The ark wasn't big enough to hold many people so if God knew they would decline his invitation why did Noah offer it for 120 years?

Probably an empty gesture lol

The gesture was good but, not much response. No different today.

there was no invitation.
the ark was supposed to be a warning, if they repented there wouldn't have been a flood, and the ark would have remained a monument for what could have been.

Same as none will accept salvation now. They prefer to be told how or what salvation is by going to "churches,man" for answers when the story of life lives within.. The arks doors are pretty close if not already closed . its the "covenet" spoken of by Jeremiah the Lord would write it "in" their hearts and in their minds. Once your "awake" and not walking dead anymore you will know your in the ark. SAFE. While the world goes into karma chaoes we will be protected right where we stand. Our Father is an Awesome Father never handing us snakes for living bread... Shalom

Many consider them selves approved by virtue of their own personal standards and expectations rather than going along with the 'tithe your way to heaven' crowd but, does that meet God's qualifications?
'All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti3:16

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Noah built his, if they had believed they could have made theirs. They did not so, why, no belief in them, they were not that far removed from the family of Noah not to know what God had said, they just like today, it not going to happen to us, look how long it been and nothing has happened.

Oh, ye with little faith, The Lord God is long suffering and waits but if you look he gave you the seasons of his coming.

Yes, here's your back up;
"For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice, that there were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and by those [means] the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. 7 But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men.
8 However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. 9 Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with YOU because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance" 2Pe3:5

There is nothing in the Bible that says that Noah was supposed to bring other people into the ark, besides his immediate family. There is nothing that says he invited people, or that he was even allowed to do so:

Genesis
6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.


Consider the case of Abraham. God said:

Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will show thee:

but Abram disobeyed and brought "Lot his brother's son" (12:5). That did not turn out well. But still, people blame God for Lot's and his daughters' behavior, even though Abram was not supposed to bring him.

So who was Noah preaching to?

A Good shepperd NEVER leaves his sheep. ;). He is ours and we are his forever!!!! Children of man will not listen to reason anymore at all. So our Fathers come to our side "literally" like a LION and ready to pounce whoever comes near to harm. For the Kingdom was destined to come to his children. Its here believe it or not but soon all evil will have its place in darkness.

Fair enough;
"“When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.
34 “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and YOU gave me something to eat; I got thirsty and YOU gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and YOU received me hospitably; 36 naked, and YOU clothed me. I fell sick and YOU looked after me. I was in prison and YOU came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to you?’ 40 And in reply the king will say to them, ‘Truly I say to YOU, To the extent that YOU did it to one of the least of these my brothers, YOU did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. 42 For I became hungry, but YOU gave me nothing to eat, and I got thirsty, but YOU gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, but YOU did not receive me hospitably; naked, but YOU did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but YOU did not look after me.’ 44 Then they also will answer with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them with the words, ‘Truly I say to YOU, To the extent that YOU did not do it to one of these least ones, YOU did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” Mt25:31

Because GOD knows everything..he is in the past-present-and future all at once...he will make the future work for the past...His word will stand forever....He is never wrong..late...confused...tired...mistaken...We on the other hand are all the above..the created not the creator, there are things our 3 pound (adult average) flesh brain cant comprehend...and yet some of us have this sense of entitlement on the things of GOD...kinda silly when you think about it..

Great expression but 2 things to review.
1. "GOD knows everything"
He knows a "great crowd no man can number" (Rv7:9) will be approved when Jesus does the judgment (Mt25:31) but, does he know who they individually are?
2. "he is in the past-present-and future"
He can calculate/ordain future events like the 1,000 year reign of healing but can he 'peer into the future'? The future dose not exist.

Everyone thought Noah was a nut case.

all the bad guys died (except for god) and look at the world today.. so your post makes no sense

The only reference I know of about Noah preaching is here:

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

Noah had a very long life. It doesn't say here when he did his preaching. It certainly does not say "Noah preached to people while he build the ark but the people laughed at him." That's a story from Sunday School, not from the Bible.

So.... was he preacher or a boat builder?

You have to read the new testament word upon word, line upon line,precept upon precept because there are two "peters " and this one is a liar with the "church" of Paul making a preacher someone "between" you and God. Noah may have ministered but the "priests" weren't even thought of until Moses because they were raised in the land of many Gods"Egypt" and had to be taught and brought back to the True God..Noah conversed with God like his father ABRHAM and that's how Noah believed it would be in the new world. And was until it was corrupted again but this Kingdom being brought in now will be of one spirit. The Lords spirit full of goodness. Then earth will be governed by its natural laws in peace once and forever. Thanks to our Lord who worked ours and earths salvation out with the MOST HIGH GOD.

That is an incredibly interesting viewpoint....

Yes, most original thinking.

It makes perfect sense. If they repented of the violence the flood would have been canceled;
"Noah was a righteous man. He proved himself faultless among his contemporaries. Noah walked with the [true] God. 10 In time Noah became father to three sons, Shem, Ham and Ja′pheth. 11 And the earth came to be ruined in the sight of the [true] God and the earth became filled with violence. 12 So God saw the earth and, look! it was ruined, because all flesh had ruined its way on the earth." Ge6:9

I like "original"....it does not come along much in life...


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Because he also knew they would say no.


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Yeah tell me about it, I've been from New York City to the moon and back.

You don't get it, only the good survived (which did nothing, the world is still horrible, the people that is) which means if everyone else repented it would lead to the same path either way.

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Yeah, maybe next time? Second times a charm?

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if the world remained crap when only the good survived, the others repenting making there be no flood would be pointless, and god would miss out on drowning babies making him even more angry and evil

Noah never offered anyone a place in the ark! Where did you read this?

Did you get this from one of your watchtower magazines?

If you did, it's false!

Noah was commanded to build the ark for himself, his family, and the animals. No one else.

The fate of the World was sealed, to be destroyed by a flood, the moment God gave Noah the command the build the ark.

Quite like today?