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Message Subject Rapture Harpazo is 40 days into the Day of the Lord.
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Hi OP. You have written an nice post. You may have said this already, so forgive me if I'm bringing up a point you have already addressed. The book of Romans tells us that Israel will experience a hardening of the heart until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Since Daniel makes it clear that the Tribulation is all about Israel's reconciliation with God (i.e, hardness of heart removed), I always made the connection that the rapture would happen when all the fullness comes in...i.e., the rapture is dependent upon a number of people being saved.

How does this gel with what you have written?

Thank you!
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Thanks for asking this question. I like posts like this because it helps me round out something I have neglected to explain.

I believe that the Bible is both a real accurate account (that also has 4-5 notable discrepancies for a reason). When you find a seeming conflict in the scriptures (people love to list these many items) it is because you have to discern whether the verse is speaking of the physical entity or the spiritual entity involved. That explains most of the examples that people love to list and go the "see its wrong, its off, etc". Such people have no spiritual insight and, in their present state, are in no condition to hear the resolution qnd try to understand. So I don't answer them or take the bait of their "challenges" as though they will be the judge when it issue is resolved.

In Galations 4, we see the contract the Jerusalem that is now who is in bondage with her children vs the new Jerusalem that is above which is our mother. There are many contrasts like this in the scriptures.

In this case, the hardening of Israel is talking about is physical Israel since it contrasts with the Gentiles who can be part of the New Jerssalem that is above and be Spritual Jews in that sense.

I have to say all of that to go back to the Joseph of Genesis in Egypt (think world of Gentiles) example. The famine of the 7 years is an allegory for the tribulation period. I can demonstrate that more fully if needed, but for simplicity, it is.

There is an allusion to timing of these events in that story.

Joseph was in prison (Jesus went to the souls in prison after His death) and he told the baker (presented bread from grain not accepted as Cain's sacrifice was not accepted) and the Butler (bears the wine which is the new covenant in Jesus blood or sacrifice of blood as Abels sacrifice was accepted). He said that their fates are sealed "within 3 days". Jesus, at his death, decided between the saved and the lost also.

Notice what happens next. Joseph remains in prison another 2 whole years (think spiritual lull) before he is called before the king. The rules of determining the rules of usage of day come from years of study of the word and they are:

In the allegories, the Lord plays with units like distance or time, but it is the number that matters, not the units.

There are allegories and parables that point to the proper 1,000 year millennial timeframe in which the end times will come – for these allegories – 1 Day = 1,000 years (Ps 90:10, 2 Pet 3:8)

There are other allegories and parables which point to the timeframe of events within the 1,000 year period. For these, 1 Day = 1 Time = 1 Year.

With these three rules understood, I can list 20-30 stories in the bible that all have the same timing.

At the intersection of the 7th millennial day from Adam and the 3rd millennial day from Jesus (the 2nd Adam 1 Cor 15:45-47), at the dawning of that day, the end times will occur.

Joseph then prescribes 7 years of plenty and then 7 years of famine (tribulation period) That's around 14 years at the start of the 3rd day/7th day.

Think about it, it is about where we are now. I have multiple stories in the Word where the timing was hidden in plain sight, but not unlocked until recent years. The battle of Jericho has the full story of time shown in it for example.

Now, in the story of Joseph, we see the Israelites in famine for 2 years before they start going to Egypt (think Gentiles and specifically those Gentiles who know their God).

My best estimate is that you will see this transition start around 2 years into the tribulation period. The remnant of the elect among the physical Jews will have the veil lifted (2 Cor 3) and will see who their real Messiah is. But not all Israel will be saved. God told Abraham that though his descendants would be numbered as the sand on the beaches or the stars of heaven only a remnant will be saved.

That was long. I hope that was helpful.
 
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