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Turkey BLOCKADES Russian Shipping; Black Sea Fleet Completely Cut off

 
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Turkey has begun a blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between the Black Sea and Mediterranean.

According to the AIS tracking system for the movement of maritime vessels, only Turkish vessels are moving along the Bosphorus, and in the Dardanelles there is no movement of any shipping at all.

This has completely strangled the Russian Navy Black Sea fleet, which is now unable to leave the Black Sea to travel anywhere else in the world AND is unable to return to its home ports!

Under the terms of the Montreux Convention, Turkey is only permitted to block warships when it is "threatened with aggression" or when it is "at war."

Since it was Turkey who shot down a Russian military jet last week, I'll leave it to all of you to decide whether Turkey sees itself "threatened with aggression" or "at war."

This is a terrifyingly dangerous escalation of hostilities between Turkey and Russia and moves us a giant step closer to actual World War. This isn't a game and it isn't a joke. This is exactly how wars start.

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I'm not sure about that site, but thanks for the heads up, OP. If this is real, we'll get confirmation soon.
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This is the route from the Black Sea to the rest of the water world.

There is no way in hell Putin would let such a thing happen.

I anticipate Russia will break the blockade and retaliate against Turkish Naval Bases that may further attempt future blockades.


All considering if this is true and is represented as fact.
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According to the tracking system for the movement of maritime AIS, now move only along the Bosphorus Turkish vessels, and in the Dardanelles there is no movement at all. At the same time, both from the Black Sea, and from the Mediterranean Sea, there is a small cluster of ships under the Russian flag. In addition, from Novorossiisk and Sevastopol in the direction of the Bosphorus is not moving, no Russian vessel. This indirectly confirms the night CNN statement that Turkey has blocked the movement of Russian ships on the Strait.

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‏@Mtamerri Nov 28
Turkey cannot close the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles to Russian ships, they can only close it when they are at war @Shamase01 @zerohedge

@GhostOfPJK Nov 28
The only way #turkey #russia could get worse is if #putin tries to sail the Black Sea feet down the Dardanelles. #auspol

@deinioljonesGL7 Nov 28
Montreux Convention allows Turkey to block Dardanelles in event of war. Turkey begins policing exercises. [link to by24.org]

‏@killjoy27 2 hours ago
[email protected] Seeing reports on some Russian sites that #Turkey blocked the Bosphorus Straight to Russian Vessels. Can you confirm?

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This is the route from the Black Sea to the rest of the water world.

There is no way in hell Putin would let such a thing happen.

I anticipate Russia will break the blockade and retaliate against Turkish Naval Bases that may further attempt future blockades.


All considering if this is true and is represented as fact.
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Oh yeah. If it's real, it's war.
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Superstation95 is a pretty bad source.
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Superstation95 is a pretty bad source.
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Yeah, a quick search has turned up no corroborating stories.
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@SputnikInt Nov 27

Turkey has no legal, economic basis to close bosphorus for Russian ships [link to sputniknews.com]

@zerohedge Nov 28

Russia's biggest risk: Turkey shuts down Bosphorus to Russian ship transit
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@NavyLookout 19 minutes ago

Has Turkey closed the Bosphorus to Russian naval vessels transiting between Black Sea and Syria?

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Re: Turkey BLOCKADES Russian Shipping; Black Sea Fleet Completely Cut off
This is the route from the Black Sea to the rest of the water world.

There is no way in hell Putin would let such a thing happen.

I anticipate Russia will break the blockade and retaliate against Turkish Naval Bases that may further attempt future blockades.


All considering if this is true and is represented as fact.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Lol. He's not breaking through shit. This isn't an old western movie.
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WTF is wrong with Turkey those dumb ass mother fuckers? they keep egging Russia to fight when its there fuck ass fault for all this bullshit those terrorist supporting jackasses. wtf
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How many US ships/subs are in the black sea and how many are headed their Now is the question.
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According to this article

52,000 ships pass through the Bosporus each year

(142 ships per day)

[link to www.todayszaman.com]

Closing down the strait means war, for sure.
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If the Russians got that gizmo that takes out a ships electrical system like they did to the U.S. ship months ago all they got to do is use that and Turkish ships become sitting ducks.
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According to this article

52,000 ships pass through the Bosporus each year

(142 ships per day)

[link to www.todayszaman.com]

Closing down the strait means war, for sure.
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Do you think Russia will attack throse ships if it's true?
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I'm not sure about that site, but thanks for the heads up, OP. If this is real, we'll get confirmation soon.
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That site is full of crap.
Making things up out of whole cloth.
Here's a headline on the site right now.

Putin Orders 150,000 Troops Deployed into Syria
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Superstation95 is a pretty bad source.
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Are you out of your mind? They put a direct link to the AIS Maritime web site in their story at the bottom, so readers can go see for themselves that Russian ships are being held!

It's realtime data direct from the GPS transponders on the ships themselves.

How much more credible can it get when you have a way to prove it to yourself???????

To me, they are a completely credible news outlet.
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If the Russians got that gizmo that takes out a ships electrical system like they did to the U.S. ship months ago allu they got to do is use that and Turkish ships become sitting ducks.
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That was proven fake. It never happened. It was fiction from some obscure blog and the CT community ran with it.
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I'm not sure about that site, but thanks for the heads up, OP. If this is real, we'll get confirmation soon.
 Quoting: Revbo™


That site is full of crap.
Making things up out of whole cloth.
Here's a headline on the site right now.

Putin Orders 150,000 Troops Deployed into Syria
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Oh, really? Then I guess the London Express is completely lying too? Because that large newspaper in London is also reporting the same thing about 150,000 Russian troops BEING deployed to Syria. Here;'s the link:

[link to www.express.co.uk]

Just because YOU don't have a clue what's going on in the world doesn't mean the rest of us or are sources are wrong. Maybe you should educate yourself a little bit before you post so you don't look so stupid.
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Have doubts on veracity, but huge news if true
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Superstation95 is a pretty bad source.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70926643


Are you out of your mind? They put a direct link to the AIS Maritime web site in their story at the bottom, so readers can go see for themselves that Russian ships are being held!

It's realtime data direct from the GPS transponders on the ships themselves.

How much more credible can it get when you have a way to prove it to yourself???????

To me, they are a completely credible news outlet.
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I honestly didn't click the link sorry OP. It's just from past experience I don't really trust them. 5 stars for you though.

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If the Russians got that gizmo that takes out a ships electrical system like they did to the U.S. ship months ago allu they got to do is use that and Turkish ships become sitting ducks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911186


That was proven fake. It never happened. It was fiction from some obscure blog and the CT community ran with it.
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But people here bought it hook line and sinker.
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I'm not sure about that site, but thanks for the heads up, OP. If this is real, we'll get confirmation soon.
 Quoting: Revbo™


That site is full of crap.
Making things up out of whole cloth.
Here's a headline on the site right now.

Putin Orders 150,000 Troops Deployed into Syria
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70924566


Oh, really? Then I guess the London Express is completely lying too? Because that large newspaper in London is also reporting the same thing about 150,000 Russian troops BEING deployed to Syria. Here;'s the link:

[link to www.express.co.uk]

Just because YOU don't have a clue what's going on in the world doesn't mean the rest of us or are sources are wrong. Maybe you should educate yourself a little bit before you post so you don't look so stupid.
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Yes, the Express tabloid lies way more than their share too.
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If this is actually live, like it says, the strait is closed.

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Turkey has begun a blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between the Black Sea and Mediterranean.

According to the AIS tracking system for the movement of maritime vessels, only Turkish vessels are moving along the Bosphorus, and in the Dardanelles there is no movement of any shipping at all.

This has completely strangled the Russian Navy Black Sea fleet, which is now unable to leave the Black Sea to travel anywhere else in the world AND is unable to return to its home ports!

Under the terms of the Montreux Convention, Turkey is only permitted to block warships when it is "threatened with aggression" or when it is "at war."

Since it was Turkey who shot down a Russian military jet last week, I'll leave it to all of you to decide whether Turkey sees itself "threatened with aggression" or "at war."

This is a terrifyingly dangerous escalation of hostilities between Turkey and Russia and moves us a giant step closer to actual World War. This isn't a game and it isn't a joke. This is exactly how wars start.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70780425


If true, WWIII has just begun.

But I think we would have heard a statement from the Russians if this was true.
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Turkey has begun a blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between the Black Sea and Mediterranean.
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This ^ is the very reason Turkey is in NATO.
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I'm not sure about that site, but thanks for the heads up, OP. If this is real, we'll get confirmation soon.
 Quoting: Revbo™


That site is full of crap.
Making things up out of whole cloth.
Here's a headline on the site right now.

Putin Orders 150,000 Troops Deployed into Syria
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70924566


Oh, really? Then I guess the London Express is completely lying too? Because that large newspaper in London is also reporting the same thing about 150,000 Russian troops BEING deployed to Syria. Here;'s the link:

[link to www.express.co.uk]

Just because YOU don't have a clue what's going on in the world doesn't mean the rest of us or are sources are wrong. Maybe you should educate yourself a little bit before you post so you don't look so stupid.
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In fact, the Express' source is probably Superstation95.
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If this is actually live, like it says, the strait is closed.

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zoom out a bit and tell me how you interpret that as "CLOSED"
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Yes, USA just started ww3.
If I were a turk, I would leave Istanbul right now.
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Turkey are going to get their asses handed to them on a plate if they keep playing a cat and mouse game with Russia.
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If the Russians got that gizmo that takes out a ships electrical system like they did to the U.S. ship months ago allu they got to do is use that and Turkish ships become sitting ducks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911186


That was proven fake. It never happened. It was fiction from some obscure blog and the CT community ran with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68722573


But people here bought it hook line and sinker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70924566


Yeah, lol. Most here probably still think it's true.

But it just goes to show how it easy it is to fool Ppl and keep them from fact checking. Just tell them something they wish was true and they'll believe it.