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Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?

 
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Has anyone seen the "whole" Coast Guard video actully showing the "plane" yet... All I've seen them show is the 2 secs. before the explosion...And the explosion is a bit too large for the fuel on board, even if full..

Also the passport???

And the supposed wreckage that fell to the street.. Pics???
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You know...I wondered tha myself. I thought the fire and explosion was excessive at the moment of impact. An eye witness swore that the plane didn't have wings. Hmmmm. And what about the wreckage on the street? I wonder if it bore any resemblance to that type of aircraft. And a passport conveniently laying on the sidewalk.
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Nothing in this official story adds up yet again...


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Nothing in this official story adds up yet again...


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Ok...we could wonder if something else hit the building. The whole thing is bazaar.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
I think we are looking at some sort of ritual or possibly a communication to a group or groups. I think that there is some symbolism here in that it occured on 10-11-06 or the mirror of 9-11-01, it involved a Yankees player which is iconic, a high rise in New York and was very public. It would be simple to use a microwave beam or something like that to screw with the avionics and maybe it is possible to steer the plane remotley using some sort of avionics technology. Who knows, but I just think the whole thing is a bit too pat for my taste. We live in a world where nothing is as it seems.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
I keep thinking that
this was the practice run.
The UN is very close
to the place hit.
I actually thought that
flight space was pretty
restricted after 9/11
but I guess not.

I believe the wittnesses
that reported they saw a plane
without wings...
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
I keep thinking that
this was the practice run.
The UN is very close
to the place hit.
I actually thought that
flight space was pretty
restricted after 9/11
but I guess not.

I believe the wittnesses
that reported they saw a plane
without wings...
 Quoting: impetigo 2671
Two ladies on the morning news said they had a clear view and with the buildings in the background as a backdrop they said they didn't see any wings.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
I keep thinking that
this was the practice run.
The UN is very close
to the place hit.
I actually thought that
flight space was pretty
restricted after 9/11
but I guess not.

I believe the wittnesses
that reported they saw a plane
without wings...
Two ladies on the morning news said they had a clear view and with the buildings in the background as a backdrop they said they didn't see any wings.
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Do you think they were awfully quick to identify and report that pitcher dead?
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
I keep thinking that
this was the practice run.
The UN is very close
to the place hit.
I actually thought that
flight space was pretty
restricted after 9/11
but I guess not.

I believe the wittnesses
that reported they saw a plane
without wings...
Two ladies on the morning news said they had a clear view and with the buildings in the background as a backdrop they said they didn't see any wings.
Do you think they were awfully quick to identify and report that pitcher dead?
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Identification of the body...notify next of kin etc.???
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
Yes, I do think the reporting
of the pilot's death was
rather quick. Normally, they
wait for an autopsy to officially
call someone's death. Since
the pilot didn't file a flight
plan, and there are several
airports within the area, how
did they know so quickly.
Presumably, the plane and tail
numbers were incinerated?

It was 9/11 all over again.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
correct me if i am wrong, but wasn't there a small plane that hit a building a few weeks before 9/11?
If that is the case then may be soon we might see another event unfolding.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
Yes, I do think the reporting
of the pilot's death was
rather quick. Normally, they
wait for an autopsy to officially
call someone's death. Since
the pilot didn't file a flight
plan, and there are several
airports within the area, how
did they know so quickly.
Presumably, the plane and tail
numbers were incinerated?

It was 9/11 all over again.
 Quoting: impetigo 2671
Like I said before....stay tuned!!!
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
Clearly, this was a failed holographic mini-nuke.
George Bush built it himself, which is why it failed.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
Local Paper Newsday has a lot of good coverage on this.

[link to www.newsday.com]
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
Come on@@@!!!!!

No way!!!!!!


A New Air Place!!

A Pilot instructor!!!!!

NYC with big big buildings!!!!

They made a mistake and ran into a building.

nope

10.11.06 < > 9.11.01

you know it I know it

This is the sleep cell wake up call

get ready for nukes within 10 days

that was the phone call

how stupid we are
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Make that how stupid YOU are and I'll agree.

Friggin' paranoid.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
Yes, I do think the reporting
of the pilot's death was
rather quick. Normally, they
wait for an autopsy to officially
call someone's death. Since
the pilot didn't file a flight
plan, and there are several
airports within the area, how
did they know so quickly.
Presumably, the plane and tail
numbers were incinerated?

It was 9/11 all over again.
 Quoting: impetigo 2671



No, they do not wait for an autopsy to declare someone's death. The person must be legally dead before an autopsy can proceed, sucko.
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Re: Do you guys believe a New airplane with a fight insturctor flying with a bright pilot of one year ran into a building?
YankeesFull coverage of Cory Lidle plane crash

Apartment victim saved by her housekeeper
A quick-thinking and unselfish housekeeper saved her boss' life as the plane belonging to Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle crashed into the apartment where both were working. (Oct 12, 2006)
Photos: Cory Lidle
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Probe deepens into crash's cause
Investigators Thursday said they recovered an intact parachute from the wreckage of the small plane that was carrying a Yankees pitcher and his flight instructor when it crashed into an Upper East Side building. (Oct 12, 2006)
A look at Lidle's final hours
Photos: Mourning Lidle and Stanger
Flying around NYC never easy, pilots say
The airspace around New York City, including the narrow East River corridor where Cory Lidle was flying when his plane struck a luxury condominium building, is one of the world's most complex areas in which to fly. (Oct 13, 2006)
Videos: Cory Lidle plane crash
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A lethal mix of factors -- a new pilot and a California-based flight instructor who may have been unfamiliar with the busy and windy flight path along the East River -- may have contributed to the plane crash Wednesday that killed Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle and his instructor, a National Transportation Safety Board source said. (Oct 13, 2006)
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Lidle family could lose his $1.5M benefit
Cory Lidle's beneficiaries could lose out on $1.5 million from baseball's benefit plan if it's determined that he was piloting his plane when it crashed into a Manhattan high-rise building Wednesday. (Oct 13, 2006)
Audio: Lidle's last WFAN interview
Cory Lidle's pilot license
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Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle and flight instructor Tyler Stanger said what would be their final goodbyes to their wives at Kennedy Airport before the women boarded a commercial flight to Los Angeles. (Oct 12, 2006)
Yankees Blog
Cory Lidle's career stats
Spotlight on aircraft's safety record
In recent years, the manufacturer of the type of airplane that crashed Wednesday into a Manhattan high-rise, backed by pilots who fly the craft, have worked together to improve its safety record from significantly below average to about equal to the national average for private planes. (Oct 13, 2006)
524 E. 72nd Street
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The day after Cory Lidle's plane exploded into a high-rise apartment tower on the Upper East Side, residents there struggled to achieve a sense of normalcy. (Oct 13, 2006)
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The policies of the four major professional sports leagues as they relate to plays and dangerous activities. The only league that specifically prohibits piloting a plane in its standard player contract is the NBA. (Oct 13, 2006)
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Pilots who fly the Cirrus SR20 defended it yesterday, insisting that it was safe and that while complex - with the latest in communications and navigation equipment - it was no more difficult to fly than other single-engine planes if the pilot is properly trained and accustomed to the aircraft. (Oct 13, 2006)
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Since Yankee pitcher Cory Lidle's death in a plane crash Wednesday, National Employee Assistance Providers Inc. in Ronkonkoma has experienced a 10 percent uptick in the calls it has received from employees seeking counseling. (Oct 13, 2006)
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Remembering Cory Lidle
Cory Lidle was a baseball player by profession, but he didn't look like one, nor did he act like one. He was 5-11 and 175 pounds and preferred chess, poker, pool and, sadly, flying planes. (Oct 11, 2006)
Building residents shaken by crash
The 50-story luxury condominium tower struck Wednesday by a single-engine plane houses a number of notable New Yorkers and was built by the same architectural firm behind the W Times Square and the Four Seasons hotels. (Oct 12, 2006)
An afternoon shattered by tragedy
The skies above East 72nd Street were heavy with clouds, as though someone had pinned gray sheets just above the buildings. James Trezza, 34, an art dealer, was on his way to Sotheby's to pick up a catalogue. Luc, Trezza's skittish Jack Russell terrier, was leashed and trotting alongside him. (Oct 11, 2006)
Traffic diverted after crash
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The chilling, almost unspeakable question resounded across Long Island Wednesday as strangers gathered in bars and stores to watch a Manhattan high-rise on fire. (Oct 11, 2006)
Scenes from a day in the city
Ann Culkin was working as a nurse at urgent care at Memorial Sloan-Kettering yesterday afternoon when someone began repeating the news on the radio that a plane had burrowed into the corner apartment building at 72nd and York Avenue, four blocks away. So that's why I smell smoke, Ann told herself. (Oct 12, 2006)
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Crash tested city's security reflexes
In the moments after Wednesday's plane crash, a typical Manhattan weekday gave way to a scene eerily reminiscent of Sept. 11, with dozens and dozens of police cars, fire engines and ambulances racing to the scene, sirens blaring. (Oct 12, 2006)
Aircraft has a history of accidents
In the past seven years, the model of single-engine aircraft that slammed into a Manhattan apartment building yesterday has been involved in 20 accidents in which at least 15 people died, according to the National Transportation Safety Board and published reports. (Oct 12, 2006)
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City's history of aviation mishaps
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They reportedly found his identification amid the debris on the street. Amid the wreckage of the airplane, among the bodies. (Oct 11, 2006)
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YankeesHIGH-RISE CRASH
Pilot's 13 fateful minutes
BY SYLVIA ADCOCK
SPECIAL TO NEWSDAY

October 12, 2006


The single-engine plane that struck a luxury apartment building on the Upper East Side was flying in a narrow tract of unrestricted airspace known as the East River corridor - but was close to where the corridor dead-ends into the highly controlled airspace used by LaGuardia Airport.

The corridor is similar to the Hudson River corridor, a sight-seeing route more popular with private pilots because it is wider, whereas the East River route is narrower, is tougher to turn around in and bumps up against LaGuardia's airspace near the northern end of Roosevelt Island. Pilots must get permission to enter LaGuardia's airspace, and they may not get it. If they do, they must remain in constant contact with air traffic controllers as they try to guide big jets into the airport.

The boundaries of the East River corridor are from riverbank to riverbank and from 1,100 feet down to the water. The East 70s - near where the plane crashed into the building - is approximately 20 blocks south of where the corridor dead-ends into LaGuardia's airspace.

Chris Dancy, a spokesman for the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, said that the East River corridor is 2,100 feet wide and "that's not a lot of room," particularly if the pilot of the airplane was trying to turn around.

According to Laura Brown, an FAA spokeswoman in Washington, the East River corridor ends at the northern tip of Roosevelt Island. She said the pilot of the aircraft "was about to bump into LaGuardia's airspace. He was going to have to turn around if he was going to stay in the ... corridor," she said.

Brown said the last contact the plane had with air traffic controllers was at Teterboro airport when the plane took off. No attempt to contact controllers who handled LaGuardia's airspace was made, she said. The FAA has no record of a distress call, but she said it's possible the plane did issue a call to another pilot on another frequency flying in the same area.

In the aftermath of the crash, two New York lawmakers expressed concern that private planes are allowed to fly up and down the Hudson and East rivers with no restrictions.

"Today, it's terrible that people were killed," said Rep. Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. "But this is also a signal to terrorists as to how they could attack Manhattan."

Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-Manhattan), whose district includes the East Side, echoed King. "We have to learn from this," she said. "I am concerned that small, non-commercial flights are flying over densely populated areas without flight patterns."

After Sept. 11, 2001, the airspace around Manhattan was severely restricted, but those restrictions eased up within six months.

About the plane

Corey Lidle's plane was a high-performance Cirrus SR20, a model that first enteres production in 1998.

Type: Four-seat light aircraft

Manufactured: 2002

Registration: Yankees pitcher Corey Lidle, Lakeland, Fla.

Registration number: N929CD

Engine: 200-hp. Propeller driven

Maximum cruising speed: 185 MPH

Ceiling: 16,000 feet

Range: 920 miles
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Pilot's 13 fateful minutes
BY SYLVIA ADCOCK
SPECIAL TO NEWSDAY

October 12, 2006

<< Previous
THE BELAIRE

524 E. 72nd Street

DESCRIPTION: Luxury condominium complex

STORIES: 50

APARTMENTS: 183

BUILT: Late 1980s by William Zeckendorf Jr.

PRICE: From $500,000 condo to $2 million penthouse

FAMOUS OWNERS: Author Carol Higgins Clark, daughter of novelist Mary Higgins Clark; former Bloomingdale's CEO, chairman Marvin Traub

NEIGHBORS: Sotherby's auction house; New York Weill Cornell Medical Center

(1) TETERBORO AIRPORT, N.J.

The cirrus SR20 plane takes off at 2:29 p.m.

(2) STATUE OF LIBERTY

Several minutes later, the plane goes past Liberty Island before turning north

(3) EAST RIVER

The plane flies up the East River, using an air corridor for small planes.

(4) QUEENSBORO BRIDGE

It loses radar contact near the bridge

(5) UPPER EAST SIDE

Aviation rules forbid planes from flying north of Roosevelt Island without approval. To avoid the restricted area, the pilot apparently makes a U-Turn, headed south. The pilot reportedly struggles with the plane before crashing into the north side of The Belaire, a condo building, at 2:42 p.m.

Restricted airspace

Small sight-seeing planes are limited to an air corridor on the East River that extends to the Northern tip of Roosevelt Island, Parallel to about 85th Street in Manhattan.

This prevents these planes from entering LaGuardia airspace. Inside this "exclusion zone," aircraft must fly below 1,100 feet and contact LaGuardia tower. It's possible the pilot recognized he was near the limit of the exclusion zone, could not contact the tower and made a pre-emptive turn south to avoid entering LaGuardia airspace.

Staff writers Carol Eisenberg, Anthony M. DeStefano and Eden Laikin contributed to this story.
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"No, they do not wait for an autopsy to declare someone's death. The person must be legally dead before an autopsy can proceed, sucko."

The autopsy by the coroner would be required in order to ID the victims. I'm assuming you support the passport story.





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