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Belgian court orders Facebook to stop tracking non-members

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/10/2015 07:09 AM
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That's entirely fine. But, a batch file to delete cookies is what I'm talking about - it makes no sense. Also, encryption, hash files, etc. for verification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


I get what you're saying on the cookies, what I was implying is that someone needs to make a cookie tosser program that exposes when these pricks try to add those spying cookies. Something that basically calls them out to the person running the program in real time.

Imagine getting a popup from your program that says, Facade book wants to spy on you by adding this (tadr)cookie, would you like to allow this?

That shit would be epic.

I think people would love a non politically correct program that simply calls them on all of their spying B.S. cookies and trackers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


Also, why don't you go make such a program?

"someone needs to make a cookie tosser"

Quoting you.
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there is a plethora of them already....

just for arguments sake, i wrote the "fuk-you-windows-10" batch file, so that people could read the source, and not encapsulated code.... ;)... it's still here somewhere ;)
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Yeah, I used it and it helped simplify the deletion process. Thanks
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11/10/2015 07:19 AM
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Thanks for posting. I live in Belgium and don't have a FB account but I sometimes click on FB links. It's hard to avoid these days as most schools and companies use it to share news. I do delete cookies on a regular basis and was wondering if that also gets rid of this special FB cookie. Or is it different from "normal" cookies in any way? Does anybody here know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70768646

My pleasure! hf
It would be refreshing if my country would follow Belgium's lead!
They (fb) will get a huge daily fine if they don't comply!

The reporter who gave an opinion above, seems to think clearing cookies probably will not do the trick. It is more like malware...with a keystroke logger, to boot.

This would certainly explain how leaders like Merkel, have allowed what has happened in the ransack of their countries....blackmail.

I can imagine her face if some porn got planted on her...she would be appalled, and afraid of what others would think, IMHO!

This has been going on for 5 years before being busted by your country!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Right, so if I understand correctly, it's too late for me anyway as their spying malware supercookie is firmly lodged in my harddrive and I now need to reformat it?
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11/10/2015 07:26 AM
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I get what you're saying on the cookies, what I was implying is that someone needs to make a cookie tosser program that exposes when these pricks try to add those spying cookies. Something that basically calls them out to the person running the program in real time.

Imagine getting a popup from your program that says, Facade book wants to spy on you by adding this (tadr)cookie, would you like to allow this?

That shit would be epic.

I think people would love a non politically correct program that simply calls them on all of their spying B.S. cookies and trackers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769047


Also, why don't you go make such a program?

"someone needs to make a cookie tosser"

Quoting you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


there is a plethora of them already....

just for arguments sake, i wrote the "fuk-you-windows-10" batch file, so that people could read the source, and not encapsulated code.... ;)... it's still here somewhere ;)
 Quoting: Citizenperth


We know. Learn how to format your HD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30372218


That datr cookie probably can deepread the data that was there before formatting.

And probably all harddrives that are newer than 10 years have that datr cookie lurking permanently in the boot sector.

It's just the way it is. The control matrix is much deeper than you have ever imagined.
The Wrath is going to be Endless
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11/10/2015 07:50 AM
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This is how I got rid of all facebook cookies including datr

Go to facebook, right click the page, choose view info and a box will pop up. Go to security tab, click view cookies then click delete all.

I am never am never clicking a facebook link again...
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11/10/2015 11:20 AM
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I will be back in the morning to

bump

this for those not seen....

unless I'm banned... peace
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Tree of Life  (OP)

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11/10/2015 11:41 AM
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Thanks for all the tips on how to purge the Facecrook malware cookie!

It seems, however, that perhaps I did not present the scariest of implications to my audience very well...no one seems to be picking up on it.

It is what can be PUT ONTO MY MACHINE that is the issue with me!

Like most of you, I am not a criminal person, and the NSA is going to be more excited watching paint dry than spying off my computer..

I object to it of course, on principles alone...
but controlling people, especially society's decision-makers, by blackmailing them with data placed on their device is the real issue here...

Like a choke-chain for politicians and judges!!
Think of the many times a court decision is reversed suddenly...
Obummercare, for example....there are many more!

Last Edited by Tree of Life on 11/10/2015 11:45 AM
"All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce
Tree of Life  (OP)

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11/10/2015 11:53 AM
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Thanks for posting. I live in Belgium and don't have a FB account but I sometimes click on FB links. It's hard to avoid these days as most schools and companies use it to share news. I do delete cookies on a regular basis and was wondering if that also gets rid of this special FB cookie. Or is it different from "normal" cookies in any way? Does anybody here know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70768646

My pleasure! hf
It would be refreshing if my country would follow Belgium's lead!
They (fb) will get a huge daily fine if they don't comply!

The reporter who gave an opinion above, seems to think clearing cookies probably will not do the trick. It is more like malware...with a keystroke logger, to boot.

This would certainly explain how leaders like Merkel, have allowed what has happened in the ransack of their countries....blackmail.

I can imagine her face if some porn got planted on her...she would be appalled, and afraid of what others would think, IMHO!

This has been going on for 5 years before being busted by your country!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Right, so if I understand correctly, it's too late for me anyway as their spying malware supercookie is firmly lodged in my harddrive and I now need to reformat it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70769690


Hello Belgium! hf
I am not sure the answer here, and will look into the many suggestions about how to rid my machine of datr.

A complete wipe of your machine is what the reporter in question suggests, yes...

I will stick with a more low-tech approach, too. No built in mics or cameras, stay away from java and flash...dial-up, and xp....yup, fully retro.

Someone told me a speaker on your computer can be used as a microphone, so I keep it muted. I can only hope this sacrifice on my part is worth keeping the spying bastards at bay....
They really do not need to know what color panties I wear!!!
"All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce
Anonymous Coward
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11/10/2015 04:47 PM
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Thanks for all the tips on how to purge the Facecrook malware cookie!

It seems, however, that perhaps I did not present the scariest of implications to my audience very well...no one seems to be picking up on it.

It is what can be PUT ONTO MY MACHINE that is the issue with me!

Like most of you, I am not a criminal person, and the NSA is going to be more excited watching paint dry than spying off my computer..

I object to it of course, on principles alone...
but controlling people, especially society's decision-makers, by blackmailing them with data placed on their device is the real issue here...

Like a choke-chain for politicians and judges!!
Think of the many times a court decision is reversed suddenly...
Obummercare, for example....there are many more!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Many sane and conscious people would agree with you completely. Our lives are not our own without privacy and the nanny state has got to go. They can't even manage themselves properly, so why do they want to micro manage people who are actually more intelligent than them?

Is it because they want to steal proprietary information shared between the creators? Possibly so.

Is it because they want to find the corrupt in society and hire them? Possibly so. Seems like that is all they hire these days. Keep the ones with dirt, they're easier to control.

Just my two cents.
Tree of Life  (OP)

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11/10/2015 10:34 PM
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Thanks for all the tips on how to purge the Facecrook malware cookie!

It seems, however, that perhaps I did not present the scariest of implications to my audience very well...no one seems to be picking up on it.

It is what can be PUT ONTO MY MACHINE that is the issue with me!

Like most of you, I am not a criminal person, and the NSA is going to be more excited watching paint dry than spying off my computer..

I object to it of course, on principles alone...
but controlling people, especially society's decision-makers, by blackmailing them with data placed on their device is the real issue here...

Like a choke-chain for politicians and judges!!
Think of the many times a court decision is reversed suddenly...
Obummercare, for example....there are many more!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Many sane and conscious people would agree with you completely. Our lives are not our own without privacy and the nanny state has got to go. They can't even manage themselves properly, so why do they want to micro manage people who are actually more intelligent than them?

Is it because they want to steal proprietary information shared between the creators? Possibly so.

Is it because they want to find the corrupt in society and hire them? Possibly so. Seems like that is all they hire these days. Keep the ones with dirt, they're easier to control.

Just my two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59772233

Thanks for your thoughts! It showcases why I like these forums...thinkers like you!

I had not considered that the powers may be looking for the naturally corrupt in our society as their star players! A very good observation of the cloth our current leaders are cut from...

In any case, it would be a hard fight for a public person to deny a frame-up of this kind...and this may also push them over the edge into the world of corruption.
"All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce
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11/10/2015 10:45 PM
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they shouldn't be tracking their members either..what a sack of shit all the web and tech companies are..its all just turned to absolute shit
Anonymous Coward
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11/10/2015 11:34 PM
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Re: Belgian court orders Facebook to stop tracking non-members
Thanks for all the tips on how to purge the Facecrook malware cookie!

It seems, however, that perhaps I did not present the scariest of implications to my audience very well...no one seems to be picking up on it.

It is what can be PUT ONTO MY MACHINE that is the issue with me!

Like most of you, I am not a criminal person, and the NSA is going to be more excited watching paint dry than spying off my computer..

I object to it of course, on principles alone...
but controlling people, especially society's decision-makers, by blackmailing them with data placed on their device is the real issue here...

Like a choke-chain for politicians and judges!!
Think of the many times a court decision is reversed suddenly...
Obummercare, for example....there are many more!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Many sane and conscious people would agree with you completely. Our lives are not our own without privacy and the nanny state has got to go. They can't even manage themselves properly, so why do they want to micro manage people who are actually more intelligent than them?

Is it because they want to steal proprietary information shared between the creators? Possibly so.

Is it because they want to find the corrupt in society and hire them? Possibly so. Seems like that is all they hire these days. Keep the ones with dirt, they're easier to control.

Just my two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59772233

Thanks for your thoughts! It showcases why I like these forums...thinkers like you!

I had not considered that the powers may be looking for the naturally corrupt in our society as their star players! A very good observation of the cloth our current leaders are cut from...

In any case, it would be a hard fight for a public person to deny a frame-up of this kind...and this may also push them over the edge into the world of corruption.
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Yeah, all of the people in office have some dirty laundry, but some have deep dark secrets and when those secrets are about to be exposed, they will do anythingto prevent it.

How many people did during the Clintons W.H. run?

All accidents and suicides, yeah.... about that.

The MOB is now the OFFICE.
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11/11/2015 12:27 AM
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11/11/2015 06:39 PM
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Thanks for all the tips on how to purge the Facecrook malware cookie!

It seems, however, that perhaps I did not present the scariest of implications to my audience very well...no one seems to be picking up on it.

It is what can be PUT ONTO MY MACHINE that is the issue with me!

Like most of you, I am not a criminal person, and the NSA is going to be more excited watching paint dry than spying off my computer..

I object to it of course, on principles alone...
but controlling people, especially society's decision-makers, by blackmailing them with data placed on their device is the real issue here...

Like a choke-chain for politicians and judges!!
Think of the many times a court decision is reversed suddenly...
Obummercare, for example....there are many more!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Many sane and conscious people would agree with you completely. Our lives are not our own without privacy and the nanny state has got to go. They can't even manage themselves properly, so why do they want to micro manage people who are actually more intelligent than them?

Is it because they want to steal proprietary information shared between the creators? Possibly so.

Is it because they want to find the corrupt in society and hire them? Possibly so. Seems like that is all they hire these days. Keep the ones with dirt, they're easier to control.

Just my two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59772233

Thanks for your thoughts! It showcases why I like these forums...thinkers like you!

I had not considered that the powers may be looking for the naturally corrupt in our society as their star players! A very good observation of the cloth our current leaders are cut from...

In any case, it would be a hard fight for a public person to deny a frame-up of this kind...and this may also push them over the edge into the world of corruption.
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Yes, that's a very good point!
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Belgian court orders Facebook to stop collecting data on citizens, threatens fines of up to $125mn
Published time: 16 Feb, 2018 16:21

A Belgian court has ordered Facebook to stop collecting data about the country's citizens, and to delete information previously gathered. It threatened to fine the social network €250,000 a day if it fails to comply.
In its ruling, the court determined that Facebook does not adequately inform users that it is collecting information. “Facebook informs us insufficiently about gathering information about us, the kind of data it collects, what it does with that data and how long it stores it," the court said, determining the social network had broken privacy laws. “It also does not gain our consent to collect and store all this information.”

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The court also noted that Facebook uses various methods to track the online behavior of people who aren’t members of the website, by placing cookies and invisible pixels on third-party sites.

If Facebook fails to comply with the court’s judgment, it will be fined €250,000 (US$311,232) per day, with a cap of €100 million.

The case came after the Privacy Commission watchdog filed a case against Facebook in June 2015. At the time, the social network said it was confident there was no merit in the case, calling the watchdog’s decision to take it to court “theatrical.”

Facebook previously said it was only subject to laws in Ireland, the site of its European headquarters. It also described cookies as being industry standard, stressing that internet users had the option to opt out.

The Friday ruling comes after Spain’s data protection watchdog fined Facebook €1.2mn in September, also saying the social network breached laws designed to protect people’s information and confidentiality. In December 2016, the European Union fined Facebook €110 million after finding it guilty of providing misleading information before winning approval to buy the messaging app WhatsApp in 2014.
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Thank you, Midnight Oil, for this update!

Facebook loses!!!!

A ray of hope!
"All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce
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02/16/2018 12:22 PM
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It can't track you if you clear your cookies, right?
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02/16/2018 12:24 PM
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Why can't we get our courts to do this as well?





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