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Channelers are not born equal; some are stronger in the Power and can handle more of it than others. Men and women who can channel are different in this respect and in many others, regarding the One Power. For example, male channellers can on average channel more of the Power than female channelers, similar to the gendered difference in physical strength.

Channelers must always be careful, as the One Power is dangerous. Besides providing an addictive stimulating effect, channelers who draw too much of the Power into themselves can kill themselves or render themselves brain-dead. If they are lucky--relatively speaking--they will only burn the ability to channel out of themselves, leaving them unable to channel ever again.

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"Of four who have the inborn ability that you [Nynaeve] and Egwene have, three die if we do not find them and train them.

It is not as horrible a death as the men die, but neither is it pretty, if any death can be called so. Convulsions. Screaming. It takes days, and once it begins, there is nothing that can be done to stop it, not by all the Aes Sedai in Tar Valon together."

-Moiraine to Nynaeve


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The blue aes sedai were awesome imo.

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I'm looking forward to reading them. Thanks for the links. I saw you post them in a different thread. I sat on them, for days.

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Wilders

A wilder is a collective term for women who have learned to channel the One Power on their own, without formal education or particular skill. It can be a derogatory term, especially when used by certain Aes Sedai who went to the White Tower to train, although at other times it is simply used as a descriptor. The term has not been used for men in living memory, as all men who can channel have been doomed to go insane from the taint on saidin, obviating any need for a formal instruction program, until recently.

Women who can channel fall into two categories; women who can be taught, and a far smaller group of women with the spark who will start to touch the saidar instinctively, whether they want to or not. Those of the latter group who survive this learning curve, approximately one in four, are called "wilders" if they do not seek out training once they discover what is happening.

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One Power

"The One Power comes from the True Source, the driving force of creation, the force the Creator made to turn the Wheel of Time. Saidin, the male half of the True Source, and saidar, the female half, work against each other, and at the same time together to provide that force.

Saidin is fouled by the touch of the Dark One, like water with a thin slick of rancid oil floating on top. The water is still pure, but it cannot be touched without touching the foulness. Only saidar is still safe to be used...
The True Source cannot be used up, any more than the river can be used up by the wheel of the mill. The Source is the river; the Aes Sedai, the waterwheel."
-Moiraine Damodred

The One Power emanates from the True Source, which is made up of two complementary parts: saidin, the male half, and saidar, the female half. People who can wield it are called channelers.

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Not everyone has the ability to "channel," or access, the One Power. Most have none at all, and some only have the ability to be taught, to one degree or another. But a few channelers are born with "the spark," an innate inclination that will lead them to touch the Source whether they wish to or not.

These untrained channelers, sometimes referred to as wilders often die without ever gaining control over their innate ability by a strange sickness; some research indicates the mortality rate for untrained channelers is 75% or more. Often, however the survival comes with a price; wilders may not even know they are using the One Power to do things. They just know that sometimes, "things happen" when they want them badly enough.

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I'm looking forward to reading them. Thanks for the links. I saw you post them in a different thread. I sat on them, for days.

Timing is everything.
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Agreed. cheers

You've done more for me than you'll ever know.

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Greetings Seer,
How goes the latest strain of 'insight triple seven' otherwise known as ITS. The latest in home grown herbal products from the Omega Wily production house.
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hi Chris

Things are well enough. Enjoying seeing how all these things are fitting together, now that I have time to look.

The Ta'veren angle makes sense to me, and has since when another mentioned it.


Trying to get a bunch of cleaning done and may watch something light-hearted here shortly.

Maybe Gravity Falls again. Super clever show.


Have you seen it?
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hi Chris

Things are well enough. Enjoying seeing how all these things are fitting together, now that I have time to look.

The Ta'veren angle makes sense to me, and has since when another mentioned it.


Trying to get a bunch of cleaning done and may watch something light-hearted here shortly.

Maybe Gravity Falls again. Super clever show.


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I have not seen the show now but Darrah has written about it a couple of times from memory. I might have to check it out after all. I was reading that in some places a fair bit of the show is censored and even a character was removed so the people watching the show, see a very different version of it.
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I believe it will be both. One will manifest the other, just as the other manifests the one.

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Always both...

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^^

Anyone else get a creepy feeling up the back of their neck while they watched these.. with the whole 'wall and migrant caravan' thing currently happening?

I know I did.

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Nice!

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Nice!

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cheers

YouTube suggestion yesterday. Thought it went perfectly.

Wilders---Wildlings

Night King--Fremen?
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Doesn't Paul become a terrible tyrant that commits genocide and war on several planets?

Return of the Lich King?

The Night King.

Blue within blue eyes.

It's up to his son, Leto to set it right. By merging with the worm.


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Doesn't Paul become a terrible tyrant that commits genocide and war on several planets?

Return of the Lich King?

The Night King.

Blue within blue eyes.

It's up to his son, Leto to set it right. By merging with the worm.


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"The bottom line of the Dune trilogy is: beware of heroes. Much better rely on your own judgment, and your own mistakes."

is what came across..

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The sandworms in Dune were inspired by the dragons of European mythology that guard some sort of treasure. Favorites of Herbert included the dragon in Beowulf which guarded a hoard of gold, and the dragon of Colchis which guarded the Golden Fleece from Jason.
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ADAM is a substance harvested and processed from a type of Sea Slug.
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A Guild Navigator was a senior rank of artificially super evolved humans within the Spacing Guild, and for many Guildsmen the pinnacle of their ambitions. Mutated through the consumption of and exposure to massive amounts of the spice Melange, Navigators are able to use a mentally conditioned and trained form of prescience to safely navigate interstellar and galactic space in long range starships called Heighliners.
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Norma Cevna

The exiles reached Tupile where Norma devoted her time to the design of hyperspace ships. She was also the first pilot to experiment with the use of melange in ship steering. Leone taught her the ways of the Bene Gesserit, through which Norma would realize the navigational potential of spice-trance prescience. The computer could be replaced with a spice-heightened brain. Venport was skeptical about Leona and discouraged Cevna's association with the "witch".
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Everyone needs it, everyone wants it..


Spice Melange

Effects on those who consume melange are outlined below:

Mind altering: it could awaken dormant parts of the human mind and encourage expanded sensory perceptions. In some humans (notably the Bene Gesserit, Guild Navigators, and some members of the Atreides bloodline), heavy doses led to powerful abilities that include prescience;

Health benefits: taken regularly it increased life expectancy and fortified over all health levels (in many cases life expectancy was tripled);

Addictiveness: the spice had narcotic properties, thus increasing demand and creating a large and hungry market for it. An individual's addiction to the spice would worsen the more they consumed it.

Physical effects: sustained use of the spice led to human eyes being discolored so that the entire eye would be stained blue - so called Eyes of Ibad. Extensive exposure to the spice created a huge physical dependency that could radically alter the entire body (see Guild navigators).

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Kwisatz Haderach

Kwisatz Haderach was a term used primarily by the Bene Gesserit. It was an old Chakobsa term that translated literally as "Shortening of the Way".

The Bene Gesserit desire to uncover this knowledge and its associated powers drove them to initiate a long-running genetic breeding program that would yield a male with mental powers capable of bridging space and time, and that he would be under direct control of the Sisterhood. The Bene Gesserit knew that, not only would their Kwisatz Haderach possess Other Memory on both the male and female side, but that he would be able to predict the future precisely. He would be Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, Mentat, and Guild Navigator, all in one being.

After the emergence of this male - Paul Atreides - the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once", and became synonymous with Paul.

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hmm


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Spoiler


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Save the desert..

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The Magicians is great. Highly recommend. Seasons 1&2 are on Netflix.

I've been binging on something a bit more lighthearted for the last few weeks. It's cheesy, but also really exciting. Watching people do their absolute best and then fail or succeed, and everything between, is quite entertaining. Plus they are all super unique and creative people.

Good stuff..


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I didn't think it was possible to like this show even more. Ha. One thing I noticed about the British bakers is they are all really humble. It is refreshing.
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I was attempting to find a clip of Ember, and him 'fouling the Wellspring' and what came of that.

However, that Twitter link was all I could find.


How it caused harm all around. And the end of Magic..


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Taint

The Dark One tainted saidin as a counterstroke to the acts of Lews Therin Telamon and the Hundred Companions. In their daring attack, the Bore was sealed using saidin, but because saidin was touched to the Dark One in closing the gap, he was able to inflict a taint on it. The taint placed on saidin instantly drove all members of the Hundred Companions mad, and doomed all other male channelers to insanity and slow death. All the ancient male Aes Sedai eventually went mad and tore the world apart, causing the Breaking and ending the Age of Legends.

The taint is described as being like an "oily slick" surrounding the "clear water" that is saidin. Saidin in and of itself remains pure, but in order to reach it one must mentally reach through the taint. The first time Rand attempted to seize saidin he "felt the taint inside of him" and it nearly made him sick.

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The Dark One

The Dark One is a primordial, sapient, cosmic force of evil in the universe. The Dark One's goal is to break the spirits and hearts of whatever sapient beings he can influence, and, if freed from his prison, eventually to remake Creation in his own image.

His actions appear to indicate that he is also a force of chaos, destruction, and discord, as many of his underlings, as well as Shaidar Haran, seemed to place a great deal of emphasis on increasing the amount of chaos in the world at any opportunity.

His existence is revealed to be an integral part of human free will, as his malign influence encourages humanity to make selfish choices. If destroyed, humans (and likely other sapient beings) would possibly become completely incapable of evil, violence, or selfishness in any respect.

He is said to have been imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time in a separate dimension outside of normal reality, and outside of the pattern, and has sought ever since to break free of his prison and destroy the Wheel of Time and remake the world according to his image and purpose, or alternatively, to destroy creation completely. He is currently imprisoned.

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The Dark One

The Dark One is a primordial, sapient, cosmic force of evil in the universe. The Dark One's goal is to break the spirits and hearts of whatever sapient beings he can influence, and, if freed from his prison, eventually to remake Creation in his own image.

His actions appear to indicate that he is also a force of chaos, destruction, and discord, as many of his underlings, as well as Shaidar Haran, seemed to place a great deal of emphasis on increasing the amount of chaos in the world at any opportunity.

His existence is revealed to be an integral part of human free will, as his malign influence encourages humanity to make selfish choices. If destroyed, humans (and likely other sapient beings) would possibly become completely incapable of evil, violence, or selfishness in any respect.

He is said to have been imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time in a separate dimension outside of normal reality, and outside of the pattern, and has sought ever since to break free of his prison and destroy the Wheel of Time and remake the world according to his image and purpose, or alternatively, to destroy creation completely. He is currently imprisoned.

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cont..

..the Dark One is described as being powerful beyond measure; a universe-spanning force of evil that is both incomprehensible in its nature and infinite in its being.

His presence is described as being beyond space, size, and time, and his essence is said to be utterly empty, yet infinite.

Though the Dark One is beyond the concept of time, he is constrained by it in his interactions with the Pattern simply because it is an integral part of reality. The situation is described as being akin to an artist's imagination exceeding the limits of the material they have to work with.

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The Dark One

The Dark One is a primordial, sapient, cosmic force of evil in the universe. The Dark One's goal is to break the spirits and hearts of whatever sapient beings he can influence, and, if freed from his prison, eventually to remake Creation in his own image.

His actions appear to indicate that he is also a force of chaos, destruction, and discord, as many of his underlings, as well as Shaidar Haran, seemed to place a great deal of emphasis on increasing the amount of chaos in the world at any opportunity.

His existence is revealed to be an integral part of human free will, as his malign influence encourages humanity to make selfish choices. If destroyed, humans (and likely other sapient beings) would possibly become completely incapable of evil, violence, or selfishness in any respect.

He is said to have been imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time in a separate dimension outside of normal reality, and outside of the pattern, and has sought ever since to break free of his prison and destroy the Wheel of Time and remake the world according to his image and purpose, or alternatively, to destroy creation completely. He is currently imprisoned.

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cont..

..the Dark One is described as being powerful beyond measure; a universe-spanning force of evil that is both incomprehensible in its nature and infinite in its being.

His presence is described as being beyond space, size, and time, and his essence is said to be utterly empty, yet infinite.

Though the Dark One is beyond the concept of time, he is constrained by it in his interactions with the Pattern simply because it is an integral part of reality. The situation is described as being akin to an artist's imagination exceeding the limits of the material they have to work with.

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IntotheDarkenss
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cont..

Verin Sedai has noted the Dark One is the "embodiment of paradox and chaos, destroyer of reason and logic, breaker of balance, the unmaker of order".

She also states that, while she believes she understands the Forsaken, she has no idea what the Dark One's goal is, what he wants, or even what he is. Moridin has stated that the Dark One's eventual goal will not be to destroy reality and remake it, but rather to simply destroy everything.

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Choronzon

Choronzon is deemed to be held in check by the power of the goddess Babalon, inhabitant of binah, the third sephirah of the Tree of Life. Both Choronzon and the abyss are discussed in Crowley's Confessions (ch. 66):

"The name of the Dweller in the Abyss is Choronzon, but he is not really an individual. The Abyss is empty of being; it is filled with all possible forms, each equally inane, each therefore evil in the only true sense of the word—that is, meaningless but malignant, in so far as it craves to become real. These forms swirl senselessly into haphazard heaps like dust devils, and each such chance aggregation asserts itself to be an individual and shrieks, "I am I!" though aware all the time that its elements have no true bond; so that the slightest disturbance dissipates the delusion just as a horseman, meeting a dust devil, brings it in showers of sand to the earth."

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Are all these authors just borrowing from each other, or are all these themes telling the same story for a reason?
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I could happily spend a nondescript amount of time in Oblivion. Perfect peace sounds like it feels.

Felt like a well of souls all meshed together. Heavy and vast. Sat like water sits. Flat but with volume.

No pain there. No thoughts. Just weight and sensation and a very vague sense of awareness. But only, just.



Did you watch True Detective? He nearly word for word described Oblivion like I have been for years.


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sorting out your afterlife in your present life seems to be the theme
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The oblivion I am talking about now, is different than the oblivion I felt come over me in meditation while awake.

If that is what comes after death, I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised. As they're fading out.
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no thing
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The oblivion I am talking about now, is different than the oblivion I felt come over me in meditation while awake.

If that is what comes after death, I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised. As they're fading out.
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It is definitely a thing.

Imagine it being like in the womb, without the abilty to hear anything, bump into anything and just surrounded by a perfect environment with no awareness that anything other than..exists.

True peace.

At the funeral, the pastor mentioned Heaven and how there will be no pain and no tears..and all I could think..that's Oblivion.

Some people who have died and come back, said they felt 'God's Love'. That's what it is. Never-ending, that. But it's dark. Like the womb.
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The oblivion I am talking about now, is different than the oblivion I felt come over me in meditation while awake.

If that is what comes after death, I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised. As they're fading out.
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It is definitely a thing.

Imagine it being like in the womb, without the abilty to hear anything, bump into anything and just surrounded by a perfect environment with no awareness that anything other than..exists.

True peace.

At the funeral, the pastor mentioned Heaven and how there will be no pain and no tears..and all I could think..that's Oblivion.

Some people who have died and come back, said they felt 'God's Love'. That's what it is. Never-ending, that. But it's dark. Like the womb.
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that works
stay with womb experience death thought

nicely said
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It makes sense why people wouldn't want to come back here, after they get there.

I didn't and being separate from it, is something I have to live with.

Not that I am in any rush to get back. I enjoy life.

I get why people come back too. So many things to do and experience here.

There is an older guy on one of the seasons of the baking show and he has a goal to make every kind of bread in the world. Stuff like that.

The choices of how we spend our time.



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Supernatural presented The Darkness as female and God's sister.

She sees creation as cruel.


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