Phoenix, you can present anything you like to me, it does mean nothing.
If you did not create the fact and are able to have it observed in the exact same way that it can be witness and objectified, then all you have presented me with is another's work.

If a person creates a reality based consciousness from someone else's work, then that person is a slave to that layer of consciousness.

There is no point for you even being on this thread, I am not interested in the dogma of fearing men in pasts long past for me.