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Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?

 
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'Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as YOU have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour."- 1 John 2:18
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'Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as YOU have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour."- 1 John 2:18
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

A better question. Is claiming Christ is God denying God's sovereignty?
" Jesus spoke these things, and, raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you, 2 according as you have given him authority over all flesh, that, as regards the whole [number] whom you have given him, he may give them everlasting life. 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. 4 I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. 5 So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." Jo17:
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
that's what the bible says
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
that's what the bible says
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That is right


"Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son. 23 Everyone that denies the Son does not have the Father either. He that confesses the Son has the Father also."- 1 John 2:22,23
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
ah, there is no "christ" ... it is a STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - that anyone, can achieve - so being "anti-christ" would simply mean that you are willfully IGNORE-ant (of your full potential) ...

only an ignorant individual would believe that Jesus (who's last name wasn't "christ" and who denied being "the messiah") was the son of an ET or that that ET is our Creator, when it obviously NEEDs our support to exist.
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
'Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as YOU have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour."- 1 John 2:18
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

A better question. Is claiming Christ is God denying God's sovereignty?
" Jesus spoke these things, and, raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you, 2 according as you have given him authority over all flesh, that, as regards the whole [number] whom you have given him, he may give them everlasting life. 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. 4 I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. 5 So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." Jo17:
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Same difference

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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
ah, there is no "christ" ... it is a STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - that anyone, can achieve - so being "anti-christ" would simply mean that you are willfully IGNORE-ant (of your full potential) ...

only an ignorant individual would believe that Jesus (who's last name wasn't "christ" and who denied being "the messiah") was the son of an ET or that that ET is our Creator, when it obviously NEEDs our support to exist.
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Where does it say he denied being the Messiah?
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
ah, there is no "christ" ... it is a STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - that anyone, can achieve - so being "anti-christ" would simply mean that you are willfully IGNORE-ant (of your full potential) ...

only an ignorant individual would believe that Jesus (who's last name wasn't "christ" and who denied being "the messiah") was the son of an ET or that that ET is our Creator, when it obviously NEEDs our support to exist.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Where does it say he denied being the Messiah?
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Still waiting for the answer to that Sunny Daze
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
ah, there is no "christ" ... it is a STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - that anyone, can achieve - so being "anti-christ" would simply mean that you are willfully IGNORE-ant (of your full potential) ...

only an ignorant individual would believe that Jesus (who's last name wasn't "christ" and who denied being "the messiah") was the son of an ET or that that ET is our Creator, when it obviously NEEDs our support to exist.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Where does it say he denied being the Messiah?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Still waiting for the answer to that Sunny Daze
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Jeebuz is the sun. His dad, god, is the universe. Get over yourselves.
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
ah, there is no "christ" ... it is a STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - that anyone, can achieve - so being "anti-christ" would simply mean that you are willfully IGNORE-ant (of your full potential) ...

only an ignorant individual would believe that Jesus (who's last name wasn't "christ" and who denied being "the messiah") was the son of an ET or that that ET is our Creator, when it obviously NEEDs our support to exist.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Where does it say he denied being the Messiah?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Still waiting for the answer to that Sunny Daze
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Jeebuz is the sun. His dad, god, is the universe. Get over yourselves.
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angrynutOkay....yeah...that makes sense
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
it says it in the bible ... peter asked him directly if he was "the (long awaited) Messiah" and he said NO ... in no uncertain terms ...

Jesus's mission wasn't to SAVE you, it was to make you aware that you have the ability to SAVE YOUR SELF, just like he did ... he showed us how - and told us the truth would set us FREE from our slavery to a "god" that does NOT "do unto others as he would have them do unto him" and demands that you surrender your free will, to serve him - without your support, "god" has NO POWER.
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
it says it in the bible ... peter asked him directly if he was "the (long awaited) Messiah" and he said NO ... in no uncertain terms ...

Jesus's mission wasn't to SAVE you, it was to make you aware that you have the ability to SAVE YOUR SELF, just like he did ... he showed us how - and told us the truth would set us FREE from our slavery to a "god" that does NOT "do unto others as he would have them do unto him" and demands that you surrender your free will, to serve him - without your support, "god" has NO POWER.
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Sorry Sunny Daze...need an exact scripture and verse for that to be valid
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
ah, there is no "christ" ... it is a STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - that anyone, can achieve - so being "anti-christ" would simply mean that you are willfully IGNORE-ant (of your full potential) ...

only an ignorant individual would believe that Jesus (who's last name wasn't "christ" and who denied being "the messiah") was the son of an ET or that that ET is our Creator, when it obviously NEEDs our support to exist.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


What does God need from man, who is make of dust, mortal, and finite?
" For YOU are a mist appearing for a little while and then disappearing." Ja4;14
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
ah, there is no "christ" ... it is a STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - that anyone, can achieve - so being "anti-christ" would simply mean that you are willfully IGNORE-ant (of your full potential) ...

only an ignorant individual would believe that Jesus (who's last name wasn't "christ" and who denied being "the messiah") was the son of an ET or that that ET is our Creator, when it obviously NEEDs our support to exist.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
it says it in the bible ... peter asked him directly if he was "the (long awaited) Messiah" and he said NO ... in no uncertain terms ...

Jesus's mission wasn't to SAVE you, it was to make you aware that you have the ability to SAVE YOUR SELF, just like he did ... he showed us how - and told us the truth would set us FREE from our slavery to a "god" that does NOT "do unto others as he would have them do unto him" and demands that you surrender your free will, to serve him - without your support, "god" has NO POWER.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Sorry Sunny Daze...need an exact scripture and verse for that to be valid
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


In fact......

"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jo′nah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 13:16,17

Right there Peter identifies the Christ as Messiah...The word Messiah and Christ means the same thing....anointed one....

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it says it in the bible ... peter asked him directly if he was "the (long awaited) Messiah" and he said NO ... in no uncertain terms ...

Jesus's mission wasn't to SAVE you, it was to make you aware that you have the ability to SAVE YOUR SELF, just like he did ... he showed us how - and told us the truth would set us FREE from our slavery to a "god" that does NOT "do unto others as he would have them do unto him" and demands that you surrender your free will, to serve him - without your support, "god" has NO POWER.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Sorry Sunny Daze...need an exact scripture and verse for that to be valid
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


In fact......

"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jo′nah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 13:16,17

Right there Peter identifies the Christ as Messiah...The word Messiah and Christ means the same thing....anointed one....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos the Famous Atheist Ignoramus Phd here. You mean whachamacallit's last name wasn't Christ, as in son of Joseph and Mary Christ?
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
We are all living souls, we have bodies of flesh and blood given to us by God. So every human being walking around on the planet is an individual soul with a body made in the image of God. Your soul is who you are, you are not an eternal soul and you can be eternaly destroyed. Hell fire is total and eternal destruction of your soul. The soul inside the body of Jesus Christ is the Word of God. He through whom all things were created, there is nothing created that was not created by the Word of God,. For God spoke and it was, Jesus is the Word of God. Think about it. God made his word flesh!!!
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me."
Rev. 1:17-18, "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, 18 and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."
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Re: Religious Anti-Christ identity confusion...Could denying that Christ is God's Son make one part of true Anti-Christ?
it says it in the bible ... peter asked him directly if he was "the (long awaited) Messiah" and he said NO ... in no uncertain terms ...

Jesus's mission wasn't to SAVE you, it was to make you aware that you have the ability to SAVE YOUR SELF, just like he did ... he showed us how - and told us the truth would set us FREE from our slavery to a "god" that does NOT "do unto others as he would have them do unto him" and demands that you surrender your free will, to serve him - without your support, "god" has NO POWER.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Sorry Sunny Daze...need an exact scripture and verse for that to be valid
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


In fact......

"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jo′nah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 13:16,17

Right there Peter identifies the Christ as Messiah...The word Messiah and Christ means the same thing....anointed one....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos the Famous Atheist Ignoramus Phd here. You mean whachamacallit's last name wasn't Christ, as in son of Joseph and Mary Christ?
 Quoting: DGN


Yeah Amos, Jesus parents were called Mary and Joseph Chirstangrynut





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