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I posted this about a month ago. Thread: Chinese President is in Seattle Tuesday . The Chinese President was here to do some business with some Seattle companies like Boeing. China said they would purchase 300 boeing 737 if boeing opened a factory in China. Boeing agreed and you know how that works... "Open your factory and we get all our IP not get out of China!!!" The Boeing employees protested the move, but Boeing Execs don't give a xxxx.

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China debuts first large jet in challenge to Boeing, Airbus
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China unveiled a prototype of its first homegrown passenger jet it hopes will compete with airliners from Boeing and Airbus Group, setting the stage for the plane’s first flight sometime next year.

Several thousand people gathered Monday as Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China, known as Comac, rolled out the single-aisle C919 at its manufacturing and assembly center in Pudong, near Shanghai’s main airport. The twin-engine plane emerged from layers of red curtains with gold trimming to applause and patriotic songs blaring from the sound system.

“The air-transportation industry of China cannot completely rely on imports,” Li Jiaxiang, head of China’s civil-aviation administration, said in a speech. “A great nation must have its own large commercial aircraft.”

China’s focus on a homegrown aerospace industry is part of a broader push to elevate its economy into the ranks of advanced industrialized nations by 2020.


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If you don't know, BOEING makes up nearly all our GDP numbers. If they move their business, there goes our GDP negative... Can't fudge those numbers anymore.

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If they build their jetliners with the same quality controls that they use in the construction of everything they make, what could possibly go wrong?

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For money, colleges and universities of western countries take in foreign students.

What do you expect now ?
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Guaranteed they reversed engineered Boeing and Airbus. They steal everything, saves money on R&D.
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No way I would ever fly on that one.

If they don't properly bake out the hydrogen after plating the fasteners, hydrogen embrittlement will begin.

One fine day those fasteners will fail. Under load. In the air.

You heard it here first.

BTW, retired aerospace engineer here who has now been in the plating biz for 13 years.
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No way I would ever fly on that one.

If they don't properly bake out the hydrogen after plating the fasteners, hydrogen embrittlement will begin.

One fine day those fasteners will fail. Under load. In the air.

You heard it here first.

BTW, retired aerospace engineer here who has now been in the plating biz for 13 years.
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I doubt their hilocs are any different
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Would never get on one, the China manufacturing quality is shit and I bet it will crash when testing starts.
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Buy two,on sale at Walmart next week.
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I posted this about a month ago. Thread: Chinese President is in Seattle Tuesday . The Chinese President was here to do some business with some Seattle companies like Boeing. China said they would purchase 300 boeing 737 if boeing opened a factory in China. Boeing agreed and you know how that works... "Open your factory and we get all our IP not get out of China!!!" The Boeing employees protested the move, but Boeing Execs don't give a xxxx.

[link to www.seattletimes.com]

Wait for it.... NOW

China debuts first large jet in challenge to Boeing, Airbus
[link to www.seattletimes.com]

China unveiled a prototype of its first homegrown passenger jet it hopes will compete with airliners from Boeing and Airbus Group, setting the stage for the plane’s first flight sometime next year.

Several thousand people gathered Monday as Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China, known as Comac, rolled out the single-aisle C919 at its manufacturing and assembly center in Pudong, near Shanghai’s main airport. The twin-engine plane emerged from layers of red curtains with gold trimming to applause and patriotic songs blaring from the sound system.

“The air-transportation industry of China cannot completely rely on imports,” Li Jiaxiang, head of China’s civil-aviation administration, said in a speech. “A great nation must have its own large commercial aircraft.”

China’s focus on a homegrown aerospace industry is part of a broader push to elevate its economy into the ranks of advanced industrialized nations by 2020.


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If you don't know, BOEING makes up nearly all our GDP numbers. If they move their business, there goes our GDP negative... Can't fudge those numbers anymore.
[/quotline. Fact. When Concorde was being developed, Russian spies stole the blueprints and ip, they implemented them line for line, but they were not technically advanced enough to deal with building a supersonic passenger jet, their Concorde clone crashed and was deemed unstable hard to control and unsafe. It was abandoned.
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The general description of how they have stolen intellectual property sometimes, and demanded it overtly other times, is correct.

But it's impossible that in one month, Boeing transferred IP that significantly affected this particular aircraft.

It is likely that future versions and future new designs will use Boeing IP.
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I wouldn't want to be on that jet once the warranty expir, as. Chances are, a week after the limited 1year warranty is up, it will just fall from the sky.
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China has NO idea how to get out of its own way...dumb. as. fuck!
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china makes cars that are rejected world wide for failing all types of regulated standards

what makes china think they can make a plane correctly?


you don't see the taliban, al qaeda, or ISIS driving chinese made junk. They want the good American and Jap stuff

They won't drive any European crap because homosexuality is against islamic beliefs
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If they build their jetliners with the same quality controls that they use in the construction of everything they make, what could possibly go wrong?


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Population control China style
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The general description of how they have stolen intellectual property sometimes, and demanded it overtly other times, is correct.

But it's impossible that in one month, Boeing transferred IP that significantly affected this particular aircraft.

It is likely that future versions and future new designs will use Boeing IP.
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Boeing is working there today. They can steal over years
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Would never get on one, the China manufacturing quality is shit and I bet it will crash when testing starts.
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ISIS will probably claim they shot it down too!
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Would never get on one, the China manufacturing quality is shit and I bet it will crash when testing starts.
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ISIS will probably claim they shot it down too!
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Lol
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Airbus started the same way.
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Buy two,on sale at Walmart next week.
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Right, they are only $8,999.00 right now.
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they already built a 717 clone the arj-21, and it looks like a pretty good copy, id fly on it for free.
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You dont understand how we chinese operate. We pay very high salary to white engineers to supervise the entire process. We just worry about how much we can earn from this white man orchestrated project.

No way I would ever fly on that one.

If they don't properly bake out the hydrogen after plating the fasteners, hydrogen embrittlement will begin.

One fine day those fasteners will fail. Under load. In the air.

You heard it here first.

BTW, retired aerospace engineer here who has now been in the plating biz for 13 years.
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If a white engineer refuses our offer, we simply buy him a sexy wife plus a up scale condo somewhere. He be back.

You dont understand how we chinese operate. We pay very high salary to white engineers to supervise the entire process. We just worry about how much we can earn from this white man orchestrated project.

No way I would ever fly on that one.

If they don't properly bake out the hydrogen after plating the fasteners, hydrogen embrittlement will begin.

One fine day those fasteners will fail. Under load. In the air.

You heard it here first.

BTW, retired aerospace engineer here who has now been in the plating biz for 13 years.
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