Are Americans even capable of minding their own business?

"It's obviously willing to put up with oppression, innocent death, and social injustice.

Any American that sees a problem, but does nothing is guilty in the eyes of God."

this applies to muslims also, right IG? the detestable murderer of the innocent is damned for all eternity, correct?
OK?? OK!!

What percentage of Americans actually believe the propaganda? Anybody know?

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it's the zionist an joo know IT!

they r paranoid schizos joo sea?

Here's the problem.

This thread is about the IN-ability of Americans to "mind there own business".

And what I said above was to an AMERICAN citizen, in reference to an AMERICAN problem, right?

So that would be me telling that poster that as an AMERICAN that sees an AMERICAN problem, that he/she is obligated to not ignore that problem.

AMERICA is an AMERICAN problem.

So what's the problem here?

And yes.

Muslim problems ARE Muslim problems, and the steps taken to resolve them can and will be taken by Muslims.

I have never stated that Muslims are without problems, are are even without fault, as they clearly are in so many areas.

And what makes you think that Muslims all around the world aren't trying to solve these problems?

It would help if America and Israel would back off of the rhetoric and military invasions for a bit though.

Hard to work on a militancy problems when these two countries are taking actions that make more militants, quicker than those who aren't militant can hope to handle.

But obstensibly, these are Islamic problems, right?

I wouldn't tell an American that they were responsible for cleaning up the mess in Iraq, right?

Yet they felt it was there place to do it in Iraq?



That is what were calling that war right now, aren't we?

Liberation?

Or has it changed again?

So hard to keep up with the lies...



So here's the deal.

I will do everything in my power as an individual to help in Darfur, or any other place where Islamic people may have gone astray. I will do this as a fellow Muslim, to help my brothers.

And you, do everything you can do to help America, as an American.

Or come help out in Dafur, if it is such a wrong situation than I'm sure that many people would welcome it.

Would America use it's considerable force to actually do the right thing than it could be a great force for good in this world.

For example...

When America invaded Afganistan, I didn't shed too many tears, and many Muslims I know as well were perhaps even a bit relived that a change for the better might happen there...

But those good intentions soured quickly when the world agenda started to look a little different then the one that was force fed to us through the media, you know?

And then Iraq.

Just wrong.

Now threatening Iran and Syria?

Clear agenda.

People who had NOTHING to do with 9/11, and didn't attack you, and never planned to.

There was no genocide in Iraq, or Iran, or Syria...

If America cares so much about Islamic issues then why don't they pull out of Iraq, and stop threatening, and come help moderate Muslims clean up in Africa.

Stop wasting our time and resources in fighting you out of our countries, and perhaps we can see some results.

and the global problem is
the virus trying to take it over!

Joo no?

What BS! There are NOT "spy cameras" on every corner! There ARE TRAFFIC CAMERAS. And the spy cameras that bark orders are a very rare. There are barking sky cameras in only ONE AREA IN ONE POVERTY-STRICKEN CITY in Northern England!

The Brits don't "love it" and we don't like being told what to do as we are NON-CONFORMISTS, FREE THINKERS and HATE AUTHORITY as psychological studies have shown... and we are damn well-read and educated!

GWB would NEVER in a million years be elected in the UK because he is dumber than a rock. ONLY in the US could GWB be "elected" President.

Friend, you are speaking complete shite.

You're kidding right!!

There are cameras that shout orders to people?

Really?

hey towelhead terrorist, you can keep blabbering on and on until we bomb your village in kandahar back to the stone age...

Until Muslims take their problems to New York City and kill 3,000 Americans....

Then we make Muslim problems OUR problems.

Cause, I mean let's admit it, you guys suck at just about everything. Your women are hairy, your men are desperate and ready to kill themselves because of your hairy women, and all you fuckheads are sitting on a mountain of oil that let's you fund your insanity, so somebody's gotta step in.

Just admit you're a terrorist, looking to recruit, Okay?

:hitler:



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I love people who call you dumb when you don't agree with them.

It's quite a devastating rhetorical point.

I can see you've won a lot of debates, haven't you?

For those of you that are reading Retardo's gems, this is one of the reasons we Americans don't particularly care if we fall out of the top 10 in the World Popularity Contest.

Because we could quite honestly give a fuck less.

We'll do what we want, elect who we want, and ignore you when you call us dumb because you don't like it.

Because, essentially, there's really nothing else you can do. You're from a puny country that's never done anything of substance, namecalling is all you're reduced to.

Only one talking camera! I expect the bastard to be hit with a cricket bat anytime soon by an angry hooligan on a pissed night out.

I bet it has experienced the swivel a million times by now.

DUH! Everybody knows that Muslims has nothing to do with 9/11. It was Israel and the duel citizenship Israelis in the American Government (PNAC). Grow a brain will ya? :history:

"distinguish between corrupt politicians and foreign policy, and the 300 million people who live here"
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are you one of those gold-cadillac muslims?....consumerist shit parked outside the kuwati palace-bank with the 50-foot face of george-1st on the side?

You're so far off the mark it isn't even funny.

The leadership of the US is doing, for the most part, exactly what the people of America want them to do.

That's only part of the equation, but it is the most important part.

All of these wars, and the brutal enslavement and murder of people in Central/South Amerian and in Asia and Central Asia are driven by the American people.

If Americans demanded fuel efficient vehicles that did not produce C02 emissions and refused to purchase anything else, they would have them, but they don't demand them.

If Americans demanded that their planning commissions at the local, county and state level planned communities in such a way that all amenities, schools, markets, entertainment and the like were within walking/biking distance, they would have them, but they don't demand them.

If Americans demanded efficient mass transit systems and hi-tech long distance transportation, like high speed trains etc, they would have them, but they don't demand them.

In order to keep Americans supplied with an abundant supply of cheap oil for the cars, Americans will have to continue murdering people for the next century. Muslims are easy to murder because, well, their different and Americans have always feared that which is different.

Once Americans murder all the Muslims and take all their oil, Latinos will be the new boogerman, or perhaps Africans will be the new boogerman as the US invades those countries to take their oil.

And not just oil, but all natural resources that American corporations can steal from those countries while paying slave wages but no taxes, then selling the practically free natural resources to others to make commerical goods for Americans so that they can have their Wall*Marts stocked to the ceiling with useless crap and Americans can line the pockets of the wealthy with ever more money than one could possibly spend in a 1,000 life-times.

No one in either political party wants to let the American people down and crush their dreams of oil-a-plenty and cheap consumer goods.

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Hey, you saindnigras ruled for a while. Now its America's turn at the Empire's head. Check this, you could emigrate to America, and be an American yourself! Then you could be one of the best people on Earth. You cant beat us, so join us, or die.

OCTOBER SURPRISE FOR YOU TOO ISLAMIC GUY

"As far as I'm concerned, we should butt out of everybody else business, make it damn hard for anyone to get in this country, and send the hostile foreign nationals back to their own countries."


Great, I hope you do, and on the same note we'll demand ALL debts to be repaid in full and right now, say buh-bye to your $$. Then we should have naval blokkade so no american can leave their country.

Europe is being destroyed by your Muslim bullshit. Americans just see you more for what you are. Europe will wake up, one day. Maybe after every Swedish girl is raped.

Oh, you are such a lying sack of shit, lol. This is from 1999, and it's WAY worse now. The Brits are the biggest heard of sheep on the planet.

By BBC News Online's Jonathan Duffy
Whatever your feelings about privacy, no one cannot afford to be camera shy in modern-day Britain.

Per capita there are more surveillance cameras in the UK than any other country in the world - more than a million according to one recent estimate.

The average city dweller can expect to be captured on film every five minutes. Almost 500,000 low budget CCTV kits have been bought in the last three years.

At this rate, by 2015 there will be no such thing as a secret place in our city centres, according to Simon Davies, of the pressure group Privacy International.

Yet opposition of this type seems to have been increasingly pushed to the margins. When CCTV began to gather pace at the beginning of the 1990s, hostility was common place. The principle objection was that it would ceaselessly erode civil liberties.



Jill Dando's last movements were caught on CCTV
The prospect of "peeping toms" using the technology to "snoop" on individuals brought to mind the Orwellian nightmare of "Big Brother".

Now, as the 50th anniversary looms of the publication of George Orwell's 1984- the book which envisaged a future where everyone would be continuously monitored - "spy" cameras are widely accepted as part of everyday life.

Their role in helping to fight crime has doubtless endeared us to this "necessary evil".

Surveillance camera images featured prominently in the 1993 murder of toddler James Bulger. When pictures of him being led away by two youngsters in 1993 were shown on BBC's Crimewatch, viewers identified the boys as Jon Venables and Robert Thompson.

The boys were arrested and later convicted of the murder.

Government millions

More recently, police have used surveillance images in their efforts to catch the Brixton nail bomber and the killer of BBC presenter Jill Dando.

Naturally, the police and Home Office are among CCTV's keenest supporters. Since 1995 the Home Office has spent £45m on widening the network of cameras across Britain.



James Bulger being led away to his death
In March, Home Secretary Jack Straw pledged a further £170m for up to 20,000 more CCTV systems.

The success of video surveillance means it is no longer limited to town centres. Cameras are increasingly being used to survey residential areas, schools, parks, and hospitals. Elsewhere, they can be found on buses, in train stations, night clubs and shops.

Cameras are smaller and more powerful than ever. Some can zoom in on a watch face from 100 yards while new software, currently being tested by Newham Council, can match faces caught on CCTV to those of known criminals.

Flying cameras?

In future a small video camera, the size of a flying insect, might fly into a room to monitor what is going on inside.

But one person's surveillance camera is another's spy lens and several cases have revealed the technology is open to abuse.

In 1996, a video called Caught in the Act prompted outrage when it hit the shops. The film was a compilation of CCTV material showing people in a variety of intimate situations.



Part of the furniture - cameras are now common indoors
In the same year an Essex man complained after images of his attempted suicide were caught on surveillance camera and broadcast on national television.

There is also the case of one CCTV operator in Glamorgan who was convicted of more than 200 obscenity charges after using cameras to spy on women and then make obscene phone calls to them from the control room.

To date there has been no direct legislation governing the use of CCTV in the UK. However, this is set to change with the Data Protection Act 1998, which is due to be enforced in June.

This will provide that images of a person have the same protection as written information about them. It should ensure that tapes are only used for crime prevention.

However, watching the watchers is a full-time job in itself and inevitably operators will have to be trusted to obey the laws.

And if one could always rely on trust, there would hardly be a need for CCTV in the first place.

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

I could pull up tons more but I'm too tired. Anyway, we all know you live in Orwell land.

Islamic Guy,
You speak the truth, and I totally agree with what you are saying.

US Americans have a world wide reputation for being arrogant and supremacist, for being ignorant racist and ethnocentric, for bullying, and for interfering in every region of the world that they hope to exploit in some way.

Are Americans even capable of minding their own business?

............NO.

Americans are.

Their gummint isn't. This is just a symptom of The Fall of Empire.

Now if the rest of you can talk your gummints into ignoring the Amerikun gummint, you're on to something.

Just do it.

typical example of a dumbfuck "murkan" telling another american that he's from a puny country. lol no wonder were in trouble, some of us can't even master reading cromprehension.

Here's your chance American citizens:

THE ANTI-WAR PRO-PEACE CANDIDATES

Here is a list of some of the many candidates running this fall who are opposed to the US wars. They come from all parties and varied backgrounds, but the one common factor that brings them to this list is that they publicly speak out against the war.
The defeat of Joseph Lieberman has proven that this next election will be a referendum about the war, and the manner in which Republicans are funding Lieberman's campaign even against a GOP opponent proves that the old Republican versus Democrat model is no longer a meaningful factor, if indeed it ever really was. The election is the pro-war and pro-Israel crowd against the rest of us.
So, here is the list. Please feel free to suggest that other candidates be added. Please do NOT send me emails complaining about how these candidates stand on unrelated issues. It is a trick of the political machine to divide up the voters with manufactured issues to prevent a concensus of opinion forming on anything critical. If you are tricked into screaming about gay marriage, or flag burning, or immigration, then you won't be able to get together in a united voice to demand the war be ended and our children brought home to us safely.
There is only one real issue this November, ending the war. Here are the people who say they will do it, sorted by state.

Alaska
Diane Benson

Arizona
Barry Hess
David Nolan
Jeff Latas

California
Philip Berg
Byron De Lear
Peter Thottam
Dr. Ernie Lippe

Colorado
Bert Sargent
Dave Chandler
J. A. Calhoun

Connecticut
Phil Maymin
Richard Duffee
Daniel Sumrall
Ralph Ferrucci
Ned Lamont
Diane Farrell

Delaware
Michael Berg

Florida
Brian Moore
Samm Simpson
Frank J. Gonzalez
Bob Bowman

Hawaii
Dan Akaka

Idaho
Ted Dunlap

Illinois
Bill Scheurer

Indiana
David Sanders
Steve Osborn

Iowa
Dave Loebsack

Louisiana
Stacey Tallitsch

Maine
Dexter Kamilewicz
Jean Hay Bright

Maryland
Barry Kissin
Kevin Zeese

Michigan
Candace Caveny
David Sole
Ken Mathenia
David Newland
Aaron Stuttman
Scotty Boman
Allitta Hren

Minnesota
Michael Cavlan
Keith Ellison

Missouri
Frank Gilmour

Nevada
Jack Carter

New Hampshire
Mary Maxwell

New Jersey
Carol Gay

New York
Howie Hawkins
Jessica Flagg
Bob Johnson
Jonathan Tasini
Jeff Russell
Eric Massa
Jack Davis
John Hall
John Clifton

North Carolina
Bill Glass

Ohio
Charles Sanders
Dennis Kucinich
Kim Condit Jr.

Pennsylvania
John Murphy
Carl Romanelli
Titus North

Rhode Island
Carl Sheeler
Rod Driver

South Carolina
Dr. John Cobin

Tennessee
Kathleen Culver
Chris Lugo

Texas
Richard Forsythe, Jr.
Michael Badnarik
John Hawley
Ron Paul
James Wright
Bob Smither
James Strohm
Gardner Osborne
James R. (Bob) Thompson
Robert M. Pritchett
Christopher Claytor

Vermont
Craig Hill
Dennis Morrisseau

Virginia
Al Weed
Shawn O'Donnell
Andrew Hurst
Jim Webb
Bill Wood

Washington
Bruce Guthrie
Aaron Dixon
Hong Trang

Wisconsin
Rae Vogeler

[link to www.whatreallyhappened.com]

If and when the muslims in western China become an insurgency, China will make what they did in Tibet look like a day at the beach.

That the anti-religious government even allows them to practice their religion is amazing. Christians and Fulong-gong members are regularly imprisoned in re-education camps. Buddhist temples have been destroyed and monks tortured and killed.

It is only a matter of time before the current Chinese get around to doing the same to the Muslims if they go Jihadist against China.

As for the USA minding its own business, the same could be said of all those Muslims in the world who want to force their religion down the throats of everyone else and kill those who aren't muslims and don't want to be.

No, they enjoy kicking around the vulnerable too much, they have to keep looking for them.

I have no problem with america or the west considering I am a westerner.
It's Bush who I have the problem with.
Bush is such a dumbass I don't know how the american people could have voted him into power. To be honest Bush deserves everything he's got coming to him...

We are, and we have done it. However it didn't work out so swell for us because everytime we have, everyone and everything did stuff like: Create the Taliban and take over a country and build terrorist training facilities and trained those guys to attack us. Pakistan aquires nuclear weapons. NKorea builds all kinds of impliments of destruction. Country after country after country just generaly is up to the shennanigans of either Islamic takeover and build up to attack the USA, or the Non-Islamic build up to attack the USA.

Look at our two latest "hands off" guys, Clinton and Carter. The aftermath of those two administrations mind our own business policies cost us ten times what they saved in cost via cost of clean up. We have learned that when we leave you goofuses alone, you make trouble for us. And although your last statement about everybody being crazy but us is sarcastic and of course not completly true, sadly a lot of it is very true. When you have Islamic takeovers of nations and the ensuing regiemes implimenting laws and decrees and actions like: Making women wear bee keeper suits and killing them if come out of their owners dwellings without permission and escort, chopping off hands and heads and stoning people to death for crimes of ideas or speech, outlawing things like Kites for children and photographs. Making sesions of bizzare ritualistic activities manditory daily for entire countries.

Complete clamp downs of contact with the outside world for whole populations of said contries. Complete control of all media by gov't entities and constant bombardments by that media of the populations of the country proclaiming such mundane rants like, your contry's leader has desended from the heavens to lead you in a glorious mission of creating atomic weapons and giant missiles or to lead you to vanquish the jews from the planet because god told us to, or blowing yourself up to kill these guys is the best thing you could possilbly do and here's a bunch of guys who did it and Lookie here, they get to be on TV now, ain't that sweet? and on and on and on what crazy shit like that and also blatant brainwashing childrens programs geared to creating violenece and chaos against who? Well if it aint the US, it's them Joo dogs.

And that's just for the masses, we also get from contries leaders, not just uttered off the cuff or in private, but in public speeches to their populations or to public mass gatherings of world leaders, completly sane and balanced statements like: The US president is the Devil himself and I can smell the sulfur from his Evil preesense, Other countries should be wiped off the map, and talk to us or we will fire nuclear missiles at you.

And you think that these dangerous nuts should be trusted and left alone? I got news for you, these very crazy statements come from people that have armies at their disposal, with real missiles that kill in large numbers and Armed warcraft of air land and sea. And miriads of bombs and all sorts of modern weapons and they use their countries resources to build and buy more and they are becoming growingly more powerfull, exponentialy so and you think we should leave them alone to buy and build more? When their track record and in fact stated desire is to either blow up or destroy us? or the rest of the sane world?

Yeah, sounds like a good plan, if those tards weren't in charge of countries and were just regular people put into the population, odds are they would be institutionalized for their own safety and the safety of society. If some guy was in a padded room saying,"I just saw the Devil....OMG...he was right here, I can smell the sulfur....*sniff, sniff* Smell it? can you smell it?" Sure Hugo, I saw him, take your meds, be a good boy now Hugo, good all gone, make you feel better, "He was right here, the Devil, smell him? read this book, it'll tell you all about it, great book" Ok hugo, I'm sure it's a great book, we'll see you later and you'll come out and play scrabble with the ladies outside, "Ooooh, scabble good, I win when I make my friends name, President Aloeverabadabingbongdon, 700 point score, I win" Sure Hugo, everybody's a President here, everybody wins.

It would be funny if that same crazy fucker didn't just buy like 30 war planes and a half million rifles for his playtime army, and the even more crazy fucker in the next room didn't just light off an atomic explosion and then say,"You talk to us now or we shoot nuclear missile at you!" and the in the next room you got guys that are saying their gonna wipe these other guys off the planet and they all have real life missiles and real life armies of real life soldiers that actualy attack and kill people in real life.

And who thinks it's a good idea to leave these nuts alone with real life impliments of war??? Fuck, they should'nt be allowed to play with metal spoons, much less armies and countries.