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Janeys Terror Updates:Thursday - Geneva terror threat p1174

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sorry but Putin isn't the "good" guy---regardless of what the galactic federation of derp tells you.

Russia has an end game in the ME, as he certainly isn't there out of his great love of Assad.
 Quoting: Baloney


Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
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if the 70% was real then the war would already be over in Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


The war would/should have been over long ago, but Turkey,Jordan and the entity opened their borders to a massive continues influx of foreign backed Jihadists armed with all the latest weaponry.
 Quoting: firinne


I donít really, and agree with you on that one.
I just donít like seeing people get conned, not even by amateurs.

(your already deleted post I mean)
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As an a American I couldn't agree more. And I'm no Putin lover.
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I am a "Putin" and his team lover.. for they are demonstrating morality and ethics to the world who doesn't know what morality and ethics are... even the nice folks don't always know.. don't always understand right from wrong. I would suggest where it is possible for those who know English to sometime WATCH Sergei Lavrov when he is using English before a group with questions and interaction.. the integrity is stunning. Like yesterday when he spoke before a group in Italy at the Mediterranean conference going on there... I do hope that is put up on you tube...See the person in action provides far more detail than does reading.
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Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
 Quoting: firinne


if the 70% was real then the war would already be over in Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


The war would/should have been over long ago, but Turkey,Jordan and the entity opened their borders to a massive continues influx of foreign backed Jihadists armed with all the latest weaponry.
 Quoting: firinne


I donít really, and agree with you on that one.
I just donít like seeing people get conned, not even by amateurs.

(your already deleted post I mean)
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Deleted post ?
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You have totally and completely misunderstood perhaps on purpose what VlAD and others have said...The Russians support the RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO OPPOSE THEIR GOVERNMENT.... and they do provide some air support ONLY if the FSA is in battle against terrorists belonging to ISIS and other terror groups... They do not arm FSA and that has been made very clear ....
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sorry but Putin isn't the "good" guy---regardless of what the galactic federation of derp tells you.

Russia has an end game in the ME, as he certainly isn't there out of his great love of Assad.
 Quoting: Baloney


Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
 Quoting: firinne


And OB has never told the truth in his life, the democratic party smells like old poisoness fish and the repubs lie to to those who elect them to get elected and our every move is recorded by our loving NSA.. So Putin is getting a lot of attention from us Western citizens and voters. Putin is the good guy now until proven otherwise.
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sorry but Putin isn't the "good" guy---regardless of what the galactic federation of derp tells you.

Russia has an end game in the ME, as he certainly isn't there out of his great love of Assad.
 Quoting: Baloney


Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
 Quoting: firinne


if the 70% was real then the war would already be over in Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


The war would/should have been over long ago, but Turkey,Jordan and the entity opened their borders to a massive continues influx of foreign backed Jihadists armed with all the latest weaponry.
 Quoting: firinne


the thing is one can arm Daesh to the teeth but Daesh has "only" 80.000 troops in a country of 18.000.000 (2014) people and controls 70% of that country. Why doesn't assad arm if only 10% of that people then the war would be over in 4-5 months. Something is just not right...
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You have totally and completely misunderstood perhaps on purpose what VlAD and others have said...The Russians support the RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO OPPOSE THEIR GOVERNMENT.... and they do provide some air support ONLY if the FSA is in battle against terrorists belonging to ISIS and other terror groups... They do not arm FSA and that has been made very clear ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71006300


sorry but Putin isn't the "good" guy---regardless of what the galactic federation of derp tells you.

Russia has an end game in the ME, as he certainly isn't there out of his great love of Assad.
 Quoting: Baloney


Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
 Quoting: firinne


if the 70% was real then the war would already be over in Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


Surely it would be. Actually in 2013 FSA admitted that they are only one month from defeat at best. Immediately after that statement everything went gradient. Saudi Arabi, Qatar and US began with weapon supplies and foreign jihadists started flooding Syria. In 2013 for example Abu Omar al-Shishani entered Syria from Turkey. Very soon after that ISIS popped out in Syria and results we can see now.
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You have totally and completely misunderstood perhaps on purpose what VlAD and others have said...The Russians support the RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO OPPOSE THEIR GOVERNMENT.... and they do provide some air support ONLY if the FSA is in battle against terrorists belonging to ISIS and other terror groups... They do not arm FSA and that has been made very clear ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71006300


sorry but Putin isn't the "good" guy---regardless of what the galactic federation of derp tells you.

Russia has an end game in the ME, as he certainly isn't there out of his great love of Assad.
 Quoting: Baloney


Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
 Quoting: firinne


And OB has never told the truth in his life, the democratic party smells like old poisoness fish and the repubs lie to to those who elect them to get elected and our every move is recorded by our loving NSA.. So Putin is getting a lot of attention from us Western citizens and voters. Putin is the good guy now until proven otherwise.
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OB is just a puppet/scapegoat, whatever way you want to look at it.
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Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
 Quoting: firinne


if the 70% was real then the war would already be over in Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


The war would/should have been over long ago, but Turkey,Jordan and the entity opened their borders to a massive continues influx of foreign backed Jihadists armed with all the latest weaponry.
 Quoting: firinne


the thing is one can arm Daesh to the teeth but Daesh has "only" 80.000 troops in a country of 18.000.000 (2014) people and controls 70% of that country. Why doesn't assad arm if only 10% of that people then the war would be over in 4-5 months. Something is just not right...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


So far, the death toll has been roughly 80k Syrian govt, 80k opposition, and 80k civilians. There are roughly 22 million people from Syria, 15 million now reside in pro govt territory (many in refugee camps) an area roughly 40% of the country that comprises of most of all the main population centres, and Deash does not control 70% of the country as most of this area is desert/no mans land.
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The war would/should have been over long ago, but Turkey,Jordan and the entity opened their borders to a massive continues influx of foreign backed Jihadists armed with all the latest weaponry.
 Quoting: firinne


I donít really, and agree with you on that one.
I just donít like seeing people get conned, not even by amateurs.

(your already deleted post I mean)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62649476


Deleted post ?
 Quoting: firinne


Your answer to the identity of the con artist, Janey/Andrew
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62649476


Not saying an more on this, I made my point, we have bigger fish to fry!
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As an a American I couldn't agree more. And I'm no Putin lover.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71018347


I am a "Putin" and his team lover.. for they are demonstrating morality and ethics to the world who doesn't know what morality and ethics are... even the nice folks don't always know.. don't always understand right from wrong. I would suggest where it is possible for those who know English to sometime WATCH Sergei Lavrov when he is using English before a group with questions and interaction.. the integrity is stunning. Like yesterday when he spoke before a group in Italy at the Mediterranean conference going on there... I do hope that is put up on you tube...See the person in action provides far more detail than does reading.
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Well 70% of the Syrian population support Assad, so in that respect Putin is supporting democracy (whatever that is?) meanwhile the west is backing wahibi death cults in order to create a failed state like Libya and or Balkanise the place. TBH I,m not sure if the west has a plan or if they are just making it up as they go along???

As for Putins endgame, a multipolar world, whats wrong with that ? cool2
 Quoting: firinne


if the 70% was real then the war would already be over in Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


The war would/should have been over long ago, but Turkey,Jordan and the entity opened their borders to a massive continues influx of foreign backed Jihadists armed with all the latest weaponry.
 Quoting: firinne


the thing is one can arm Daesh to the teeth but Daesh has "only" 80.000 troops in a country of 18.000.000 (2014) people and controls 70% of that country. Why doesn't assad arm if only 10% of that people then the war would be over in 4-5 months. Something is just not right...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71017239


Syria had about 17mil residents last year. You have to count in demography (elders, children, invalids and so on). Numbers of residents lef the country and so on.

About 80k fighters has ISIS (maybe more). You have to count in Nusra fighters, different FSA groups, Turkmen islamists etc. Kurds claims there is about 200k ISIS fighters (in Syria AND Iraq).

With all of that and constant support fro terrorists from abroad your calculations are very misleading and they are not even close to the real situation imo.
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Someone needs to be talking about these stolen propane tanks, massive cell phone grabs and other things of curiosity going on in the heartlands. I am concerned that we are about to experience something of major proportions nation wide.
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"we offer them air support ... we support the Syria army helping them with weapons, munitions and materiel ."

What is there to put into context?

It's you Putin cheerleaders that need to examine yourselves and the person you shill for.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


And what's your point exactly? That an Army of a legitimate Government is helped to fight a group of Terrorists that is destroying their country and killing its citizens? It's an illegal takeover by the very one's you are cheering on. But I already know that from the UA thread where you stand. You're definitely on the wrong side.

These are guys your hero's are supplying with weapons and give them air support.
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You Putin cheerleaders have been going on and on about how theres no "moderate opposition" in Syria. Vlad gives the FSA support, and suddenly that's been the plan all along. Go figure.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


You are lying as usually. Since begining Russia clearly said that groups without connection with terrorists can join government forces and fight against islamists and offered those groups support including aerial cover. Proof - article from 24th of October 2015:

[link to www.rt.com (secure)]

But we know, RT is propaganda right?. So another proof: Yahoo News, 24th of October 2015:

[link to news.yahoo.com]

A few days before this meeting with Rojava representatives from PYD started in Moscow.

[link to www.kurdishinfo.com]

PYD is one of the main founders of YPG - Kurdish People's Defense Units. YPG itself has some connections with FSA groups as Liwa Thuwwar al-Raqqa and cooperates with them in fighting IS but YPG itself doesn't wage armed conflict with the Syrian government. So during last weeks Russian airforce covered advance of YPG along Turkish border in the area of Azaz town for example.

It is very clear that you have not enough knowledges to discuss such complicated situation, you are not intelligent enough to understand current events and what is probably the worst - you are even too lazy to read and learn detailed informations from multiple sources as others do. And still you feel competent to comment on this topic regardless your lack of insight to the problem. It makes you look like hod carrier talking about nucleonics. But every village has its idiot so continue please. In current days there is not enough fun.

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NO putin did NOT say that..... You are reading purposeful change of what really was said... its happened often... Putin supports the RIGHT of a civilian Syrian organization to oppose the government.... that is a right of citizens in all countries.... But russia does not send weaponry to them.... they after all are wanting to remove Assad....plus the weaponry goes only to Syrian Arab Republic.. to the legitimate government.
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This is the accurate statement from TASS.

[link to tass.ru]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71006300


LMAO!

From that link, directly from Putin's mouth:

[The operation of Russiaís air group in Syria] "promotes consolidation of efforts of both government troops and the Free Syrian Army." "Now, a number of its units numbering more than 5,000 and the regular forces are conducting an offensive against terrorists in the provinces of Homs, Hama, Aleppo and Raqqah," he said. "Apart from that, we offer them air support, as we support the Syria army helping them with weapons, munitions and materiel."

A statement doesn't get any more direct than that.

I guess Putin suddenly found the moderate opposition in Syria?

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That's because behind all the Shia-Russo "shock n awe 2.0" cosplay....

and despite Obama's ban on Saudis to ship even TOW missiles to the sandal-wearing illiterate rebels (Obama was trying to appease Iran during negotiations, Ayatollahs demanded that as pre-condition)

with Turkey left as the sole supplier to rebels...

well despite all that, despite the shills in this thread making obsessively re-Tweeting "Imminent Victory Parade" style RT/Fars News propaganda ---->

---> in reality things aren't exactly going so well for the uber-genius Fieldmarshall-Admiral-Demigod-Strategist in Kremlin, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (Praise Be Unto Him)

That's why KingShill the phony-proxy loser Kneelb4Zod completely lost his mind last night in an epic rant (TL;DR though it may have been)

Believe me, the peanut gallery mental patients are getting real nervous. When you base your whole worldview on a big lie & bizarre fallacies... eventually that house of cards collapses.

You're witnessing it in this thread

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Bla,bla,bla.....

Whats the debt clock at now cool2

Syrian army has just retaken Homs, and is about to retake rebel held Allepo, whats left Raqqa and some desert ???

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Someone needs to be talking about these stolen propane tanks, massive cell phone grabs and other things of curiosity going on in the heartlands. I am concerned that we are about to experience something of major proportions nation wide.
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Someone needs to be talking about these stolen propane tanks, massive cell phone grabs and other things of curiosity going on in the heartlands. I am concerned that we are about to experience something of major proportions nation wide.
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And what's your point exactly? That an Army of a legitimate Government is helped to fight a group of Terrorists that is destroying their country and killing its citizens? It's an illegal takeover by the very one's you are cheering on. But I already know that from the UA thread where you stand. You're definitely on the wrong side.

These are guys your hero's are supplying with weapons and give them air support.

:daesh airforce:

:daesh protection:
 Quoting: Bes Maat


As an a American I couldn't agree more. And I'm no Putin lover.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71018347


I am a "Putin" and his team lover.. for they are demonstrating morality and ethics to the world who doesn't know what morality and ethics are... even the nice folks don't always know.. don't always understand right from wrong. I would suggest where it is possible for those who know English to sometime WATCH Sergei Lavrov when he is using English before a group with questions and interaction.. the integrity is stunning. Like yesterday when he spoke before a group in Italy at the Mediterranean conference going on there... I do hope that is put up on you tube...See the person in action provides far more detail than does reading.
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this?


 Quoting: devoid


Possibly so.. I am listening to it now... the background is missing from the room it was done in... I missed the first few minutes of the speech.. (I found out HERE it was going on so thanks to whoever posted the linky to the live coverate).... the suit is right.... I hope somebody has also placed the questions asked and commentary afterwards or will place it. Portions of the meeting have appeared on several Russian sites including some from the question period... but only small extracts.
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Losing Janey really pissed me off.

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Internet Explodes With Funny Memes Following Ukrainian Rada Brawl
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LMAO! at the Lion King
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It's pretty funny. Ukranians had parliamentary fights before, as did many other countries.

With Ukraine re-gaining its independence a year ago, and being under siege/sabotage by its bully neighbor, passions naturally will run high. As will dysfunction.

(Incidentally, it makes one appreciate the decorum and class of the US or even its livelier, much older cousin: British Parliament.)

But you know what's NOT funny, tho? Russian Duma. You probably won't be witnessing something like this there. You know why? Because: everybody there is a corrupt, emotionally hollow puppet, terrrified of "embarrassing" their precious Tzar.

Kremlin is basically democratic kabuki theater. Just Rus military is all about PR stunts & cosplay desperately trying to mimic the hated "pindosy" --- same applies to their politics. Constitution, separation of powers, elections... it all exists only on paper, LOL

So at least Ukrainians will fight for their future and love their country. Not their "Dear Leader".