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"Belgian court orders Facebook to stop tracking non-members
Nov 10 2015


"THERE HAS BEEN A CREEPY DEVELOPMENT WITH FACEBOOK
Get off Facebook NOW, and NEVER hit anyone elses profile or click a like again, EVER, Facebook is now BANNED for anyone with an ounce of awareness
Via a bug Facebook installs when you visit their web site or click a like, even if you have no account with facebook Facebook can keep on monitoring visitors permanently forever after, including all phone numbers, PASSWORDS TO OTHER WEB SITES, every site you ever visit ever again, and more.
There has been a new development with Facebook. Facebook now plants a bug on your computer that hands them your phone numbers, browsing history, and tracks all future history as well as all photos and anything else you do on your computer if you ever hit the web site or ever click a like, even if you have no facebook account. Facebook has gone full hostile, AVOID FACEBOOK LIKE THE PLAGUE.

How do I know this? Easy, Belgium ordered them to stop doing it, and published the court case.

A court in Belgium has ordered Facebook to stop tracking the country's Internet users who are not members of the US-based social networking website.

"Today the judge... ordered the social network Facebook to stop tracking and registering Internet usage by people who surf the Internet in Belgium within the 48 hours which follow this statement," the court said on Monday.

The ruling follows a case lodged in June by the Belgian Privacy Commission, which said Facebook indiscriminately tracks Internet users when they click "like" or "share" on the website, or when they visit Facebook pages even if they do not have accounts with the website, according to the court.

"If Facebook ignores this order it must pay a fine of 250,000 euros (269,000 dollars) a day to the Belgian Privacy Commission," the court noted.

It also said the networking site uses a special cookie called "datr" that lodges on Internet users' device to track their activities.

Datr provides Facebook with access to an amazing amount of user's personal information, such as the Internet protocol (IP) address of the computer, browsing data, outside login information, phone numbers, AND MORE. What can be defined as "more?" Well, More than IP address, browsing data, login information to other web sites, and phone numbers has GOT TO mean your photos, anything you type, EVERYTHING because that is the only way it could be more than log-ins to other web sites and your phone numbers! FACEPLANT IS MALWARE ON STEROIDS, AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO SIGN UP OR INSTALL ANYTHING, ONE HIT TO FACEPLANT GETS YOU NAILED.

The Belgian court also said "this is personal data, which according to Belgian law, Facebook can only use if the Internet user expressly gives their consent, as Belgian privacy law dictates."

In response, Facebook said it would appeal against the decision, emphasizing that the cookie was safe.

"We've used the datr cookie for more than five years to keep Facebook secure for 1.5 billion people around the world," the website's spokesman said in a statement emailed to AFP.



LET ME DEFINE HOW FACEBOOK DEFINES SECURE AND SAFE: "OUTSIDE LOG IN INFORMATION" MEANS WEB SITES OTHER THAN FACEBOOK. HOW "SECURE" OR "SAFE" IS IT FOR FACEBOOK TO GET YOUR GMAIL, PAYPAL, AND OTHER LOG INS WHEN THERE IS NO CONCEIVABLE WAY THEY WOULD WANT THEM IF THEY DID NOT INTEND TO USE THEM?
Despite Paypal log ins being encrypted, all it takes is a keylogger to hand over the data, outside the encryption stream. If Faceplant is so invasive they deserve your Yahoo, Gmail, and other "outside" log in data, what is stopping them from logging everything, and I MEAN EVERYTHING?

Yeah, the cookie (which is malware by a different name if it can do all of that) is "safe" for the spy community, which can then obviously use it as a gateway to rape everything on your computer and anything you have on the web wholesale. That is the only way "more" than "outside log ins and phone numbers" can possibly be "more". Got a skydrive? Faceplant is IN! Got an online bank account? Faceplant is IN! Got a web site you administer? Faceplant is in there too, they have gone five steps over the line and off the cliff, DITCH THEM OR IT WILL BE DOOM, FACEPLANT IS THE NSA WITH NO CHECK AND BALANCE WHATSOEVER.

I hate to say it, but Facebook could probably even censor other web sites via that "cookie!" If they are that invasive, Facebook could do it ALL if they have THAT MUCH access to your computer.

And this court case in Belgium is very real, it happened, this is not a guess, an uncle story, or any sort of fiction. Most likely the only way to make sure Facebook is gone for good is to wipe your hard drive and start over, and NEVER hit that site again or ever even click a "like" EVER AGAIN. I am confident Faceplant is way too filthy to get rid of just by "deleting cookies",

If they set something up that can get your phone numbers and log in data to other web sites and more just because you visited their site with no account at all, well, that is a hell of a lot more than just a cookie, that is the most virulent auto-installing malware on the planet and if they can install that type of program on your computer automatically without you knowing it, they can plant any "evidence" they want on your computer as well, NO IFS OR BUTS."
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This is OK, then folks??

You are down with this type of data being taken from you?

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I will be back in the morning to

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this for those not seen....

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there is a reason Zuckerberg is invited to the UN meetings, he knows everything about anyone at the click of a button, that means he also knows the dirt on anyone.

The guy is the most powerful man in the world by far.

Facebook is embedded in 95% of daily commercial internet traffic, so there you go.

It is installed on 90% of all devices capable of running an internet connection, it is designed to record voice, store pictures and video, get your login details, keeps track of your location, simply put it stores everything about you, forever.
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Thanks for posting. I live in Belgium and don't have a FB account but I sometimes click on FB links. It's hard to avoid these days as most schools and companies use it to share news. I do delete cookies on a regular basis and was wondering if that also gets rid of this special FB cookie. Or is it different from "normal" cookies in any way? Does anybody here know?
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Thanks for posting. I live in Belgium and don't have a FB account but I sometimes click on FB links. It's hard to avoid these days as most schools and companies use it to share news. I do delete cookies on a regular basis and was wondering if that also gets rid of this special FB cookie. Or is it different from "normal" cookies in any way? Does anybody here know?
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My pleasure! hf
It would be refreshing if my country would follow Belgium's lead!
They (fb) will get a huge daily fine if they don't comply!

The reporter who gave an opinion above, seems to think clearing cookies probably will not do the trick. It is more like malware...with a keystroke logger, to boot.

This would certainly explain how leaders like Merkel, have allowed what has happened in the ransack of their countries....blackmail.

I can imagine her face if some porn got planted on her...she would be appalled, and afraid of what others would think, IMHO!

This has been going on for 5 years before being busted by your country!
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Time for a mega class action over american army run corporations....
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there is a reason Zuckerberg is invited to the UN meetings, he knows everything about anyone at the click of a button, that means he also knows the dirt on anyone.

The guy is the most powerful man in the world by far.

Facebook is embedded in 95% of daily commercial internet traffic, so there you go.

It is installed on 90% of all devices capable of running an internet connection, it is designed to record voice, store pictures and video, get your login details, keeps track of your location, simply put it stores everything about you, forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70750348


Which is why I stay low tech...basic basic...
no wireless...no camera...no mic....no upgraded system.

I have to avoid java and flash.

I have had the feeling that judges, lawmakers, etc., have been quick to heel on their leash.
This explains how they are blackmailed into obedience.
Incriminating data...photos...emails, deposits to bank accounts that raise eyebrows...
all this could be done under such a system of malware.

The 'forever' part of your post really took my breath away... to think of it!

Last Edited by Tree of Life on 11/10/2015 03:35 AM
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Thanks for the pin!

hf

Might want to let folks know about this one!
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It would have to go worldwide...
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holy crocodile shit batfink!

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Facebook is crap but this is
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Facebook is crap but this is
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nope its true.
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Set your browser to delete all (especially cookies) when you close it. Or use private mode.

Although, if someone really wants to know what you're doing and has the resources to find out they will.

CCleaner is something I use regularly.
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Set your browser to delete all (especially cookies) when you close it. Or use private mode.

Although, if someone really wants to know what you're doing and has the resources to find out they will.

CCleaner is something I use regularly.
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too late by the time you do that...

that cleans stuff ON your puter.....

cookies if there... have already sent what they needed to god knows where...
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Set your browser to delete all (especially cookies) when you close it. Or use private mode.

Although, if someone really wants to know what you're doing and has the resources to find out they will.

CCleaner is something I use regularly.
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too late by the time you do that...

that cleans stuff ON your puter.....

cookies if there... have already sent what they needed to god knows where...
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Well, of course. But cookies are the way that websites track you. Clearing them each time keeps them from finding out what you looked at last time, so that ads cannot know for instance.

If you want complete privacy, then you can't use the Internet or any modern electronic mediums.
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holy crocodile shit batfink!

damn.......
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Damn CP, You need to make a batch file to delete cookies. The one you did for the win10 updates was awesome.
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damn.......
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Damn CP, You need to make a batch file to delete cookies. The one you did for the win10 updates was awesome.
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You don't have to download anything to delete cookies.

All browsers all for that. IE, Firefox, Chrome, etc.
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damn.......
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Damn CP, You need to make a batch file to delete cookies. The one you did for the win10 updates was awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


You don't have to download anything to delete cookies.

All browsers all for that. IE, Firefox, Chrome, etc.
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*allow for
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Damn CP, You need to make a batch file to delete cookies. The one you did for the win10 updates was awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


You don't have to download anything to delete cookies.

All browsers all for that. IE, Firefox, Chrome, etc.
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*allow for
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


If someone had you download a batch file for Windows, then you need to immediately format your hard drive. You've been scammed.
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Damn CP, You need to make a batch file to delete cookies. The one you did for the win10 updates was awesome.
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You don't have to download anything to delete cookies.

All browsers all for that. IE, Firefox, Chrome, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


*allow for
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


If someone had you download a batch file for Windows, then you need to immediately format your hard drive. You've been scammed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


Nope. It is to delete multiple unwanted windows updates and it works as its supposed to.

You need to take more tech classes.

And yes, you can manually delete cookies, but most newbies would be able to do it a lot easier with a program that deletes them instead.

Just a few words from someone who's been online since the beginning.
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You don't have to download anything to delete cookies.

All browsers all for that. IE, Firefox, Chrome, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


*allow for
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


If someone had you download a batch file for Windows, then you need to immediately format your hard drive. You've been scammed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


Nope. It is to delete multiple unwanted windows updates and it works as its supposed to.

You need to take more tech classes.

And yes, you can manually delete cookies, but most newbies would be able to do it a lot easier with a program that deletes them instead.

Just a few words from someone who's been online since the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


That's entirely fine. But, a batch file to delete cookies is what I'm talking about - it makes no sense. Also, encryption, hash files, etc. for verification.
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*allow for
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If someone had you download a batch file for Windows, then you need to immediately format your hard drive. You've been scammed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


Nope. It is to delete multiple unwanted windows updates and it works as its supposed to.

You need to take more tech classes.

And yes, you can manually delete cookies, but most newbies would be able to do it a lot easier with a program that deletes them instead.

Just a few words from someone who's been online since the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


That's entirely fine. But, a batch file to delete cookies is what I'm talking about - it makes no sense. Also, encryption, hash files, etc. for verification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


I get what you're saying on the cookies, what I was implying is that someone needs to make a cookie tosser program that exposes when these pricks try to add those spying cookies. Something that basically calls them out to the person running the program in real time.

Imagine getting a popup from your program that says, Facade book wants to spy on you by adding this (tadr)cookie, would you like to allow this?

That shit would be epic.

I think people would love a non politically correct program that simply calls them on all of their spying B.S. cookies and trackers.
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If someone had you download a batch file for Windows, then you need to immediately format your hard drive. You've been scammed.
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Nope. It is to delete multiple unwanted windows updates and it works as its supposed to.

You need to take more tech classes.

And yes, you can manually delete cookies, but most newbies would be able to do it a lot easier with a program that deletes them instead.

Just a few words from someone who's been online since the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


That's entirely fine. But, a batch file to delete cookies is what I'm talking about - it makes no sense. Also, encryption, hash files, etc. for verification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


I get what you're saying on the cookies, what I was implying is that someone needs to make a cookie tosser program that exposes when these pricks try to add those spying cookies. Something that basically calls them out to the person running the program in real time.

Imagine getting a popup from your program that says, Facade book wants to spy on you by adding this (tadr)cookie, would you like to allow this?

That shit would be epic.

I think people would love a non politically correct program that simply calls them on all of their spying B.S. cookies and trackers.
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An EMP would solve all of these problems.
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If someone had you download a batch file for Windows, then you need to immediately format your hard drive. You've been scammed.
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Nope. It is to delete multiple unwanted windows updates and it works as its supposed to.

You need to take more tech classes.

And yes, you can manually delete cookies, but most newbies would be able to do it a lot easier with a program that deletes them instead.

Just a few words from someone who's been online since the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


That's entirely fine. But, a batch file to delete cookies is what I'm talking about - it makes no sense. Also, encryption, hash files, etc. for verification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


I get what you're saying on the cookies, what I was implying is that someone needs to make a cookie tosser program that exposes when these pricks try to add those spying cookies. Something that basically calls them out to the person running the program in real time.

Imagine getting a popup from your program that says, Facade book wants to spy on you by adding this (tadr)cookie, would you like to allow this?

That shit would be epic.

I think people would love a non politically correct program that simply calls them on all of their spying B.S. cookies and trackers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


Also, why don't you go make such a program?

"someone needs to make a cookie tosser"

Quoting you.
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Tried to 5star this thread & twice got error saying "not connected to Internet". I checked my connection, which was fine, & came back to thread again. 3rd time the charm. FIVE STARS wtf weird
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Nope. It is to delete multiple unwanted windows updates and it works as its supposed to.

You need to take more tech classes.

And yes, you can manually delete cookies, but most newbies would be able to do it a lot easier with a program that deletes them instead.

Just a few words from someone who's been online since the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


That's entirely fine. But, a batch file to delete cookies is what I'm talking about - it makes no sense. Also, encryption, hash files, etc. for verification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


I get what you're saying on the cookies, what I was implying is that someone needs to make a cookie tosser program that exposes when these pricks try to add those spying cookies. Something that basically calls them out to the person running the program in real time.

Imagine getting a popup from your program that says, Facade book wants to spy on you by adding this (tadr)cookie, would you like to allow this?

That shit would be epic.

I think people would love a non politically correct program that simply calls them on all of their spying B.S. cookies and trackers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


Also, why don't you go make such a program?

"someone needs to make a cookie tosser"

Quoting you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


there is a plethora of them already....

just for arguments sake, i wrote the "fuk-you-windows-10" batch file, so that people could read the source, and not encapsulated code.... ;)... it's still here somewhere ;)

Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 11/10/2015 06:14 AM
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That's entirely fine. But, a batch file to delete cookies is what I'm talking about - it makes no sense. Also, encryption, hash files, etc. for verification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


I get what you're saying on the cookies, what I was implying is that someone needs to make a cookie tosser program that exposes when these pricks try to add those spying cookies. Something that basically calls them out to the person running the program in real time.

Imagine getting a popup from your program that says, Facade book wants to spy on you by adding this (tadr)cookie, would you like to allow this?

That shit would be epic.

I think people would love a non politically correct program that simply calls them on all of their spying B.S. cookies and trackers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


Also, why don't you go make such a program?

"someone needs to make a cookie tosser"

Quoting you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


there is a plethora of them already....

just for arguments sake, i wrote the "fuk-you-windows-10" batch file, so that people could read the source, and not encapsulated code.... ;)... it's still here somewhere ;)
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