Turkey BLOCKADES Russian Shipping; Black Sea Fleet Completely Cut off | |
DARTH SILIOUS Abrasive Fuck User ID: 70574113 United States 11/29/2015 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 142 ships pass through that narrow channel every day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70925042 6 ships per hour maybe there's no traffic cause it's a holiday?! What holiday? Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70925042 United States 11/29/2015 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70924379 United States 11/29/2015 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry but AIS indicate normal Russian shipping traffic [link to www.marinetraffic.com] TOTAL BULLSHIT! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70926161 United States 11/29/2015 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking pretty crowded there. Ship on it's way to Russia 2 min. ago. Quoting: Nine's [link to www.bosphorusstrait.com] Yep and there are multiple Russian cargo strips in the straight right now... So this story is complete and utter Bs. If this were BS, why would it be pinned? Pined and awaiting confirmation. The implications are too big. |
Nuclear User ID: 70734141 Sweden 11/29/2015 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bosphorus is full of ships The Dardanelles are indeed blocked. Not a single ship. Russia won't be amused. [link to www.marinetraffic.com] Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70764712 Finland 11/29/2015 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has begun a blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between the Black Sea and Mediterranean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70780425 According to the AIS tracking system for the movement of maritime vessels, only Turkish vessels are moving along the Bosphorus, and in the Dardanelles there is no movement of any shipping at all. This has completely strangled the Russian Navy Black Sea fleet, which is now unable to leave the Black Sea to travel anywhere else in the world AND is unable to return to its home ports! Under the terms of the Montreux Convention, Turkey is only permitted to block warships when it is "threatened with aggression" or when it is "at war." Since it was Turkey who shot down a Russian military jet last week, I'll leave it to all of you to decide whether Turkey sees itself "threatened with aggression" or "at war." This is a terrifyingly dangerous escalation of hostilities between Turkey and Russia and moves us a giant step closer to actual World War. This isn't a game and it isn't a joke. This is exactly how wars start. [link to www.superstation95.com (secure)] Russia and Turkey has legal deal, that if Turkey block Strait of Borborus, that is de facto act of war. No MSM news about this, so this is bullshit. |
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Nuclear User ID: 70734141 Sweden 11/29/2015 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has begun a blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between the Black Sea and Mediterranean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70780425 According to the AIS tracking system for the movement of maritime vessels, only Turkish vessels are moving along the Bosphorus, and in the Dardanelles there is no movement of any shipping at all. This has completely strangled the Russian Navy Black Sea fleet, which is now unable to leave the Black Sea to travel anywhere else in the world AND is unable to return to its home ports! Under the terms of the Montreux Convention, Turkey is only permitted to block warships when it is "threatened with aggression" or when it is "at war." Since it was Turkey who shot down a Russian military jet last week, I'll leave it to all of you to decide whether Turkey sees itself "threatened with aggression" or "at war." This is a terrifyingly dangerous escalation of hostilities between Turkey and Russia and moves us a giant step closer to actual World War. This isn't a game and it isn't a joke. This is exactly how wars start. [link to www.superstation95.com (secure)] Russia and Turkey has legal deal, that if Turkey block Strait of Borborus, that is de facto act of war. No MSM news about this, so this is bullshit. Bosphorus isn't blocked. Dardanelles are. It's the same passage: Check it for yourself before you raise. [link to www.marinetraffic.com] Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
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Nine's User ID: 68788019 United States 11/29/2015 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking pretty crowded there. Ship on it's way to Russia 2 min. ago. Quoting: Nine's [link to www.bosphorusstrait.com] Read the map legend: CARGO ship; not Naval Vessel. It's the Russian NAVY that is being blocked. My God, some people don't even read what's actually reported. I did read what was reported. That, "Turkey BLOCKADES Russian Shipping." That's obviously not true or a ship wouldn't now be headed to Russia from that area. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68862917 United States 11/29/2015 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States 11/29/2015 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF is wrong with Turkey those dumb ass mother fuckers? they keep egging Russia to fight when its there fuck ass fault for all this bullshit those terrorist supporting jackasses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70855633 I suspect there are other players behind these decisions. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
Gelatinous Mass User ID: 67046660 United States 11/29/2015 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATTN BOSPORUS SHIPPING TARDS: Be advised that shipping traffic through the Bosporus Straights, like the Suez Canal, take places in one direction at a time for safety reasons. 12 Hours for N-heading traffic 12 Hours for S-heading traffic If there are loads of ships stacking up at the entrance on either side, now you know why. Last Edited by Gelatinous Mass on 11/29/2015 06:38 PM |
Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States 11/29/2015 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure about that site, but thanks for the heads up, OP. If this is real, we'll get confirmation soon. Quoting: Revbo™ That site is full of crap. Making things up out of whole cloth. Here's a headline on the site right now. Putin Orders 150,000 Troops Deployed into Syria Ummm, they are doing that. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
fhlc nli User ID: 70924290 China 11/29/2015 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | solution, Russia employs China to dig a new shipping channel, through Bulgaria and Greece, with lots of labour jobs for Greeks and Bulgarians. Just announcing such a scheme,will reduce turkeys economic clout. Turkey has to be up there with Indonesia in terms of corruption,just as a general observation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45520665 United States 11/29/2015 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATTN BOSPORUS SHIPPING TARDS: Quoting: Gelatinous Mass Be advised that shipping traffic through the Bosporus Straights, like the Suez Canal, take places in one direction at a time for safety reasons. 12 Hours for N-heading traffic 12 Hours for S-heading traffic If there are loads of ships stacking up at the entrance on either side, now you know why. dude, there's like 50 stacked on one side and 40 on the other. this sure looks like there's no traffic moving to me. |
Truthserum User ID: 69911686 United States 11/29/2015 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has begun a blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between the Black Sea and Mediterranean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70780425 According to the AIS tracking system for the movement of maritime vessels, only Turkish vessels are moving along the Bosphorus, and in the Dardanelles there is no movement of any shipping at all. This has completely strangled the Russian Navy Black Sea fleet, which is now unable to leave the Black Sea to travel anywhere else in the world AND is unable to return to its home ports! Under the terms of the Montreux Convention, Turkey is only permitted to block warships when it is "threatened with aggression" or when it is "at war." Since it was Turkey who shot down a Russian military jet last week, I'll leave it to all of you to decide whether Turkey sees itself "threatened with aggression" or "at war." This is a terrifyingly dangerous escalation of hostilities between Turkey and Russia and moves us a giant step closer to actual World War. This isn't a game and it isn't a joke. This is exactly how wars start. [link to www.superstation95.com (secure)] COMPLETE and UTTER BULLSHIT I'm watching Russian ships passing freely as we speak. FACTS Don't Give a DAMN about your FEELINGS! |
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Gelatinous Mass User ID: 67046660 United States 11/29/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATTN BOSPORUS SHIPPING TARDS: Quoting: Gelatinous Mass Be advised that shipping traffic through the Bosporus Straights, like the Suez Canal, take places in one direction at a time for safety reasons. 12 Hours for N-heading traffic 12 Hours for S-heading traffic If there are loads of ships stacking up at the entrance on either side, now you know why. dude, there's like 50 stacked on one side and 40 on the other. this sure looks like there's no traffic moving to me. Mark my words... 24 hours from now the only place you will see or hear hysterics and armchair strategic analysis about Turkey closing the straights will be on GLP. It takes time to transit the straights. Traffic is controlled and staggered. Look back on any day of the year and you will see the same stackup of commercial vessels. Many sit at anchor simply because their destination port is not ready to receive them. There is nothing amiss here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70900708 Australia 11/29/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATTN BOSPORUS SHIPPING TARDS: Quoting: Gelatinous Mass Be advised that shipping traffic through the Bosporus Straights, like the Suez Canal, take places in one direction at a time for safety reasons. 12 Hours for N-heading traffic 12 Hours for S-heading traffic If there are loads of ships stacking up at the entrance on either side, now you know why. dude, there's like 50 stacked on one side and 40 on the other. this sure looks like there's no traffic moving to me. Well, considering you're the expert on Bosphorus marine traffic... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12555584 Switzerland 11/29/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has begun a blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between the Black Sea and Mediterranean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70780425 According to the AIS tracking system for the movement of maritime vessels, only Turkish vessels are moving along the Bosphorus, and in the Dardanelles there is no movement of any shipping at all. This has completely strangled the Russian Navy Black Sea fleet, which is now unable to leave the Black Sea to travel anywhere else in the world AND is unable to return to its home ports! Under the terms of the Montreux Convention, Turkey is only permitted to block warships when it is "threatened with aggression" or when it is "at war." Since it was Turkey who shot down a Russian military jet last week, I'll leave it to all of you to decide whether Turkey sees itself "threatened with aggression" or "at war." This is a terrifyingly dangerous escalation of hostilities between Turkey and Russia and moves us a giant step closer to actual World War. This isn't a game and it isn't a joke. This is exactly how wars start. [link to www.superstation95.com (secure)] Why is this pinned, check on live marine traffic the russian tanker A.BRYUKHOVETSKIY for example heading to Izmir as planned, no blocking of the Bosporus ... [link to www.marinetraffic.com] |
my 2 cents User ID: 68148154 Canada 11/29/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this is actually live, like it says, the strait is closed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70925042 Live Ships Map [link to www.marinetraffic.com] I'm seeing lots of shipping in the Sea of Marmara and the Bosphorus but none in the Dardanelles. So there might be some truth to the rumors. Patriotism is supporting your country always -- and your government when they deserve it. Mark Twain Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords. -Benjamin Franklin |
Robert50 User ID: 70920510 United States 11/29/2015 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure about that site, but thanks for the heads up, OP. If this is real, we'll get confirmation soon. Quoting: Revbo™ Yea like a couple of big BOOMS and Turkish military ships sunk. If this information is true(taken with a grain of salt) Turkey would be in clear violation of freedom of the seas treaty. As G.W. BUsh said in 2001 "Either you're with us or with the terrorists" Seems the US Government is with the terrorists in this instance! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29299315 United States 11/29/2015 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the route from the Black Sea to the rest of the water world. Quoting: -VonAmoR- There is no way in hell Putin would let such a thing happen. I anticipate Russia will break the blockade and retaliate against Turkish Naval Bases that may further attempt future blockades. All considering if this is true and is represented as fact. Lol. He's not breaking through shit. This isn't an old western movie. Way to make sense, guy! *in the most sarcastic of voices* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70882078 United Kingdom 11/29/2015 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this is actually live, like it says, the strait is closed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70925042 Live Ships Map [link to www.marinetraffic.com] No it isn't... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70925042 United States 11/29/2015 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this is actually live, like it says, the strait is closed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70925042 Live Ships Map [link to www.marinetraffic.com] I'm seeing lots of shipping in the Sea of Marmara and the Bosphorus but none in the Dardanelles. So there might be some truth to the rumors. You'd only have to close that little stretch between Canakkale and Gallipoli to bring things to a halt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45520665 United States 11/29/2015 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATTN BOSPORUS SHIPPING TARDS: Quoting: Gelatinous Mass Be advised that shipping traffic through the Bosporus Straights, like the Suez Canal, take places in one direction at a time for safety reasons. 12 Hours for N-heading traffic 12 Hours for S-heading traffic If there are loads of ships stacking up at the entrance on either side, now you know why. dude, there's like 50 stacked on one side and 40 on the other. this sure looks like there's no traffic moving to me. Mark my words... 24 hours from now the only place you will see or hear hysterics and armchair strategic analysis about Turkey closing the straights will be on GLP. It takes time to transit the straights. Traffic is controlled and staggered. Look back on any day of the year and you will see the same stackup of commercial vessels. Many sit at anchor simply because their destination port is not ready to receive them. There is nothing amiss here. there's nothing moving in that strait. the site clearly marks who is anchored, I'm not counting those. there's about 100 ships on either side, marked as in transit but not moving. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69892438 United Kingdom 11/29/2015 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is complete bullshit. The day that the straits of bosphorus and the dardanelles are denied to the Russians is the day that total war breaks out. The West know this and will not allow it to happen... If it does, then the Turks are on their own. |