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Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.

 
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Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
My dentist (more so my dentist assistant) are clearly getting upset with my flat out refusal to get the "bite wings" I've been with them for years now - they know my teeth, I'm pretty good with my oral hygiene but they always want to take those friggin' X-Rays. What gives?
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sometimes i wonder why we need dental cleanings?
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
The amount of radiation in an x-ray is trivial and not worth worrying about. If you ever go flying you probably get exposed to as much radiation during one flight.
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Could "plaque build up" be a result of bad diet???
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The amount of radiation in an x-ray is trivial and not worth worrying about. If you ever go flying you probably get exposed to as much radiation during one flight.
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Never fly - mostly just walk. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
My dentist (more so my dentist assistant) are clearly getting upset with my flat out refusal to get the "bite wings" I've been with them for years now - they know my teeth, I'm pretty good with my oral hygiene but they always want to take those friggin' X-Rays. What gives?
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they can charge your insurance once a year for them.. easy money.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
I've not been to a dentist in 17 years. And I'm British. No kidding. And I hardly ever brush my teeth.
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Yeah, helps to pay for their fancy Koi pond - never mind the health risk to me.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
Look, you should be more worried about why they are pushing them on you as x-rays are an added cost, at least at my dentist. You don't need them, providing you floss regularly and brush and stuff.

I actually have an issue with a molar and asked for x-ray just for that side of mouth, this was probably 2 years ago. They didn't even see anything wrong in the x-ray, I can't say I did either as it looked healthy like all the rest. But When I floss that section it will shred the floss up quickly, where nowhere else in my mouth does that happen. I'll be going to the dentist and get it taken care of soon, that tooth can sometimes taste bad even with regular upkeep.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
My dentist (more so my dentist assistant) are clearly getting upset with my flat out refusal to get the "bite wings" I've been with them for years now - they know my teeth, I'm pretty good with my oral hygiene but they always want to take those friggin' X-Rays. What gives?
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they can charge your insurance once a year for them.. easy money.
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^this
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I've not been to a dentist in 17 years. And I'm British. No kidding. And I hardly ever brush my teeth.
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I'm sorry, truly not trying to be rude,but you really should. If not for you, for the people around you.
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Good on you op...I have had 6 teeth removed in 7 years and each time I said no x ray and I want the old novacaine without epinephrine(messes with my heart). Each time they honored my request but weren't happy about it. I think it's all part of the cancer giving death care system that dentists are in on too. Make em sick with too many x-rays/ drugs...and your doctor friends get to make bank as well.
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Good on you op...I have had 6 teeth removed in 7 years and each time I said no x ray and I want the old novacaine without epinephrine(messes with my heart). Each time they honored my request but weren't happy about it. I think it's all part of the cancer giving death care system that dentists are in on too. Make em sick with too many x-rays/ drugs...and your doctor friends get to make bank as well.
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Thanks Jack. I'm just tired of hearing the "Airplane Ride" story. It's getting old.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
My dentist (more so my dentist assistant) are clearly getting upset with my flat out refusal to get the "bite wings" I've been with them for years now - they know my teeth, I'm pretty good with my oral hygiene but they always want to take those friggin' X-Rays. What gives?
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Because they bill your insurance.

$$$
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
Just tell them you were exposed to a massive dose of radiation (due to some accident, or equipment failure, or cancer treatment, etc) and, since exposure is cumulative, have been advised to limit future exposure.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
Not everything is about money. It sometimes is about consistent quality of care, or the standard of care. A dentist cannot inspect all areas of your teeth where decay or bone loss can begin without dental imaging. A dentist is severely limited on evaluating the bone for pathologies, too.

There comes a point where the dentist becomes negligent in his examination if he continues to allow you to bypass the dental imaging "bitewings." That is HIS or HER problem. If he misses something, and you are litigious, and you sue him, then it can mean that he not only will lose his malpractice insurance coverage he also may lose his state dental license. State Dental Boards insist on accurate dental records and dental images are part of that process.

So, sure, get on here and say it is all about the money. In my practice, dental images makes up 10.3% of my revenue. Substantial? Yes. All about the money? No. About protecting my practice for the future by keeping the State Board off my ass? You bet. Making sure that my patients know what is going on? Absolutely.

For the record, I have saved the lives of no less than 4 people by finding oral pathology with dental imaging. So roll the dice, save some money, tempt fate. It's your body. But don't be surprised if your dentist tells you to go somewhere else. They have too much to lose and it isn't the piddly amount they are collecting for their expertise. It is their livelihood and the ability to ensure that they can continue doing what they invested their lives into.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
I also refuse, and did for my kids. They wantedd X-rays of baby teeth for Christ's sake.

I still refuse for myself, and they hate it. If it's so "negligible", stop hiding in the other room to press the button!
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
I also refuse, and did for my kids. They wantedd X-rays of baby teeth for Christ's sake.

I still refuse for myself, and they hate it. If it's so "negligible", stop hiding in the other room to press the button!
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You do realize that radiation effects are cumulative, don't you? Negligible times 4-8 times/day, 200 days/year = not negligible.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
My dentist (more so my dentist assistant) are clearly getting upset with my flat out refusal to get the "bite wings" I've been with them for years now - they know my teeth, I'm pretty good with my oral hygiene but they always want to take those friggin' X-Rays. What gives?
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It shows infections below the gum line and cavities between teeth that are at, or below the gum line. OP will not be able to get a full, comprehensive dental exam until he/she allows xrays. There are some things that can be going on in your mouth that the dentist can't see, no matter how thoroughly they try. Some of those things can cause OP big problems and big $ in the future if they're not caught early. In the old days, xray radiation was worth worrying about. With the newer technologies out now though, the radiation exposure levels are trivial.
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As a former dental assistant, I can tell you that the xrays will help them detect cavities. Your teeth don't just stay in suspended animation. They look on the xray to see where they might be decay, or bone loss. The xray is very minimal radiation if that is what you are worried about. They also use the lead vest. You are safe.
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Not everything is about money. It sometimes is about consistent quality of care, or the standard of care. A dentist cannot inspect all areas of your teeth where decay or bone loss can begin without dental imaging. A dentist is severely limited on evaluating the bone for pathologies, too.

There comes a point where the dentist becomes negligent in his examination if he continues to allow you to bypass the dental imaging "bitewings." That is HIS or HER problem. If he misses something, and you are litigious, and you sue him, then it can mean that he not only will lose his malpractice insurance coverage he also may lose his state dental license. State Dental Boards insist on accurate dental records and dental images are part of that process.

So, sure, get on here and say it is all about the money. In my practice, dental images makes up 10.3% of my revenue. Substantial? Yes. All about the money? No. About protecting my practice for the future by keeping the State Board off my ass? You bet. Making sure that my patients know what is going on? Absolutely.

For the record, I have saved the lives of no less than 4 people by finding oral pathology with dental imaging. So roll the dice, save some money, tempt fate. It's your body. But don't be surprised if your dentist tells you to go somewhere else. They have too much to lose and it isn't the piddly amount they are collecting for their expertise. It is their livelihood and the ability to ensure that they can continue doing what they invested their lives into.
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Yes, all of this! ^^^^^
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Look at the bill, more money for them and the dentist does nothing but say, your tooth is ruined, this pain or that pain, i choose the latter pull the dam thing out.
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
Ya, well.... about 2 1/2 years ago, the first visit to a new dentist, those damned xray film holders poked a hole in my palate, so bad it went into the bone.

I had no idea it was so bad. I mean, it hurt like blazes, but it's not exactly an area one can see. So it didn't heal for a year.. then finally sealed off.

Now, I've got bone infection. Believed them when they said it was needing a root canal, even though zero tooth pain, but of course that didn't work.


You have any idea what they want to do now?! And how many thousands and what horrible surgeries?!

Forget them! I'm treating myself. Taking great care of myself, take padme for gram negative bacteria, do everything to build up my immune system.

It sucks.
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sometimes i wonder why we need dental cleanings?
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hesright
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
Not everything is about money. It sometimes is about consistent quality of care, or the standard of care. A dentist cannot inspect all areas of your teeth where decay or bone loss can begin without dental imaging. A dentist is severely limited on evaluating the bone for pathologies, too.

There comes a point where the dentist becomes negligent in his examination if he continues to allow you to bypass the dental imaging "bitewings." That is HIS or HER problem. If he misses something, and you are litigious, and you sue him, then it can mean that he not only will lose his malpractice insurance coverage he also may lose his state dental license. State Dental Boards insist on accurate dental records and dental images are part of that process.

So, sure, get on here and say it is all about the money. In my practice, dental images makes up 10.3% of my revenue. Substantial? Yes. All about the money? No. About protecting my practice for the future by keeping the State Board off my ass? You bet. Making sure that my patients know what is going on? Absolutely.

For the record, I have saved the lives of no less than 4 people by finding oral pathology with dental imaging. So roll the dice, save some money, tempt fate. It's your body. But don't be surprised if your dentist tells you to go somewhere else. They have too much to lose and it isn't the piddly amount they are collecting for their expertise. It is their livelihood and the ability to ensure that they can continue doing what they invested their lives into.
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"Keeping the State Board off my ass?" - Mr. Nash. you're part of the "system". . . . . . . . . . . . . . .sheep
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
Ostracized dentists can detect cavities without the xrays. Ask.

They just want insurance money.

If u get the xray.....get the lead jacket and thyroid guard.
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Not everything is about money. It sometimes is about consistent quality of care, or the standard of care. A dentist cannot inspect all areas of your teeth where decay or bone loss can begin without dental imaging. A dentist is severely limited on evaluating the bone for pathologies, too.

There comes a point where the dentist becomes negligent in his examination if he continues to allow you to bypass the dental imaging "bitewings." That is HIS or HER problem. If he misses something, and you are litigious, and you sue him, then it can mean that he not only will lose his malpractice insurance coverage he also may lose his state dental license. State Dental Boards insist on accurate dental records and dental images are part of that process.

So, sure, get on here and say it is all about the money. In my practice, dental images makes up 10.3% of my revenue. Substantial? Yes. All about the money? No. About protecting my practice for the future by keeping the State Board off my ass? You bet. Making sure that my patients know what is going on? Absolutely.

For the record, I have saved the lives of no less than 4 people by finding oral pathology with dental imaging. So roll the dice, save some money, tempt fate. It's your body, but don't be surprised if your dentist tells you to go somewhere else. They have too much to lose and it isn't the piddly amount they are collecting for their expertise. It is their livelihood and the ability to ensure that they can continue doing what they invested their lives into.
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Fixed.
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Not everything is about money. It sometimes is about consistent quality of care, or the standard of care. A dentist cannot inspect all areas of your teeth where decay or bone loss can begin without dental imaging. A dentist is severely limited on evaluating the bone for pathologies, too.

There comes a point where the dentist becomes negligent in his examination if he continues to allow you to bypass the dental imaging "bitewings." That is HIS or HER problem. If he misses something, and you are litigious, and you sue him, then it can mean that he not only will lose his malpractice insurance coverage he also may lose his state dental license. State Dental Boards insist on accurate dental records and dental images are part of that process.

So, sure, get on here and say it is all about the money. In my practice, dental images makes up 10.3% of my revenue. Substantial? Yes. All about the money? No. About protecting my practice for the future by keeping the State Board off my ass? You bet. Making sure that my patients know what is going on? Absolutely.

For the record, I have saved the lives of no less than 4 people by finding oral pathology with dental imaging. So roll the dice, save some money, tempt fate. It's your body. But don't be surprised if your dentist tells you to go somewhere else. They have too much to lose and it isn't the piddly amount they are collecting for their expertise. It is their livelihood and the ability to ensure that they can continue doing what they invested their lives into.
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"Keeping the State Board off my ass?" - Mr. Nash. you're part of the "system". . . . . . . . . . . . . . .sheep
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Dear Moran, you cannot practice dentistry WITHOUT being a part of the system. I don't like it, but it is reality. The state board decides if I get to practice dentistry, or not. What other option do I have?
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Ostracized dentists can detect cavities without the xrays. Ask.

They just want insurance money.

If u get the xray.....get the lead jacket and thyroid guard.
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It is not only about the detection of cavities. And, yes, your dental provider should ALWAYS give you the thyroid collar. Lead jacket? Umm, probably not if they have the latest equipment (columnated and filtered cones).
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Re: Soooo, I have an appointment for a "dental exam/cleaning" - Refusing X-Rays again.
My dentist (more so my dentist assistant) are clearly getting upset with my flat out refusal to get the "bite wings" I've been with them for years now - they know my teeth, I'm pretty good with my oral hygiene but they always want to take those friggin' X-Rays. What gives?
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They want to "see" if you have any cavity forming inside your teeth, and then drill some holes in them and take your money out your pockets.
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Could "plaque build up" be a result of bad diet???
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Inflamatory process and not absorved bloodstream calcium.





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