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No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?

 
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11/25/2015 08:51 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Preppers ...

So I'm not in the BEST financial situation where I can throw down a ton of money on guns. What are cheap ways that you think I might be able to protect my food and supplies with out guns?

Thanks
 Quoting: Nickyisnticky


diy break action shotgun

google that
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11/25/2015 08:52 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Even with guns and x number of friends there is no guarantee.

So, do you want to hold on to a bs concept (home sweet home) or do you want to survive?

If you want to survive then you will have to be mobile and you will have to abandon attachments to places and things.

period
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11/25/2015 08:53 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
1) Dog like a German Wirehaired Pointer or German Shepherd (sweet dogs, but can get aggressive with intruders and are big).

2) Keep car fob with you and hit the alarm/panic button if anybody comes in.

3) Big can of bear spray or wasp spray

4) Phone with alarm
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11/25/2015 08:54 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
As a last line of defence keep a bottle of whiskey in the house, laced with poison or rohypnol or something, so if intruders make themselves at home they'll be unconscious and you can finish them off.
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11/25/2015 08:55 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Even with guns and x number of friends there is no guarantee.

So, do you want to hold on to a bs concept (home sweet home) or do you want to survive?

If you want to survive then you will have to be mobile and you will have to abandon attachments to places and things.

period
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70894698



You just made yourself a Refugee.

Its the last thing you want to do.

You should have many other plans to keep you from NOT becoming a refugee.

And I am not going to tell you how I would keep my stuff.
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11/25/2015 09:00 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
I know! You construct a weapon. Look around, can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?
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11/25/2015 09:03 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
I know! You construct a weapon. Look around, can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?
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Don't need one.

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11/25/2015 09:05 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
If you were roaming for food, how would you pick a home to loot?

What would you be looking for?

- Lights
- Noise
- Foot prints (snow)
- smoke from fire
- odor of food (starving people can smell food very well)



Now, plan to make your home look unattractive for looters.


This is the fist line of defense, avoiding conflict.

Second line, either flee or fight. Make this choice quickly when needed.

Steak knives
marbles on floor


Think about this, you can lure the looters into a specific area then ambush them. Take their weapons.




This is all in theory of a madmax world scenario.
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11/25/2015 09:14 AM
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I know! You construct a weapon. Look around, can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?
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11/25/2015 09:22 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Ditch axe.

A very usefully tool to have about, and would make a wicked last stand item.
Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but hollow-points expand on impact.

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11/25/2015 09:25 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Nail guns, machette, knives. You can also go all ninja and buy light bulbs, break a few, crush the glass so its fine, fill up other light bulb with said glass and throw them on them, preferably in the face.
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11/25/2015 09:27 AM
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11/25/2015 09:31 AM

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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
If you truly have a good stock of preps (particularly cigs, alcohol, spices, etc), and IF shit goes down to the extent we all need these, you will be in a position to trade for what you need in pretty short order.

So, in that short window before demand rises sufficiently to trade/barter, you should hide the valuable stuff, leave enough shit laying around that someone breaking in thinks they actually took something (like ramen noodles, cheap shit), lay low. Maybe go begging periodically to make folks think you don't have anything.

A bat, a few trip wires guarding same, and maybe a bit of stealth will help you through the unlikely event someone figures out your real stash, and if unsuccessful defending same, it won't really matter much...
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
Nickyisnticky  (OP)

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11/25/2015 09:39 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Preppers ...

So I'm not in the BEST financial situation where I can throw down a ton of money on guns. What are cheap ways that you think I might be able to protect my food and supplies with out guns?

Thanks
 Quoting: Nickyisnticky


You have a felony huh. That sucks.
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr



felons can still purchase a firearm off the streets
 Quoting: Pyax


Lol not a felon, never been arrested... Just got married a few weeks ago so starting out..
XRAT

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11/25/2015 09:47 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Check on armslist in your area. Good, solid, used single shot shotguns normally go for $50 - $100. Shells are available everywhere at every price range. Do not go the homemade route.
Fuck em and feed em hot dogs.
Nickyisnticky  (OP)

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11/25/2015 09:49 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Thank you (most of you) for your ideas! I really appreciate them and keep 'me coming!
<3
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11/25/2015 09:50 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Befriend someone that does and kill em and take their shit!
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11/25/2015 09:52 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Hot pepper juice in a super soaker water gun works great. Used it on a drunk neighbor that was starting a fight with another neighbor at my home. They shoot far, just strain the pepper juice well so you don't clog the water pistol.
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11/25/2015 09:54 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Go to Home Depot and make yourself a 12 ga slam fire. Get creative and make it a double barrel.
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Even with guns and x number of friends there is no guarantee.

So, do you want to hold on to a bs concept (home sweet home) or do you want to survive?

If you want to survive then you will have to be mobile and you will have to abandon attachments to places and things.

period
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70894698


I live in a highly populated city. It's going to be impossible for us to get out. Our game plan in to hunker down for a month, let the other people go ape shit on each other, and then try and get out.
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11/25/2015 09:58 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Preppers ...

So I'm not in the BEST financial situation where I can throw down a ton of money on guns. What are cheap ways that you think I might be able to protect my food and supplies with out guns?

Thanks
 Quoting: Nickyisnticky


construct vietnam era passive defense devices
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70894330


^^Those boys knew the score^^


What's the sign they put on a cleared house for infectious disease'?
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11/25/2015 10:00 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Get a few iron rods.

If you are serious.

ANd you really need to defend yourself.

And someone is coming through that door.

A 5-6 foot iron rod lined up horizontally and "plunged" through a crack in the door will take out whatever's behind at it as long as it's not covered in steel.
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11/25/2015 10:12 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Even with guns and x number of friends there is no guarantee.

So, do you want to hold on to a bs concept (home sweet home) or do you want to survive?

If you want to survive then you will have to be mobile and you will have to abandon attachments to places and things.

period
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70894698


I live in a highly populated city. It's going to be impossible for us to get out. Our game plan in to hunker down for a month, let the other people go ape shit on each other, and then try and get out.
 Quoting: Nickyisnticky


Have your exit routes planned out preferably to get out without too much or any attention. In a worst case I would not worry about what the landlord thinks about knocking out walls. It won't matter anymore anyway.

oh and

bear spray in a can the size of a fire extinguisher and remember to exit quickly when you use it and never be downwind
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11/25/2015 10:14 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Someone mentioned wasp spray. That is an outstanding alternative if you are unable to wield a firearm. It's a standoff weapon. Even a hand to hand expert can get taken down by a lucky attacker. So you want to avoid hand to hand if possible. Wasp spray is non lethal, so once you hit them with the spray follow up with a bat, knife or any other weapon.
Fuck em and feed em hot dogs.
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11/25/2015 10:24 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Even with guns and x number of friends there is no guarantee.

So, do you want to hold on to a bs concept (home sweet home) or do you want to survive?

If you want to survive then you will have to be mobile and you will have to abandon attachments to places and things.

period
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70894698



You just made yourself a Refugee.

Its the last thing you want to do.

You should have many other plans to keep you from NOT becoming a refugee.

And I am not going to tell you how I would keep my stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65267488


You do not live in the real world. Die with your crap if you like go down thinking about what a tough guy you are. lmao
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11/25/2015 10:35 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Mobility, refugee status, food, water, medical, survival, long-term and material supply.

Hmmm.

You'd have to imagine that there would be at least 10 other people directly around you as you attempt the exact same thing. More if you're inside a big city.

Then there would most likely be tens of thousands of people on either side of you doing the exact same thing as well as every other possible reaction imaginable including simply flipping the complete-fuck out and hurting people while they're at it.


Long-term survival is another issue, how long will you require this mode of operation?

Will the issue resolve itself? Or will this be a long-term event?

Will this last 2-7 days? 2-4 week? 2-4 months? 6 months? 8 months to 1 year? 1-2 years? 2-7 years? The rest of your life?

Each of these time periods categorize into various degrees of requirement and material supply depending on your geographical location, number of people, health, and threats in the area.

It would be nearly impossible to stay in a location and have enough supplies for a long-term event unless you are already outside of the suburbs and have a secure fall-out shelter of some sort.

Unity is one of the only ways this would work.

One of the only ways.

There are a substantial supply of ways this can go wrong.
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Firecrackers
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11/25/2015 10:43 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Preppers ...

So I'm not in the BEST financial situation where I can throw down a ton of money on guns. What are cheap ways that you think I might be able to protect my food and supplies with out guns?

Thanks
 Quoting: Nickyisnticky


You have a felony huh. That sucks.
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


It isn't just felons who can't buy guns. Some misdemeanor charges prevent you from legally buying them.

Domestic violence is an easy charge for the NWO courts to disarm Americans. Many people think it's just a charge for wife beaters but it can apply for anyone living inside the same house as you.

Brother, sister, dad, roomate, etc. Say they block the door one day and prevent you from leaving. If you push them out of the way and they fall and bump their head or something and call the cops, you get arrested and once convicted you can no longer buy guns the legal way or legally possess them.

That law needs to be eradicated and renamed to assault and battery. You can beat the living shit out of someone at the bar or someone walking down the sidewalk that looks at you funny. Then when you get out of jail you can still keep your guns. But yet the pettiest fight inside the home will rob you of your constitutional "rights". I don't get it.
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11/25/2015 10:46 AM
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
A cheep .22
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Re: No guns and hardly any money... How to defend home?
Preppers ...

So I'm not in the BEST financial situation where I can throw down a ton of money on guns. What are cheap ways that you think I might be able to protect my food and supplies with out guns?

Thanks
 Quoting: Nickyisnticky


Theres no excuse for not at least having a used single shot 12 gauge that you can find for $75. Buy some ammo as you go...