I don´t think Jesus drew a line in the sand...I think he drew a circle, and this is why

It wasn't unfair. You pretend to know what you don't know. And you set yourself up as the teacher. You are not my teacher. You're opinion is your opinion and not fact.

The things the Lord said more often than not made no sense to the carnal, spiritually blind of that time period as well.

LOL! I have no desire to be your teacher. I will continue to post here, and share here, as much as I want and if you have a personal problem with my posts, you're free to skip over them.

Your flawed perception of me is your problem, not mine.

Have a great day!

There where not Demon but a principality was in control of them and the situation ..!

Yaeshuah show him(principality) that he will break the square lines, in perpendicular for HER.

By making a circle..!

anyway..!

Of the Female Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven," Thomas 114.

What is God's will? Do you know God's will? God said for you not to oppress or hate the the foreigner, do you live up to that? Your post history says otherwise.

Stoning a woman for alleged adultery is God´s Law? I suppose he forgot when he said "though shalt not kill"

and Jesus is disagreeing with God? then you doubt Jesus is the Messiah evidently as God and Jesus are one for us Christians.

I'm still living with that delusion I have no idea what to do.
I mean it must have been a bad nightmare to be surrounded by 20-30 people with red scope sighted guns held hostage on me for a whole night. Then I must have dreamed in the hospital seeing my Mother Mary, Joseph, some of my disciples, Satan in my room at night in his spirit form entering into one of his angels talking to me in my room as he was across the bed from me, about 19-23 fallen angels outside the window holding up guns through the window and me holding the mattress with all my strength to shield me while I layed on the tile floor and I must have been dreaming when the nurse outside said "don't draw a hit" as they were nervous as to what was transpiring. I must have been dreaming when Mary gave birth to me again when she said to Mary M. that it was time and a manger appeared on the wall and I could barely walk after. I must have been deluded and dreaming the whole time Satan in the flesh came and I must have dreamed the whole time they fed him and he ate his meals amongst us in cafeteria. I must have been really deluded when the song "Running with the Devil" came on the radio and he was screaming the lyrics to it and yelling at me "don't touch the radio while I'm here little boy". Yes I must have been really deluded when God the Almighty Father came and spent time with me and fed me grapes loaded with THC, I bounced the basketball with him, we talked, he washed the bottom of my legs with body wash. I must have been dreaming when God was spiking all of the food with THC and Satan yelled "they're spiking the food with pot, I'm an animal"! I must have been dreaming and deluded when the nurses said "so that's how you heal the teacher" when I was checking out a cute girl in there. I must have been dreaming and deluded when a girl from the Illuminati came in and the first thing she said to me was you know who you are right. I also must have been dreaming when all my disciples were calling me Jesus. So yea I guess I'm still deluded. How about you don't open your mouth about something if you have no idea about it. Capiche?

He wrote the names of the women the casters of stones had adultery with, then he drew a triangle with the eye of providence inside it.

Are you saying most them are not?
And what if the person is? What is that to you?
Jealous?

You sure don't come across as spiritual.

So you know what spiritual is huh? Tell me what it is (hint ! Corinthians 2).

And no, I'm pretty sure most of them are not.

If you were spirit-taught you wouldn't be peddling the false trinity, friend.

No "false triniy" here Mono-tard. The Bible plainly shows it is you who are the false and blind guide, you are the one mis leading others. Here's another one for you to debunk (sure you will try as always). Hebrews 1:8 "..unto the Son He saith Thy throne o God..." Yea I know it's another translation "error". I bet your' eyes are brown are they not?

Yes, a lot of people are called "gods" in the bible, that's how the Hebrew language works, my ignorant friend. Only one is called the God of gods however (Deuteronomy 10:17, Psalm 136:2). His name is YHWH, Jesus called Him Father, and serving a God next to Him is not allowed (Exodus 20:2-3), something Jesus affirmed (Matthew 4:10).

I have the exact same God as Jesus. You don't

I worship the God Jesus commanded us to serve alone. You don't.

I worship the God Jesus said true worshippers will worship. You don't.

So was Jesus also "misleading"?

Jesus' God, the Father alone. (John 20:17)

Worship the Father/YHWH alone. (Matthew 4:10, Luke 4:8)

True worshipper worship the Father alone. (John 4:23)

So where's this elusive and abominable trinity of yours?

well you obviously never actually read the Bible if you can't see it. Jesus claimed to be God over a 100 times. accepted worship and even said to pray to him. all from a textual prospective, everywhere it calls Jesus Lord in scripture, it actually says YHWH/Jehovah in the original HEBREW and has been shortened in modern translations. Jesus said in Timothy that no-one has seen the Father but him, yet the entire OT has people face to face with God, why? because these where the incarnate Jesus and not the Father. Jesus also said him and the Father are as one. also said if you seen Him then you know the Father. he also called himself "I Am" which is a perfect present tense even when he was speaking about it in declaration of the past.

so in conclusion, you either have to do and listen to Jesus and see that there is more then Just the Father in the Godhead or you have to dismiss Jesus as a liar.

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likely because she wouldn't sleep with them

hypocrites

No, I don't dismiss Jesus as a liar, that's why I serve the God he commanded us to serve alone, his and our God.

"from a textual prospective, everywhere it calls Jesus Lord in scripture, it actually says YHWH/Jehovah in the original HEBREW and has been shortened in modern translations."

What? Surely you can't be this ignorant? The NT was written in Greek, not Hebrew, and when the OT says "LORD" instead of God's name in the OT it's not a "shortened translation", it's a substitution. God's name have been replaced by a substitute word, which is a violation of His commandment not to change His word. The word lord, kyrios in the Greek NT, in itself has nothing to do with the name, it means a person exercising authority. That's the literal meaning of the word. Abraham and Pilate are also called lord in the NT, are you claiming they are YHWH too, that absurd.

And there's no such thing as "accepting" worship, that's false trinitarian lie concocted by false teachers. Only a very corrupt and depraved mind would qwillfully perpetuate that lie if that have even a shred of biblical understanding. The Greek word translated as worship means to prostrate, they bowed down before him, which was the custom those days for anyone of stature, be they kings or high priests. The exact same "worship" rendered to the elect, king David, the step-father of Moses, angels, etc. (Revelation 3:9, 1 Chronicles 29:20, Joshua 5:14, Genesis 19:1, 2 Samuel 9:6, 2 Samuel 9:8, Exodus 18:7).

Claiming that the angel of YHWH is the pre-incarnate Jesus is another retarded argument made by trinity apologists. JW's make the same argument, the difference is it's consistent with their theology. Angel literally means messenger. The messenger of YHWH is by definition NOT YHWH. Just as the mediator, Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5), beween mankind and YHWH by definition is an not be either parties of mediation. You were touching the subject of another trinitarian lie too, that Jesus is uttering the Most High name from Exodus 3:14 in John 8:58. He did not. Jesus says "ego eimi", the name is "ego eimi ho on",and the emphasised words are not "ego eimi" but "ho on"

And yes, Jesus sais he and YHWH are one. Meaning they are of one purpose idiomatically expressed, which is obvious form context. Just as Paul declared that "he who plants and he who waters are one" in 1 Cor. 3:8. Jesus also prayed for his followers to become one as they were one, and one with them. Are they God too? You follow Jesus, right? Are you God? According to you own arguments you must be. You and king David, Abraham, Pilate, Moses' step-father, etc. That's a lot of Gods, time to expent the trinity?

The problem fo you is that the Father is explicitly identified as alone being YHWH.

But about the resurrection of the dead--have you not read what God said to you, I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living. Matthew 22:31-32

Then he said, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God. Exodus 3:6

And before you even start to further entertain the utterly blasphemous idea that this is Jesus, YHWH, the God of Abraha, Isaac and Jacob, this is what the Bible says in clear-cut, explicit, undeniable, irrefutable words:

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Acts 3:13

Not YHWH, the servant of YHWH! There can be no doubt! It's irrefutable. Peter testifying before devout Jews in Solomon's Colonnade. A similar testimony if given by Paul before the pagans at the Areopagus

For [God] has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead." Acts 17:31

Paul testified several times:

the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Rom 15:6

the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ 2 Cor 1:3

the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ 2 Cor 11:31

the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Ehp 1:3

the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Eph 1:17

the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Col 1:3

the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ 1 Pet 1:3


This is the one Jesus called his and our God, and affirmed we are to serve alone. This is the God of true worshippers. The Father alone. And if your God is not the Father alone you are a false worshipper worshipping a false God (-image).

Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" John 20:17

Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship [YHWH] your God, and serve him only.'" Matthew 4:10

Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. John 4:23

In this same passage he identifies the Father as YHWH, the God of the Jews. And we know for a fact that the Father alone is YHWH, several verses and passages attest to that. Jesus explicitly told you he did not come in his own name, but the name of the Father. What does that mean? Do the math? The do not share a name! Fact is that Jesus carries the name of his God; Jesus in Hebrew mean YHWH saves or YHWH is salvation. He came in the name of his God, what could be clearer? God's seal is his, the Father's, name on the forehead of the elect

And the Father/YHWH does not allow for gods next to Him, and He does not leave room for a trinity.

"I am YHWH your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 3"You shall have no other gods before Me Exodus 20:2-3

I am YHWH, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, Isaiah 45:5

In Deuteronomy (18:15-19) the children of Israel fearing their life pleads with Moses not to hear the voice of YHWH, so YHWH promise to raise up a prophet to speak His words. This is why Jesus spoke the words of the Father and taught His doctrine, and carried out His will. He spoke the words of YHWH so the voice of YHWH would not be heard (Acts 3:22-26).

And why do you think did not know the day or the hour, only the Father alone? Because he was affirmed Scripture!

It will be a unique day--a day known only to YHWH--with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light. Zechariah 14:7

Only YHWH knows.

Only the Father knows.

Therefore only the Father is YHWH. Fact!

As if this dead horse needs another beating, let's just make this absolutely clear in way only the most perverted and corrupt mind can possibly deny (without believing it's own denial). The Bible in clear-cut, explicit, undeniable, irrefutable words tells us the Jesus will fear YHWH. Not be YHWH, fear Him!

A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. The Spirit of YHWH will rest on him-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of YHWH 3 and he will delight in the fear of YHWH. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; Isaiah 11:1-3

Surely you're not perverted and rebellious enough to even attempt a refutation of God's own words. It's time to concede that you have been mislead by the harlot church. It's time to abandon and repent of that false trinity idol and acknowledge the only true Most High God, friend. There will be no trinitarian in the kingdom of God.

and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen. Revelation 1:6

You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth." Revelation 5:10

The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Revelation 3:12

If The Story is True thier are Countless Theories of What he Wrote and why he Wrote it

Yet I have reason to doubt the Authenticity of it .

Definitive and authoritative

He made a circle because he's a Commie!

If looked at symbolically, demons are equated to human-jerks.
Alot of people use mythic language in everyday life and don't even reaize it. Those who use it group together due to their similar language and call themselves a name, like Catholics, or Muslims.
Religious groups of peolle are simply people who commonly use symbolic language.

Sin doesn't mean to transgress. Maybe by sinning you are doing so. But SIN is an term from archery which means "To Miss the Mark."

And yet we must use judgment - God requires it.

God requires blood for blood.

You can judge people who are guilty of things of which you are innocent.

Do you think Jesus would have let murderers go?

He said himself that he had no intention of overturning the laws of Moses.

It is dangerous to assume too much about crime and punishment from one borderline case.

That village might have been full of adulterers, who didn't dare testify.

Without two witnesses against the woman, Jesus had to let her go.

It should also be understood that adultery includes all forms of cheating.

A lot of people cheat.

He wrote their names of the women they were each having adultery with. They dropped the stones knowing he knew what there was no way he could have known.

You're a legalistic one eh? Look up the definition. The Bible isn't a law book. It's a book of Love and Compassion. Just like Jesus Christ showed the adulteress.

Incidentally when Jesus said "Let the one without Sin throw the first stone." There was only one person qualified to throw the stone. It was Him. And he didn't. We learn about people through their fruit. Just like Jesus said.