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Severing a person from the ability to channel is considered by most to be worse than death. A severed channeler can still feel saidin's or saidar's presence, but they can no longer seize or embrace it. It is often described to be as if part of the channeler itself has been cut away. In men, the experience of being severed is described as similar to castration.

Without the ecstasy of the One Power within themselves, those who are severed usually lose the will to live, and will often die of various direct causes connected to this.

Death after being severed is commonly caused by suicide, refusing to eat or drink, or simply becoming too weak to continue living.

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I overloaded my brain a few years ago and have since lost the ability to channel. It is every bit as described above in terms of there is a feeling of having something cut away. I do not see this thing that was cut away as anything more than training wheels though, however there are no books or guides on how to dream without a channel for creative influence.
In a sense it is like I have to create my own 'dream' now but I know they are my own illusion in a sense, ergo I know I am only acting to pass time and satisfy peoples expectations.

This can be seen as a loss or an opportunity. Obviously having the 'training' wheels off without knowing how to ride is frustrating but not the end of the world for me personally.
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I have large gaps in my memory, where I was overloaded with far too much, far too long, and entirely against my will, at the time.

That's why 'Chaos taking the crown' is myspeak for..under no circumstances do I allow that to occur or even get close to that line.

For any reason. Ever.


I haven't hated the ride but parts of it, I don't need to recall for forward movement.

I feel the energy almost all the time. Every day. I get breaks.

I have my lines and wrestle over them consciously.
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What is the nightmare you envision becoming reality if chaos were to so to speak take the crown?
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What is the nightmare you envision becoming reality if chaos were to so to speak take the crown?
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Chaos is total disillusion. Even the memory that any of this ever existed. For everyone.

Tempting I know..

The Dark One

The Dark One is a primordial, sapient, cosmic force of evil in the universe. The Dark One's goal is to break the spirits and hearts of whatever sapient beings he can influence, and, if freed from his prison, eventually to remake Creation in his own image.

His actions appear to indicate that he is also a force of chaos, destruction, and discord, as many of his underlings, as well as Shaidar Haran, seemed to place a great deal of emphasis on increasing the amount of chaos in the world at any opportunity.

His existence is revealed to be an integral part of human free will, as his malign influence encourages humanity to make selfish choices. If destroyed, humans (and likely other sapient beings) would possibly become completely incapable of evil, violence, or selfishness in any respect.

He is said to have been imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time in a separate dimension outside of normal reality, and outside of the pattern, and has sought ever since to break free of his prison and destroy the Wheel of Time and remake the world according to his image and purpose, or alternatively, to destroy creation completely. He is currently imprisoned.

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cont..

..the Dark One is described as being powerful beyond measure; a universe-spanning force of evil that is both incomprehensible in its nature and infinite in its being.

His presence is described as being beyond space, size, and time, and his essence is said to be utterly empty, yet infinite.

Though the Dark One is beyond the concept of time, he is constrained by it in his interactions with the Pattern simply because it is an integral part of reality. The situation is described as being akin to an artist's imagination exceeding the limits of the material they have to work with.

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cont..

Verin Sedai has noted the Dark One is the "embodiment of paradox and chaos, destroyer of reason and logic, breaker of balance, the unmaker of order".

She also states that, while she believes she understands the Forsaken, she has no idea what the Dark One's goal is, what he wants, or even what he is. Moridin has stated that the Dark One's eventual goal will not be to destroy reality and remake it, but rather to simply destroy everything.

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Choronzon

Choronzon is deemed to be held in check by the power of the goddess Babalon, inhabitant of binah, the third sephirah of the Tree of Life. Both Choronzon and the abyss are discussed in Crowley's Confessions (ch. 66):

"The name of the Dweller in the Abyss is Choronzon, but he is not really an individual. The Abyss is empty of being; it is filled with all possible forms, each equally inane, each therefore evil in the only true sense of the word—that is, meaningless but malignant, in so far as it craves to become real. These forms swirl senselessly into haphazard heaps like dust devils, and each such chance aggregation asserts itself to be an individual and shrieks, "I am I!" though aware all the time that its elements have no true bond; so that the slightest disturbance dissipates the delusion just as a horseman, meeting a dust devil, brings it in showers of sand to the earth."

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Are all these authors just borrowing from each other, or are all these themes telling the same story for a reason?
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The Dark One

The Dark One is a primordial, sapient, cosmic force of evil in the universe. The Dark One's goal is to break the spirits and hearts of whatever sapient beings he can influence, and, if freed from his prison, eventually to remake Creation in his own image.

His actions appear to indicate that he is also a force of chaos, destruction, and discord, as many of his underlings, as well as Shaidar Haran, seemed to place a great deal of emphasis on increasing the amount of chaos in the world at any opportunity.

His existence is revealed to be an integral part of human free will, as his malign influence encourages humanity to make selfish choices. If destroyed, humans (and likely other sapient beings) would possibly become completely incapable of evil, violence, or selfishness in any respect.

He is said to have been imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time in a separate dimension outside of normal reality, and outside of the pattern, and has sought ever since to break free of his prison and destroy the Wheel of Time and remake the world according to his image and purpose, or alternatively, to destroy creation completely. He is currently imprisoned.

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Supernatural presented The Darkness as female and God's sister.

She sees creation as cruel.


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If I turned that idea on its head, we might get Kali. You say darkness, but there are many ideas of dark. Recently I learned that the idea of the left-handed being associated with evil is intimately linked to feminine power, the sea or womb that is the mother to eternity. Babylon's typhon. Her children kill her and drink her blood, but in the end their blood is the seed from which she emerges.

With Kali, they see her as ending the currents of time, as if cutting off heads with a sword. But to her worshipers, the head was merely an illusion from which she had freed them from. Kali comes from beyond time - and she is the mother because she is the darkness into which everything can be absorbed. There is nothing she will not digest or integrate.

She is known as a goddess of death and destruction, but there is no evidence she was intended to be seen as such. She freed space for reorganization and rebirth. She also provided a way out for those who looked beyond all pretense.



“And, indeed, he soon discovered what a strange Goddess he had chosen to serve. He became gradually enmeshed in the web of Her all-pervading presence. To the ignorant She is, to be sure, the image of destruction; but he found in Her the benign, all-loving Mother. Her neck is encircled with a garland of heads, and Her waist with a girdle of human arms, and two of Her hands hold weapons of death, and Her eyes dart a glance of fire; but, strangely enough, Ramakrishna felt in Her breath the soothing touch of tender love and saw in Her the Seed of Immortality. She stands on the bosom of Her Consort, Siva; it is because She is the Sakti, the Power, inseparable from the Absolute. She is surrounded by jackals and other unholy creatures, the denizens of the cremation ground. But is not the Ultimate Reality above holiness and unholiness? She appears to be reeling under the spell of wine. But who would create this mad world unless under the influence of a divine drunkenness? She is the highest symbol of all the forces of nature, the synthesis of their antinomies, the Ultimate Divine in the form of woman. She now became to Sri Ramakrishna the only Reality, and the world became an unsubstantial shadow. Into Her worship he poured his soul. Before him She stood as the transparent portal to the shrine of Ineffable Reality.” (From The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna.)
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of course, to worship Kali is an inversion of everything humanity tends to advocate. she is saturn, time, the ultimate force of inevitability, but she is also the mother of all, giver of life and compassion. it seems fine and simple if chaos were just a ravenous beast, but the dragon is only one part of the picture. the other half is truly dark, because it is unseen, yet the force which pervades the all. only those beyond babylon, the gate to the gods, understood this.

she stands upon all things mankind reviles as omens of death, and she destroys the destroyer, death itself, consigning it to an illusion no greater than that of life.

we enter through the womb out of the gate of birth, and enter back into the the womb through the gate of death. remember that video where death was a mother? she rocks her child to sleep.

I think Kali has probably resigned herself to being seen as the paragon of female wickedness, but that is the paradox of her holiness.
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If I turned that idea on its head, we might get Kali. You say darkness, but there are many ideas of dark. Recently I learned that the idea of the left-handed being associated with evil is intimately linked to feminine power, the sea or womb that is the mother to eternity. Babylon's typhon. Her children kill her and drink her blood, but in the end their blood is the seed from which she emerges.

With Kali, they see her as ending the currents of time, as if cutting off heads with a sword. But to her worshipers, the head was merely an illusion from which she had freed them from. Kali comes from beyond time - and she is the mother because she is the darkness into which everything can be absorbed. There is nothing she will not digest or integrate.

She is known as a goddess of death and destruction, but there is no evidence she was intended to be seen as such. She freed space for reorganization and rebirth. She also provided a way out for those who looked beyond all pretense.



“And, indeed, he soon discovered what a strange Goddess he had chosen to serve. He became gradually enmeshed in the web of Her all-pervading presence. To the ignorant She is, to be sure, the image of destruction; but he found in Her the benign, all-loving Mother. Her neck is encircled with a garland of heads, and Her waist with a girdle of human arms, and two of Her hands hold weapons of death, and Her eyes dart a glance of fire; but, strangely enough, Ramakrishna felt in Her breath the soothing touch of tender love and saw in Her the Seed of Immortality. She stands on the bosom of Her Consort, Siva; it is because She is the Sakti, the Power, inseparable from the Absolute. She is surrounded by jackals and other unholy creatures, the denizens of the cremation ground. But is not the Ultimate Reality above holiness and unholiness? She appears to be reeling under the spell of wine. But who would create this mad world unless under the influence of a divine drunkenness? She is the highest symbol of all the forces of nature, the synthesis of their antinomies, the Ultimate Divine in the form of woman. She now became to Sri Ramakrishna the only Reality, and the world became an unsubstantial shadow. Into Her worship he poured his soul. Before him She stood as the transparent portal to the shrine of Ineffable Reality.” (From The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna.)
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of course, to worship Kali is an inversion of everything humanity tends to advocate. she is saturn, time, the ultimate force of inevitability, but she is also the mother of all, giver of life and compassion. it seems fine and simple if chaos were just a ravenous beast, but the dragon is only one part of the picture. the other half is truly dark, because it is unseen, yet the force which pervades the all. only those beyond babylon, the gate to the gods, understood this.

she stands upon all things mankind reviles as omens of death, and she destroys the destroyer, death itself, consigning it to an illusion no greater than that of life.

we enter through the womb out of the gate of birth, and enter back into the the womb through the gate of death. remember that video where death was a mother? she rocks her child to sleep.

I think Kali has probably resigned herself to being seen as the paragon of female wickedness, but that is the paradox of her holiness.
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I started Adventure Time.


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I started Adventure Time.


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lol

I've yet to watch adventure time, or gravity falls. Seen clips of both, but not the series.

How are they? Both certainly drew a huge following.

Hearing "morty" there gave me a laugh chuckle
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I started Adventure Time.


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lol

I've yet to watch adventure time, or gravity falls. Seen clips of both, but not the series.

How are they? Both certainly drew a huge following.

Hearing "morty" there gave me a laugh chuckle
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Gravity Falls is excellent. I am already on a second watch through. Genuinely laugh out loud funny and continually. At least for me. I like that kind of humor.

Weirdmageddon been theme ever since.



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I started Adventure Time.


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lol

I've yet to watch adventure time, or gravity falls. Seen clips of both, but not the series.

How are they? Both certainly drew a huge following.

Hearing "morty" there gave me a laugh chuckle
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Gravity Falls is excellent. I am already on a second watch through. Genuinely laugh out loud funny and continually. At least for me. I like that kind of humor.

Weirdmageddon been theme ever since.



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The parts I've seen are right up my alley.

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Bubbles of evil were first mentioned by Moiraine Damodred, who speaks of the Dark One's evil in the form of "bubbles rising from the things rotting on the bottom of a pond."[1] The bubbles attach themselves to threads in the pattern and burst causing supernatural and typically deadly events to occur. Moiraine thinks perhaps ta'veren will tend to attract these bubbles more powerfully than others do.

Funny how earlier you mention if all these creators read the same book/source material. Many overlapping themes/ideas.

Makes one ponder how they come to similar ideas (discounting just outright idea stealing).

100th monkey effect? Dna memories? A common source we all reach into for inspiration (the artist possessed by the brush)
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It's creepy how it all fits together. For example, I learned of the Sul'dam yesterday.

After feeling physically ill for almost an hour, I'm hoping every single one was eventually hunted down and slaughtered. A fitting end to any that hold another, against their will.


Sul'dam (Old Tongue: Leash Holder) are Seanchan women who can control damane, women who can channel the One Power and are viewed as too dangerous to roam free in society. Sul'dam control damane through the use of an a'dam, a special ter'angreal that looks like a silver leash and bracelet. Using the a'dam, the sul'dam can sense the thoughts and feelings of the damane and also inflict pain or pleasure. When damane try to escape their a'dam, they undergo severe headaches that vanish when they stop thinking of escaping.


In reality, sul'dam are women who could learn to channel but are not born with the spark like damane are. Only recently has this fact come to light, and threatens to tear apart the fabric of Seanchan society, as sul'dam are honored at the same time damane are reviled. An a'dam will control a sul'dam if used against her, even if she does not know how to use the One Power.

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A'dam

An a'dam (pronounced: AYE-dam) is a ter'angreal designed to hold a female channeler captive. It takes the form of a flexible silver collar and bracelet, usually joined by a long "leash" although that convention is not strictly necessary to its functioning. They form a basis for the "leashed channeler" social status in the Seanchan Empire; the leashed woman is called a damane ("Leashed one"), and the women who holds the bracelet a sul'dam ("Leash holder")
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It's creepy how it all fits together. For example, I learned of the Sul'dam yesterday.

After feeling physically ill for almost an hour, I'm hoping every single one was eventually hunted down and slaughtered. A fitting end to any that hold another, against their will.


Sul'dam (Old Tongue: Leash Holder) are Seanchan women who can control damane, women who can channel the One Power and are viewed as too dangerous to roam free in society. Sul'dam control damane through the use of an a'dam, a special ter'angreal that looks like a silver leash and bracelet. Using the a'dam, the sul'dam can sense the thoughts and feelings of the damane and also inflict pain or pleasure. When damane try to escape their a'dam, they undergo severe headaches that vanish when they stop thinking of escaping.


In reality, sul'dam are women who could learn to channel but are not born with the spark like damane are. Only recently has this fact come to light, and threatens to tear apart the fabric of Seanchan society, as sul'dam are honored at the same time damane are reviled. An a'dam will control a sul'dam if used against her, even if she does not know how to use the One Power.

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Heh, that becomes a matter of consternation among the groups organised against the dark ones armies.
Compounding the issue was many factors, some as simple/complicated as some damane reacting with horror at the prospect of release, particularly those native to the empire. Conditioning and "social norms" convinced them off their inherent "evil".

Aes sedai/Wilders captured were more resilient, but the chapters on such a capture showcase the physical torment accompany the psychological (such as re-naming captives after pets)

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It's creepy how it all fits together. For example, I learned of the Sul'dam yesterday.

After feeling physically ill for almost an hour, I'm hoping every single one was eventually hunted down and slaughtered. A fitting end to any that hold another, against their will.


Sul'dam (Old Tongue: Leash Holder) are Seanchan women who can control damane, women who can channel the One Power and are viewed as too dangerous to roam free in society. Sul'dam control damane through the use of an a'dam, a special ter'angreal that looks like a silver leash and bracelet. Using the a'dam, the sul'dam can sense the thoughts and feelings of the damane and also inflict pain or pleasure. When damane try to escape their a'dam, they undergo severe headaches that vanish when they stop thinking of escaping.


In reality, sul'dam are women who could learn to channel but are not born with the spark like damane are. Only recently has this fact come to light, and threatens to tear apart the fabric of Seanchan society, as sul'dam are honored at the same time damane are reviled. An a'dam will control a sul'dam if used against her, even if she does not know how to use the One Power.

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Heh, that becomes a matter of consternation among the groups organised against the dark ones armies.
Compounding the issue was many factors, some as simple/complicated as some damane reacting with horror at the prospect of release, particularly those native to the empire. Conditioning and "social norms" convinced them off their inherent "evil".

Aes sedai/Wilders captured were more resilient, but the chapters on such a capture showcase the physical torment accompany the psychological (such as re-naming captives after pets)
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How did they get them on and how were they removed? They had to catch them?

I noticed they have one for males too.

Male A'dam

A similar ter'angreal exists to allow control of male channelers. It consists of a collar and two bracelets, in separate pieces, all made of black cuendillar. Though it has been referred to as an "a'dam for men," it should be noted that it dates from the Breaking Of The World, centuries before the a'dam was invented. This version of the device allows for far more control over the subject, but it requires two women to maintain that control as opposed to one.

If only a single woman attempts to use it, a high degree of possibility exists that the device will, given time, give the subject complete control over whomever is wearing the bracelet.

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Shielding is the act of blocking someone from the One Power, an incredibly useful tactic when a channeling foe needs to be subdued. A shielded person can still feel the Source, but is unable to touch it in any way.

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Unable to channel; they can be tied in weaves of air, or simply grabbed by soldiers.
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Dragon

"And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was as blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World.

And him they named Dragon."

-From Aleth nin Taerin alta Camora, The Breaking of the World. Author unknown, the Fourth Age
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The Dark One's counterstroke, however, rendered the 68 surviving Companions instantly mad. During the following years, they and all other male Aes Sedai broke the world

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The Last Battle was prophesied in several accounts of many people, the most central one being the Karaethon Cycle (The Prophecies of the Dragon), though other prophecies by different societies included their perspectives.

According to prophecy, if the Dark One had prevailed he would have escaped from his prison and remade all of time and space in his image. The forces of the prophecies did not include a clear, specific outcome to the Last Battle, specifics of this eventuality, and it has proven a subject of some debate between philosophers.

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In the Age of Legends, Aes Sedai researchers led by the critically acclaimed scholar Beidomon at the Collam Daan discovered a region of the Pattern with what appeared to be an undivided source of the One Power separate from the True Source. Initial research suggested that this energy could be used by either gender without many of the known limitations of the One Power .

An attempt was made to access this new energy source by boring a hole in the Pattern. The resulting explosion destroyed the Sharom of Collam Daan. What the researchers had found was actually the prison of the Dark One. The resulting hole is known as the Bore,

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So we have wildfires burning down the cities to the north and south of us. Where I live is like a tiny little green patch on a map of red fires. The freeways are closed and malibu is evacuating. The fire is literally boxing us in from either side. lmao

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The Dark One's counterstroke, however, rendered the 68 surviving Companions instantly mad. During the following years, they and all other male Aes Sedai broke the world

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The Last Battle was prophesied in several accounts of many people, the most central one being the Karaethon Cycle (The Prophecies of the Dragon), though other prophecies by different societies included their perspectives.

According to prophecy, if the Dark One had prevailed he would have escaped from his prison and remade all of time and space in his image. The forces of the prophecies did not include a clear, specific outcome to the Last Battle, specifics of this eventuality, and it has proven a subject of some debate between philosophers.

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So we have wildfires burning down the cities to the north and south of us. Where I live is like a tiny little green patch on a map of red fires. The freeways are closed and malibu is evacuating. The fire is literally boxing us in from either side. lmao
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The Dark One

The Dark One is a primordial, sapient, cosmic force of evil in the universe. The Dark One's goal is to break the spirits and hearts of whatever sapient beings he can influence, and, if freed from his prison, eventually to remake Creation in his own image.

His actions appear to indicate that he is also a force of chaos, destruction, and discord, as many of his underlings, as well as Shaidar Haran, seemed to place a great deal of emphasis on increasing the amount of chaos in the world at any opportunity.

His existence is revealed to be an integral part of human free will, as his malign influence encourages humanity to make selfish choices. If destroyed, humans (and likely other sapient beings) would possibly become completely incapable of evil, violence, or selfishness in any respect.

He is said to have been imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time in a separate dimension outside of normal reality, and outside of the pattern, and has sought ever since to break free of his prison and destroy the Wheel of Time and remake the world according to his image and purpose, or alternatively, to destroy creation completely. He is currently imprisoned.

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In the Age of Legends, Aes Sedai researchers led by the critically acclaimed scholar Beidomon at the Collam Daan discovered a region of the Pattern with what appeared to be an undivided source of the One Power separate from the True Source. Initial research suggested that this energy could be used by either gender without many of the known limitations of the One Power .

An attempt was made to access this new energy source by boring a hole in the Pattern. The resulting explosion destroyed the Sharom of Collam Daan. What the researchers had found was actually the prison of the Dark One. The resulting hole is known as the Bore,

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It's creepy how it all fits together. For example, I learned of the Sul'dam yesterday.

After feeling physically ill for almost an hour, I'm hoping every single one was eventually hunted down and slaughtered. A fitting end to any that hold another, against their will.


Sul'dam (Old Tongue: Leash Holder) are Seanchan women who can control damane, women who can channel the One Power and are viewed as too dangerous to roam free in society. Sul'dam control damane through the use of an a'dam, a special ter'angreal that looks like a silver leash and bracelet. Using the a'dam, the sul'dam can sense the thoughts and feelings of the damane and also inflict pain or pleasure. When damane try to escape their a'dam, they undergo severe headaches that vanish when they stop thinking of escaping.


In reality, sul'dam are women who could learn to channel but are not born with the spark like damane are. Only recently has this fact come to light, and threatens to tear apart the fabric of Seanchan society, as sul'dam are honored at the same time damane are reviled. An a'dam will control a sul'dam if used against her, even if she does not know how to use the One Power.

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Heh, that becomes a matter of consternation among the groups organised against the dark ones armies.
Compounding the issue was many factors, some as simple/complicated as some damane reacting with horror at the prospect of release, particularly those native to the empire. Conditioning and "social norms" convinced them off their inherent "evil".

Aes sedai/Wilders captured were more resilient, but the chapters on such a capture showcase the physical torment accompany the psychological (such as re-naming captives after pets)
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Egwene al'Vere

Her time spent as a Seanchan damane in Falme has caused her to have a deep hatred of them. This makes her quite narrow-minded where Seanchan are concerned. She loathed the feeling of powerlessness the a'dam gave her. She is believed to think Seanchan deserve to be treated as Darkfriends, or perhaps even worse.

Thoughts of her time in Falme can cause extreme panic, fear, and anger. The treatment she endured blinds her with rage whenever she encounters Seanchan.

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Forcing

Forcing is a technique used for training with the One Power (however it can also happen by accident) to grow stronger in its use, as long as the channelers reach their full potential. It is considered dangerous because it requires drawing more of the One Power than one can knowingly and safely handle. The benefit from this is that if the channelers are not destroyed or burned out by this process, they have quickly managed to increase their strength with the One Power.

Forcing is less dangerous for women under guidance of a fully trained female channeler, because it is possible for a trained woman to know the absolute limit of another woman's strength in the One Power. When caught as a damane by the Seanchan, Egwene al'Vere was forced, but it seems that the use of the a'dam is a safer way to preserve the forced damane from damage.

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In TGH, Egwene was trying to take it off of herself.

In WH, Mat takes it off of her, then she is no longer controlled by her a'dam and is able to take a'dam off of the others.

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It do not matter how dexterous he is, an a'dam look like it is one piece but it is not, if you know where the latch is anyone can remove it but the channeler chained by it. As long as Mat know where the latch is and how to open it he can easily do it.

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#BREAKING: The Western Town at Paramount Ranch, site of countless film shoots, including "Westworld," has burned, per @SantaMonicaMtns. Paramount Pictures bought the property in 1927 and it's been used as a shooting location since.
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So we have wildfires burning down the cities to the north and south of us. Where I live is like a tiny little green patch on a map of red fires. The freeways are closed and malibu is evacuating. The fire is literally boxing us in from either side. lmao
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#BREAKING: The Western Town at Paramount Ranch, site of countless film shoots, including "Westworld," has burned, per @SantaMonicaMtns. Paramount Pictures bought the property in 1927 and it's been used as a shooting location since.
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a bit paint it black
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I feel your judgement seer. but somehow I am safe.
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I feel your judgement seer. but somehow I am safe.
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are you disappointed? :\





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