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your effect upon people that meet you has not infrequently caused you to notice a similar structure occurs around you

the notion has caused you and me to ponder meaning of this on occasions
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Be careful

Say to much on this site and you may have someone assigned to you

Happened to me - true story
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your effect upon people that meet you has not infrequently caused you to notice a similar structure occurs around you

the notion has caused you and me to ponder meaning of this on occasions
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Obsession?


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Here's another thing not to say to kids..

You're gonna break a lot of hearts..

^^

It's a curse.
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How's this for 'sync'..


Who saw that 'Have you ever been stalked?' thread a couple days back?

I nearly posted the story of my 'first stalking' in high school and then decided against it, after seeing the responses in the thread..

He was a friend, of my friend's, boyfriend. I had no knowledge of it, and was only made aware, when she went to his house and found pictures of me all over his wall. Pictures I didn't even know were taken.

If that wasn't creepy enough, some months later we were at a mutual party and he broke down crying, after dramatically running down the middle of the road, telling me how much he loved me. All I could say was..Uuuuhh..Thank you?

He even invited me to his wedding years later, and then hugged me at the reception for far too long, saying 'thank you' over and over.

I like to think that meant, Thank you for being cool about that thing in high school, so I could find the real love of my life in college.. Last I saw, they has 3 kids.



AnywhOOo..I could not recall my friend's, boyfriend's name who was the common link between us. Today the synagogue shooter. Same first and last name as his. Spelled the same.

Different person though. Pretty weird.



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Often wondered how people can claim to "love" someone they've never spent real time with. People can be rather complicated (lol), and until you've at least been with someone who's suffering from food poisoning...well, how can you love them?
Obsession is a different matter, coupled with an idolized view of the person.
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Here's another thing not to say to kids..

You're gonna break a lot of hearts..

^^

It's a curse.
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How's this for 'sync'..


Who saw that 'Have you ever been stalked?' thread a couple days back?

I nearly posted the story of my 'first stalking' in high school and then decided against it, after seeing the responses in the thread..

He was a friend, of my friend's, boyfriend. I had no knowledge of it, and was only made aware, when she went to his house and found pictures of me all over his wall. Pictures I didn't even know were taken.

If that wasn't creepy enough, some months later we were at a mutual party and he broke down crying, after dramatically running down the middle of the road, telling me how much he loved me. All I could say was..Uuuuhh..Thank you?

He even invited me to his wedding years later, and then hugged me at the reception for far too long, saying 'thank you' over and over.

I like to think that meant, Thank you for being cool about that thing in high school, so I could find the real love of my life in college.. Last I saw, they has 3 kids.



AnywhOOo..I could not recall my friend's, boyfriend's name who was the common link between us. Today the synagogue shooter. Same first and last name as his. Spelled the same.

Different person though. Pretty weird.



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Often wondered how people can claim to "love" someone they've never spent real time with. People can be rather complicated (lol), and until you've at least been with someone who's suffering from food poisoning...well, how can you love them?
Obsession is a different matter, coupled with an idolized view of the person.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Exactly. Crushes can feel like 'love' but I didn't know at the time.

I was totally oblivious, until our friend told me, after seeing my pictures on his wall. The feeling I had, when she told me, sticks with me still. It was mixture of confusion and strange distress. To suddenly have the weight of his feelings thrust on me.

In the early 90s, stalking wasn't really 'thing' so I didn't think much of it, other than it was weird.

When he broke down crying, I knew it more than weird.


I didn't want to injure him by being bitchy, or snobby so I just said thank you. And gave him a hug..
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your effect upon people that meet you has not infrequently caused you to notice a similar structure occurs around you

the notion has caused you and me to ponder meaning of this on occasions
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Obsession?


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yes
to many not to notice
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Here's another thing not to say to kids..

You're gonna break a lot of hearts..

^^

It's a curse.
 Quoting: Seer777






Often wondered how people can claim to "love" someone they've never spent real time with. People can be rather complicated (lol), and until you've at least been with someone who's suffering from food poisoning...well, how can you love them?
Obsession is a different matter, coupled with an idolized view of the person.
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Exactly. Crushes can feel like 'love' but I didn't know at the time.

I was totally oblivious, until our friend told me, after seeing my pictures on his wall. The feeling I had, when she told me, sticks with me still. It was mixture of confusion and strange distress. To suddenly have the weight of his feelings thrust on me.

In the early 90s, stalking wasn't really 'thing' so I didn't think much of it, other than it was weird.

When he broke down crying, I knew it more than weird.


I didn't want to injure him by being bitchy, or snobby so I just said thank you. And gave him a hug..
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Not my philosophy, but the chemicals our body pumps can be pretty potent.

The picture part would stick with me more then any sobby "love confession". It can be difficult being on the receiving end of
unreciprocated feelings (ah...no...thank you...?) But the photos seem to take it to a different level for me.

At least the dude wasn't in the bushes taking them. ..was he..?

fear

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Often wondered how people can claim to "love" someone they've never spent real time with. People can be rather complicated (lol), and until you've at least been with someone who's suffering from food poisoning...well, how can you love them?
Obsession is a different matter, coupled with an idolized view of the person.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Exactly. Crushes can feel like 'love' but I didn't know at the time.

I was totally oblivious, until our friend told me, after seeing my pictures on his wall. The feeling I had, when she told me, sticks with me still. It was mixture of confusion and strange distress. To suddenly have the weight of his feelings thrust on me.

In the early 90s, stalking wasn't really 'thing' so I didn't think much of it, other than it was weird.

When he broke down crying, I knew it more than weird.


I didn't want to injure him by being bitchy, or snobby so I just said thank you. And gave him a hug..
 Quoting: Seer777



Not my philosophy, but the chemicals our body pumps can be pretty potent.

The picture part would stick with me more then any sobby "love confession". It can be difficult being on the receiving end of
unreciprocated feelings (ah...no...thank you...?) But the photos seem to take it to a different level for me.

At least the dude wasn't in the bushes taking them. ..was he..?

fear
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It has..as I aged. At 16, I just thought it was weird.

I never saw the pictures. My friend told him it was creepy, when she saw them, then told me.

Either way..he got over it, and got married and is a successful engineer, last I saw.

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Don't move until you see it.

See it?
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I saw IT
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Good


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What is.. friend?

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chuckle


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chuckle


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:)

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Just finished hosting my nephew's 17 birthday party. 10, 16 y/o boys, packed out the beach house, stayed up until the wee hours drinking milk and eating candy.

Not like the parties I remember at 16. They're all super achievers though..
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mellow group of enjoyable young men feels a comfortable experience for all

weather here became unseasonably cold today and ive been laying around looking at it
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I'm wondering if like teen pregnancy, if teen binge-drinking is on the decline.

It's a tough, harsh world they are attempting to get a toe-hold in. Very little room for error.

Maybe the hard partying days of America's youth, is at an end.

Probably for the better.


Use of Alcohol by Underage Youth

The 2013 National YRBS found that underage drinking rates are decreasing:

Lifetime use of alcohol by underage youth was 66.2%, which has fallen significantly over the past few decades (i.e., from 81.6% in 1991)

Current use of alcohol among underage youth was 34.9%, which has also fallen since 1991 (50.8%)
Note: A new report from SAMHSA21 offers even more promising numbers: In 2013, current use of alcohol among those ages 12–20 was 22.7%, down from 28.8% in 2002.

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i think you are right about their outlook
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Trends in Current Cigarette Smoking Among High School Students and Adults, United States, 1965–2014


1995 34.8
2013 15.7

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Peak of the blue line is when I became a smoker at 18. Nearly 4 years nonsmoker for me.

These are promising numbers. Nice to see some good news.
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Incompatibilism is the view that a deterministic universe is completely at odds with the notion that persons have a free will; that there is a dichotomy between determinism and free will where philosophers must choose one or the other.
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I'm wondering if like teen pregnancy, if teen binge-drinking is on the decline.

It's a tough, harsh world they are attempting to get a toe-hold in. Very little room for error.

Maybe the hard partying days of America's youth, is at an end.

Probably for the better.


Use of Alcohol by Underage Youth

The 2013 National YRBS found that underage drinking rates are decreasing:

Lifetime use of alcohol by underage youth was 66.2%, which has fallen significantly over the past few decades (i.e., from 81.6% in 1991)

Current use of alcohol among underage youth was 34.9%, which has also fallen since 1991 (50.8%)
Note: A new report from SAMHSA21 offers even more promising numbers: In 2013, current use of alcohol among those ages 12–20 was 22.7%, down from 28.8% in 2002.

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 Quoting: Seer777


Trends in Current Cigarette Smoking Among High School Students and Adults, United States, 1965–2014


1995 34.8
2013 15.7

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Peak of the blue line is when I became a smoker at 18. Nearly 4 years nonsmoker for me.

These are promising numbers. Nice to see some good news.
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Thread: Rural America school districts are consolidating and collapsing due to low birth rates and negative population growth (Page 2)
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Great thread OP. Very important issues!

Seems people also don't understand, what 'Negative Population Growth' is and what it mean for our economy..either.

Millennials say no to kids, population 'replacement level' turns negative
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^^ chart mimics the tobacco chart, but mirror opposite. When was the Dotcom bust? Enron.

hmm

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Dot-com bubble

The dot-com bubble (also known as the dot-com boom, the tech bubble, and the Internet bubble) was a historic economic bubble and period of excessive speculation that occurred roughly from 1995 to 2000, a period of extreme growth in the usage and adaptation of the Internet.

The Nasdaq Composite stock market index, which included many Internet-based companies, peaked in value on March 10, 2000 before crashing. The burst of the bubble, known as the dot-com crash, lasted from March 11, 2000 to October 9, 2002

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Dot-com bubble

The dot-com bubble (also known as the dot-com boom, the tech bubble, and the Internet bubble) was a historic economic bubble and period of excessive speculation that occurred roughly from 1995 to 2000, a period of extreme growth in the usage and adaptation of the Internet.

The Nasdaq Composite stock market index, which included many Internet-based companies, peaked in value on March 10, 2000 before crashing. The burst of the bubble, known as the dot-com crash, lasted from March 11, 2000 to October 9, 2002

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Fertility rates in Greece, that is, the average number of children Greek women have, dipped from 1.5 to about 1.3 during its eight-year economic crisis (2008-2016), the International Monetary Fund (IMF) said in its World Economic Outlook, issued on Wednesday.

The economic crisis has left its mark on the global economy, as growth rates and debt remain high 10 years after the financial crisis of 2008, while fertility rates have worsened in many countries, the Fund notes.
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Flaunt your wealth, or “falling stars,” has become an online craze in China. Posing in bizarre situations as if tripping from their luxury cars, rich kids are jostling to be photographed surrounded by their money, designer brands and jewelry.
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our information era generally is prompting ourselves to notice ourselves more easily

maybe

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Driving a nice car and taking trips when chained to 500K of debt at 28, only offers the 'illusion of wealth'.

You all need to stop fooling yourselves.

FB facilitated the 'Keeping up with the Jones' philosophy.


It's all debt here.

We are at tipping point.


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A Foolish Take: Here's how much debt the average U.S. household owes

The average American household carries $137,063 in debt, according to the Federal Reserve's latest numbers.

Yet the U.S. Census Bureau reports that the median household income was just $59,039 last year, suggesting that many Americans are living beyond their means.

Here's how much debt the average U.S. household owes in credit cards, auto loans, student loans, and mortgages.

[link to www.usatoday.com (secure)]


This Is How Much Debt the Average American Has Now—at Every Age

Total household debt—a category that includes mortgages, student loans, and car loans along with credit card and other debt—dipped in the wake of the Great Recession, but it has since steadily rebounded in the years since. Overall, Americans’ debt hit a new high of $13 trillion last year, surpassing the previous record set in 2008 by $280 billion, according to the New York Fed.

Under 35: $67,400
35–44: $133,100
45–54: $134,600
55–64: $108,300
65–74: $66,000
75 and up: $34,500

[link to time.com]

The average U.S. household debt continues to rise

So, what do the numbers look like? According to recent data compiled by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, total credit card balances amounted to $784 billion in the second quarter of 2017 — a $20 billion increase from the previous quarter.

Indeed, the cost of living has been rising — but wages haven’t kept up. As of 2014, median income plummeted by 13 percent from 2004 levels while expenditures increased by nearly 14 percent.

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50 million American households can’t even afford basic living expenses

Some 50.8 million households or 43% of households can’t afford a basic monthly budget for housing, food, transportation, child care, health care and a monthly smartphone bill, according to an analysis of U.S. government data released this month by the United Way Alice Project, a nonprofit based in Cedar Knolls, N.J. that aims to highlight the number of people who live in poverty.

The project uses standardized measurements to calculate the “bare bones” household budget in each county in each state. It maintains that the federal poverty level — currently $25,100 for a family of four — doesn’t accurately illustrate the number of people living in poverty because it doesn’t take into account the dramatically different costs of living across the U.S.

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Sure, Unemployment Went Down - Because More People Left The Workforce

The number of jobs increased by 164,000 in April. But the number of unemployed dropped by 239,000 between March and April.

That is why the employment-population ratio — the percentage of all people of working age (16 and up, including people who have stopped looking for work) that are employed — dropped from 60.4% to 60.3%. More people disappeared from the labor rolls.
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People can't afford to die in this country.

Today, the average North American traditional funeral costs between $7,000 and $10,000. This price range includes the services at the funeral home, burial in a cemetery, and the installation of a headstone

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Average cost of American wedding.
We just released the 10th annual The Knot 2016 Real Weddings Study, and that means it’s time to talk wedding costs and spending trends. After surveying nearly 13,000 real brides and grooms across America, we found that the overall cost of a wedding has soared to new heights, with a national average of $35,329 (and that’s not including the honeymoon).
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Average cost of preschool

Most preschool fees are comparable to the high prices charged by daycare centers. Depending on where you live and the quality of the preschool, average costs range from $4,460 to $13,158 per year ($372 to $1,100 monthly), according to the National Association of Child Care Resource & Referral Agencies (NACCRRA).


A Look at the Shocking Student Loan Debt Statistics for 2017
It’s 2017 and Americans are more burdened by student loan debt than ever.

You’ve probably heard the statistics: Americans owe over $1.4 trillion in student loan debt, spread out among about 44 million borrowers. That’s about $620 billion more than the total U.S. credit card debt. In fact, the average Class of 2016 graduate has $37,172 in student loan debt, up six percent from last year.

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The Average Cost of One Bedroom Apartments in 50 Major U.S. Cities
[link to mentalfloss.com]
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...


Using these average figures...

An engaged couple graduating college, will bring a combined debt of near $80,000. Average wedding is $35,000?

How? Median price of a house...$320,000.

Unbelievable.


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Millenials causing a baby-bust
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Why are almost half of Japan's millennials still virgins?
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It's all connected.

Europe needs many more babies to avert a population disaster
Across Europe birth rates are tumbling. The net effect is a ‘perfect demographic storm’ that will imperil economic growth across the continent
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America's Real Economy: It Isn't Booming

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hiding
 Quoting: Armed Snowflake


From link..

Fewer and fewer people have savings to weather time between jobs or an emergency expense. A third of the U.S. population has no savings and another third has saved less than $1,000. Two-thirds of American households, by this measure, are desperately scrambling to make ends meet from check to check. Nearly half the American population earns too little to live on comfortably:

One-third of all workers earn less than $12 an hour and 42% earn less than $15. That’s $24,960 and $31,200 a year. Imagine raising a family on such incomes, figuring in the cost of food, rent, childcare, car payments (since a car is often a necessity simply to get to a job in a country with inadequate public transportation), and medical costs.


Even in households that combine income from two wage-earners, it’s rarely enough to live on without anxieties about money.

It takes an average of a little more than $100,000 per year now for a household to be able to live without anxieties about money.

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Because mainstream and social media have redefined "comfort" living so that no middle income family can keep up without living in debt through credit. They want you to believe $200/mo on your cable package is necessary. That your kids all need iPads and cell phones by the time they're 10. Ect ect. This is ALL to get people in more and more credit debt, and families on anxiety meds.
 Quoting: duFontaine.

Get rid of the cable, cell phones, and $500+ car payments, you can live quite well on the average mean salary of $55k.
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Having cable, a cell phone, and a car payment, is no measure of wealth.

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Thread: Richest getting richer: Wealth of world’s billionaires surges 20 percent in 2017

A joint report by UBS and PWC showed that world’s billionaires’ wealth enjoyed its greatest-ever increase last year, hitting $8.9 trillion shared among 2,158 individuals.

“The past 30 years have seen far greater wealth creation than the Gilded Age” the report said. “That period bred generations of families in the US and Europe who went on to influence business, banking, politics, philanthropy and the arts for more than 100 years. With wealth set to pass from entrepreneurs to their heirs in the coming years, the 21st century multi-generational families are being created.”

More than 40 of the 179 new billionaires created last year inherited their wealth, the report said. “A major wealth transition has begun. Over the past five years, the sum passed by deceased billionaires to beneficiaries has grown by an average of 17 percent each year, to reach $117 billion in 2017. In that year alone, 44 heirs inherited more than a billion dollars each.”

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This has to stop or nobody but them will have any money left.

Such greedy and selfish people. They couldn't spend all that money in many lifetimes. They don't need to have so much when so much of the world is in poverty and average workers can barely support themselves.
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To Western writers, in the 1940s, it became bound up with an idea of aggressive, "frustrated nationalism", which was seen as "intrinsically anti- or non-Western"; sociologist Frank Furedi wrote, "The already existing intellectual assessment of European nationalism adapted to the growth of the Third World variety by developing the couplet of mature Western versus immature Eastern nationalism.... This East-West dichotomy became an accepted part of Western political theory.
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we are not them
in our 21st global information culture feedback prompts noticing similarities of global emotional boundaries created by our emotional ancestors
as example
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Thread: Richest getting richer: Wealth of world’s billionaires surges 20 percent in 2017

A joint report by UBS and PWC showed that world’s billionaires’ wealth enjoyed its greatest-ever increase last year, hitting $8.9 trillion shared among 2,158 individuals.

“The past 30 years have seen far greater wealth creation than the Gilded Age” the report said. “That period bred generations of families in the US and Europe who went on to influence business, banking, politics, philanthropy and the arts for more than 100 years. With wealth set to pass from entrepreneurs to their heirs in the coming years, the 21st century multi-generational families are being created.”

More than 40 of the 179 new billionaires created last year inherited their wealth, the report said. “A major wealth transition has begun. Over the past five years, the sum passed by deceased billionaires to beneficiaries has grown by an average of 17 percent each year, to reach $117 billion in 2017. In that year alone, 44 heirs inherited more than a billion dollars each.”

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This has to stop or nobody but them will have any money left.

Such greedy and selfish people. They couldn't spend all that money in many lifetimes. They don't need to have so much when so much of the world is in poverty and average workers can barely support themselves.
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there is this to

To Western writers, in the 1940s, it became bound up with an idea of aggressive, "frustrated nationalism", which was seen as "intrinsically anti- or non-Western"; sociologist Frank Furedi wrote, "The already existing intellectual assessment of European nationalism adapted to the growth of the Third World variety by developing the couplet of mature Western versus immature Eastern nationalism.... This East-West dichotomy became an accepted part of Western political theory.
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we are not them
in our 21st global information culture feedback prompts noticing similarities of global emotional boundaries created by our emotional ancestors
as example
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the race of races prompts win at all cost
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good video we have our head around it