People was in separated Groups and Terminals because ca. 80% of the Flights was chatered by the Embassies and Companies! ...... At Yokosuka Naval Base, which lies about 300 kilometers from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, alarms went off indicating an increase in radiation levels. All women and children on the base were immediately ordered to evacuate. Because the U.S. Navy has nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, it has strict safety standards for radiation levels. The alarm was likely triggered by radiation that had reached the base from Fukushima. U.S. government officials who were notified became very concerned because of the possibility that the Yokosuka Naval Base, considered of major strategic importance in East Asia, would become inoperable if the situation at the Fukushima plant worsened. [link to ajw.asahi.com] In that Time the US had wrong Intel that the Spent Fuel Pool of Nr. 4 is without any Water, so they panicked, which is understandable! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70268620 Japan 10/05/2015 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I forget: i was on the Airport at the Eve of the 03/15 (after Reactor Nr. 3 exploded) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70448995 with me was nearly all Europeans, as well as many American People from Kanto and Tohoku. The US evacuated all Families of Higashi-Japan, only the Army itself remained. I will never forget the apocalyptic Feelings of that Days, i will never forget the Tears in the Eyes of the People, it was one of the darkest Times i had ever gone through. Where did you get the information that the families were evacuated??? There was a "Voluntary" evacuation ONLY! You are right no doubt about the feelings of that day, as is to be expected!! What Army post is in Higashi?? The only post that is Army in Kanto Japan is Camp Zama near Atsugi and Brady Barracks in Roppongi unless it is a joint services not well known facility...So I don't know how you came by "ALL" families were evacuated. That is the kind of sensationalism I am trying to correct. Yokusuka! I did not asked them, also the People was in separated Groups and Terminals because ca. 80% of the Flights was chatered by the Embassies and Companies! ...... At Yokosuka Naval Base, which lies about 300 kilometers from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, alarms went off indicating an increase in radiation levels. All women and children on the base were immediately ordered to evacuate. Because the U.S. Navy has nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, it has strict safety standards for radiation levels. The alarm was likely triggered by radiation that had reached the base from Fukushima. U.S. government officials who were notified became very concerned because of the possibility that the Yokosuka Naval Base, considered of major strategic importance in East Asia, would become inoperable if the situation at the Fukushima plant worsened. [link to ajw.asahi.com] In that Time the US had wrong Intel that the Spent Fuel Pool of Nr. 4 is without any Water, so they panicked, which is understandable! They were never ORDERED to evacuate, They were told to evacuate if they wanted to...Asahi clearly was caught up in the moment....It fell in line with many things at that point in time there was so much going on it would be easy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/05/2015 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Op. the Article "Prometheus Trap" was written nearly two Years after the 3/11 but this is not that important because the US-Civilian Families in Tokyo outnumbered the Army Families! And every normal Person evacuated at least their Kids in that Days because of Fear, all the Tragic, Aftershocks and the Panic in our Society! There was no Food left, the Gasoline Stations closed and we had Black Outs. Can you imagine Tokyo is darkness? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70268620 Japan 10/05/2015 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Op. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70448995 the Article "Prometheus Trap" was written nearly two Years after the 3/11 but this is not that important because the US-Civilian Families in Tokyo outnumbered the Army Families! And every normal Person evacuated at least their Kids in that Days because of Fear, all the Tragic, Aftershocks and the Panic in our Society! There was no Food left, the Gasoline Stations closed and we had Black Outs. Can you imagine Tokyo is darkness? Would be terrible! I would rather be in Tokyo in darkness rather than LA or NY or Houston TX....That's for sure! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/05/2015 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Op. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70448995 the Article "Prometheus Trap" was written nearly two Years after the 3/11 but this is not that important because the US-Civilian Families in Tokyo outnumbered the Army Families! And every normal Person evacuated at least their Kids in that Days because of Fear, all the Tragic, Aftershocks and the Panic in our Society! There was no Food left, the Gasoline Stations closed and we had Black Outs. Can you imagine Tokyo is darkness? Would be terrible! I would rather be in Tokyo in darkness rather than LA or NY or Houston TX....That's for sure! This is understandable But before this Thread is gone i want to know about your Theory: what was happening in FDNPS in the Days after the Tsunami Catastrophe and how do you explain the typical Traces/ Fingerprints of a uncontrolled Fission in our Environment? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/05/2015 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not the Op but want to tell you that this Issue is a big Topic here in Japan because the People who got evacuated because of the Contamination are fully supported with ca. 1.000$ each Month for each Person + free Accomodation and Health Service, also this People get fully compensated for the lost of Property. The Tsunami Victims in the North get nothing and lost their whole Community, not even the Donations (via the American Red Cross) arrived! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70376943 United States 10/05/2015 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not the Op but want to tell you that this Issue is a big Topic here in Japan because the People who got evacuated because of the Contamination are fully supported with ca. 1.000$ each Month for each Person + free Accomodation and Health Service, also this People get fully compensated for the lost of Property. The Tsunami Victims in the North get nothing and lost their whole Community, not even the Donations (via the American Red Cross) arrived! Well that's messed up, the folks in the North should also receive assistance. |
M1.618 User ID: 61275893 Canada 10/06/2015 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what's like actually happening? All is cool how much will the clean up cost to all the stake holders, dependant on the biosphere for life, What is the cost to plankton & the base organisms that consume them? what is the quantifiable & agreeable cost of resources how will it impact the economy What is the true cost in reality Is Fuku the straw that broke the camels back or should I take my family to the Olympics? wmMmw |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/06/2015 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe you provide a Hint where the Plankton accumulate the Caesium, as well as peer reviewed Studies about a negative Impact to the Sea Life because of the Emissions from the Accident? I think you are unable to do this because you love Hot Air but not Reality. The Fearmongols have a much bigger Impact than the Emissions from the Accident in FDNPS. The Lies from People like you killed much more People than Fukushima will ever do! |
Turkey456 User ID: 70220179 United States 10/06/2015 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been to the Tsunami inundation areas from Miyagi-ken to Iwate-ken. I drove up the coast view the devastated areas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70268620 I have been in the big Ghost towns where nobody lives, but the funny thing is there is public buses stopping at very stop not picking up anyone, as well as police driving up and down the streets.....Hmmm let me guess, bus driver's and police are expendable and their deaths will be covered up as well right? It is because their is no radiation.....! The biggest tragedy is the people still living in the rabbit box housing years later because of politics and corruption and the misuse of money intended to help the victims. Even if they could move back after building a house, there are no schools, convenience stores, post office, public services to this day in most areas that were wiped out... Explain the LARGE bags of contaminated earth, explain the dying pacific? You can not without bringing that disaster to light...FUKUSHIMA. Fisheries have been closed because of low counts on the west coast. How little BIG concerns need to spend to get public opinion swayed. |
M1.618 User ID: 61275893 Canada 10/06/2015 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ M1.618 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70448995 maybe you provide a Hint where the Plankton accumulate the Caesium, as well as peer reviewed Studies about a negative Impact to the Sea Life because of the Emissions from the Accident? I think you are unable to do this because you love Hot Air but not Reality. The Fearmongols have a much bigger Impact than the Emissions from the Accident in FDNPS. The Lies from People like you killed much more People than Fukushima will ever do! Like I said in reality you don't have a clue and can not project the full scope of damage as damage caused by radiation takes time to develop. The bottom line is there was a meltdown and you are clueless what the actual damage it caused to the biosphere and are doing whatever you are able to to shill it away. You have no clue as to the actual condition of the reactors due to your inability to view their state using any technology that exists. TEPCO is incompetent and in denial as proven during the week no work is done over Christmas / New Years. So no, I shouldn't go to the Tokyo Olympics.... If it even happens. :gaythread2: :youreafag: wmMmw |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/06/2015 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ M1.618 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70448995 maybe you provide a Hint where the Plankton accumulate the Caesium, as well as peer reviewed Studies about a negative Impact to the Sea Life because of the Emissions from the Accident? I think you are unable to do this because you love Hot Air but not Reality. The Fearmongols have a much bigger Impact than the Emissions from the Accident in FDNPS. The Lies from People like you killed much more People than Fukushima will ever do! Like I said in reality you don't have a clue and can not project the full scope of damage as damage caused by radiation takes time to develop. The bottom line is there was a meltdown and you are clueless what the actual damage it caused to the biosphere and are doing whatever you are able to to shill it away. You have no clue as to the actual condition of the reactors due to your inability to view their state using any technology that exists. TEPCO is incompetent and in denial as proven during the week no work is done over Christmas / New Years. So no, I shouldn't go to the Tokyo Olympics.... If it even happens. :gaythread2: :youreafag: You are unable to provide any Evidence about harm created by the Radioactive Emissions but you love to create Stress abd Fear, Stress & Fear are the biggest Killer (see Stress Related Deaths in F'Shima) People like you are responsible for this loss of Quality of Life, People like you and your lies are killing other People! PS: this is not my Thread, so go away with your stupid Homophobic Smiley. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/06/2015 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no radiation in fuku cause the wind is blowing to the westcoast idiot Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70490136 Also wrong, North America got less than 100 Terra-Bq of Emissions, ca. 75-80% of all Radioactive Pollution was released into the Sea, only ca. 20% was atmospherically released. This is one point why it was "a lucky Accident" because the Situation could be truly horrorible for Jepang but it isn't |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70448995 Japan 10/06/2015 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no radiation in fuku cause the wind is blowing to the westcoast idiot Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70490136 Also wrong, North America got less than 100 Terra-Bq of Emissions, ca. 75-80% of all Radioactive Pollution was released into the Sea, only ca. 20% was atmospherically released. This is one point why it was "a lucky Accident" because the Situation could be truly horrorible for Jepang but it isn't I made a mistake and need to correct my Statement: Highlights • 5 versions of an Eulerian model were used to simulate the Fukushima accident. • 23% of the released 137Cs deposited over Japan and 76% over the oceans. • 163 TBq of 137Cs deposited in North America, mostly in USA (95 TBq) and Canada (40 TBq). • 14 TBq of 137Cs deposited over Europe, 47 TBq over Asia, traces in Africa, Oceania and Antarctica. • The global mean lifetime of 137Cs was 13 days and the effective half-life 11 days. Source: [link to www.sciencedirect.com] You need to buy it when you want to know everything! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3407956 United Kingdom 11/05/2015 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been to the Tsunami inundation areas from Miyagi-ken to Iwate-ken. I drove up the coast view the devastated areas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70268620 I have been in the big Ghost towns where nobody lives, but the funny thing is there is public buses stopping at very stop not picking up anyone, as well as police driving up and down the streets.....Hmmm let me guess, bus driver's and police are expendable and their deaths will be covered up as well right? It is because their is no radiation.....! The biggest tragedy is the people still living in the rabbit box housing years later because of politics and corruption and the misuse of money intended to help the victims. Even if they could move back after building a house, there are no schools, convenience stores, post office, public services to this day in most areas that were wiped out... ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70268620 They their condition will never be confirmed...because they didn't melt down! The whole thing was part of something much bigger and much more secret. Great side story not to be told here. There are so many things you can observe and see that there was no melt down, no workers wearing proper protections, including the IAEA people. Reactor dismantling by heavy equipment just blowing debris out to sea....etc Discharging of water into the oceans, debris swept out to sea during heavy rains...it's all theater! People here aren't stupid, they are not going to intentionally shit in their own beds, killing themselves and their families by stupid oversights! Some people here know and most others don't as is intended. Now the fisherman understand to a certain extent the gave their nod to releasing waste water from reactor into the sea....The are not idiots either! "They their condition will never be confirmed...because they didn't melt down! " So I take it you hold a nuclear power engineers degree and have been on site to assess the situation. If not then what is your source to make the determination you hold to? Please don't tell me you actually believe the crap spewed from all the (including the 'alternative') media outlets. Pretty simple! The US military has the BEST and MOST capable detection equipment on the planet, not to mention all space based equipment. There isn't a nuclear fart that we can't see on the planet anywhere anytime! The Pac forces were authorized "voluntary" evacuation when this occurred (mainly Yokosuka and surrounding areas) as to not look like they did try to do something during it all. Did we have a theater wide evac? NO Did we fly out our Aircraft or put to sea all ships to keep the equipment from be irradiated? NO Did we at least protect the top brass and evac them and their families? NO Did we order a "mandatory" evacuation of any kind for any US Government personnel??? NO Hell even Obama visited here guess he wasn't too worried! Why is that? Is one to assume that we (US Military) is stupid, blind, incompetent? It must have been we didn't care....right? NO Simple we didn't run away because their was no real meltdown, we only had a few sailor's who tried to use the opportunity to get some money by suing but of course it got no where! It is funny at first to hear that, but when you REALLY try to look at reality and not the "controlled" news as bases...Many things just don't line up! You will see it if you are not trying to cherry pick things to support a pre conceived position.... Wow OP, just Wow! I've been waiting for ages for someone to report from 'on the ground' in that area. You're right, there was no explosion at the reactor. It was a made in Hollywood movie. I knew from looking at the pics - photoshop central, some of them are just RIDICULOUS! - that this was a Psyop. And the footage of the tsunami is all computer generated too, so I'm curious to know more of what you saw of the devastation. |