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Eurozone crosses Rubicon as Portugal bans anti-euro parties from taking power
Portugal has entered dangerous political waters. For the first time since the creation of Europeís monetary union, a member state has taken the explicit step of forbidding eurosceptic parties from taking office on the grounds of national interest.

Anibal Cavaco Silva, Portugalís constitutional president, has refused to appoint a Left-wing coalition government even though it secured an absolute majority in the Portuguese parliament and won a mandate to smash the austerity regime bequeathed by the EU-IMF Troika.

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Hold on a minute. What's the point of elections if the results are going to be overturned? NWO or what!
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The dictatorship will come soon enough, even without a new Hitler.
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Yep, totalitarianism is here.
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bump
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Well done!!!

All Euro sceptic parties should be forbidden. They are against progression!!!

clappa
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10/24/2015 07:54 AM
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Hitler banned all other parties too iirc
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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Well done!!!

All Euro sceptic parties should be forbidden. They are against progression!!!

clappa
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Says the guy from Belgium

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Re: Eurozone crosses Rubicon as Portugal bans anti-euro parties from taking power
Well done!!!

All Euro sceptic parties should be forbidden. They are against progression!!!

clappa
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Says the guy from Belgium

cruise
 Quoting: PirateMonkey


It's Hermann van Rumpy-pumpy. He's getting worried, his little empire's crashing down round his ears.
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The dictatorship will come soon enough, even without a new Hitler.
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Trump fits all the characteristics of a Hitler.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump isn't part of the plan.

That said, I kind of sort of would like to see him be the next POTUS.
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"There can be no democratic choice against the European Treaties" - Jean Claude Juncker - EU commission president.
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It maybe so. that totalitarianism is here.

It is worth remembering ,last time people willingly sleepwalked in to it. This time people are waking up. primarily because of what happened the last time. I don't think EU has a future anymore. Mass unchecked immigration in to the EU from the ME, and sickening subservience to a US master has awoken the masses. It will only get worse. One only need look at the normally passive Germans.
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Looks like they need a leader too.


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Well done!!!

All Euro sceptic parties should be forbidden. They are against progression!!!

clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70639022


Says the guy from Belgium

cruise
 Quoting: PirateMonkey


It's Hermann van Rumpy-pumpy. He's getting worried, his little empire's crashing down round his ears.
 Quoting: Tess.


On that note, this video is now required for this thread


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Re: Eurozone crosses Rubicon as Portugal bans anti-euro parties from taking power
1. The president has the obligation to indicate for prime minister the leader of the most voted party (mid-right coalition).

2. There was no real agreement between left parties (3), just some talks.

3. Parliament is the one that aproves (or not) the new government.

4. Only then the president should talk to anyone else in order to secure a stable majority in the parliament that supports a new governement.

Personaly don't who take it, but know what you talking about when saying this stuff (and yes, the president made a awful speach)
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check out our presidente when he was a prime minister... munchies time!

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check out our presidente when he was on campaign... munchies time!


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Well done!!!

All Euro sceptic parties should be forbidden. They are against progression!!!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70639022


:youreafag:
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Well done!!!

All Euro sceptic parties should be forbidden. They are against progression!!!

clappa
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stfu
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You mean to tell us that democracies are bullshit and that elections are rigged???

No way!
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You mean to tell us that democracies are bullshit and that elections are rigged???

No way!
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But now they're not even pretending, they're blatant about it.
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You mean to tell us that democracies are bullshit and that elections are rigged???

No way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66706403


But now they're not even pretending, they're blatant about it.
 Quoting: Tess.


It is now treason to oppose their treason?
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You mean to tell us that democracies are bullshit and that elections are rigged???

No way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66706403


But now they're not even pretending, they're blatant about it.
 Quoting: Tess.


Not true at all.

These elections we're for the socialists to lose. The general public is fed up with austerity. The we're polling 10pt above just 6 months ago.

But performed so badly in the campaign that the moderate voter chose to keep the mid-right coalition in first place.

The 3 left parties weren't able to produce an agreement. The just anounced they found a verbal undestanding. Not enought in the constitution to be handed the governement at the first try.

You really don't know what you are talking about.
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Sure, the right-wing coalition won the elections.

Nonetheless they dont have a majority in the parliament so it was a dead end from the begining. The biggest left-wing party, PS, did not accept a proposal from the winning coalition to join them and so have a parliamentary majority.

The most obvious option is for PS to invite the other leftist parties, BE and PCP, to form a left-win coalition and form a government.


With this in mind, and knowing that the President is the most sectarian President we had since the dictatorship no one expected him to invite the left-wing coalition to form the government and so he appointed the right-wing parties. Our constitution does not say the wining party must form government, it is just a ''tradition''.


Next week the right-wing must announce the government program, and as expected, the majority will say no, the government will not pass, and the left-wing coalition will then announce its own government program.

So we just have to wait another week and the parliament will do what our President did not have the balls to do.

Last Edited by Lab Rat on 10/24/2015 09:30 AM
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Sure, the right-wing coalition won the elections.

Nonetheless they dont have a majority in the parliament so it was a dead end from the begining. The biggest left-wing party, PS, did not accept a proposal from the winning coalition to join them and so have a parliamentary majority.

The most obvious option is for PS to invite the other leftist parties, BE and PCP, to form a left-win coalition and form a government.

With this in mind, and knowing that the President is the most sectarian President we had since the dictatorship no one expected him to invite the left-wing coalition to form the government and so he appointed the right-wing parties. Our constitution does not say the wining party must form government, it is just a ''tradition''.

Next week the right-wing must announce the government program, and as expected, the majority will say no, the government will not pass, and the left-wing coalition will then announce its own government program.

So we just have to wait another week and the parliament will do what our President did not have the balls to do.
 Quoting: Lab Rat


Mostly agreed. And that's the way things should go. And the probable result will be a 3 way left party government.

But they tried to push the president (who is a donk, i would agree) to propose them to form a gorvernment without a program and a written agreement.

In my view, that's not acceptable and not democratic.
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"There can be no democratic choice against the European Treaties" - Jean Claude Juncker - EU commission president.
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Let him try to stop it. History is far more powerful than any political entity



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"There can be no democratic choice against the European Treaties" - Jean Claude Juncker - EU commission president.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70618098


Let him try to stop it. History is far more powerful than any political entity


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But they have done it before, firstly with the French. They voted against the Lisbon treaty then got forced to vote again. Then the same thing happened with the Irish. The Dutch people voted against it, then their MP's forced it through anyway...
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WOW! In our lifetime!

But it figures - did you know that the royal Portoguese coat of arm has two draconians on it?

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WOW! In our lifetime!

But it figures - did you know that the royal Portoguese coat of arm has two draconians on it?

(Please embed)


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OP - please put this pic in your first post.
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Look, the problem here is that during the campaign the leftists accused each other of every and anything. The PCP (communist party) accused PS (socialists, moderate left) of being the same as PSD (moderate right), now they want to govern together. Any thinking person knows it's insane and unethical, meanwhile the media pushes for this leftistleftist coalition to rule and four years of sacrifices will go to the drain because these guys (who brought US to the IMF mercy 3 times in the last 40 years) say there's money to give everyone their free shit.

There are some things I agree with in left side ideology, but I know that realistically no one will be able to change how things are done. Also, if the left parties had intentionally announced a coalition during campaign the right side coalition would've probably won a majority because no one wants the PCP in power and that's proven by their 15% voting or below since we became a democracy.
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Look, the problem here is that during the campaign the leftists accused each other of every and anything. The PCP (communist party) accused PS (socialists, moderate left) of being the same as PSD (moderate right), now they want to govern together. Any thinking person knows it's insane and unethical, meanwhile the media pushes for this leftistleftist coalition to rule and four years of sacrifices will go to the drain because these guys (who brought US to the IMF mercy 3 times in the last 40 years) say there's money to give everyone their free shit.

There are some things I agree with in left side ideology, but I know that realistically no one will be able to change how things are done. Also, if the left parties had intentionally announced a coalition during campaign the right side coalition would've probably won a majority because no one wants the PCP in power and that's proven by their 15% voting or below since we became a democracy.
 Quoting: Montblanc



Following your logic no one wants the CDS-PP party as well, since they have never had a close to 15% voting when running alone and they were part of the last government and form the coalition.

Face it, left-wing had more votes than the right-wing. What can we expect from a right-wing government? They will never have enough votes to pass a single law. Is this the stability that our wannabe-president so much desires?

Let democracy flow, the deputies will choose the new government.
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Re: Eurozone crosses Rubicon as Portugal bans anti-euro parties from taking power
WOW! In our lifetime!

But it figures - did you know that the royal Portoguese coat of arm has two draconians on it?

(Please embed)


[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70637187


that is not the Portuguese coat of arms

this is the Oficial Coat of Arms of the Portuguese Republic

[link to commons.wikimedia.org (secure)]

Last Edited by Lab Rat on 10/24/2015 11:08 AM





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