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U.S. birth rate falls to its LOWEST in 35 years - and experts predict the 12-year 'baby bust' trend will continue because of COVID-19's impact on the economy

Aside from a one-year uptick in 2014, US births have been falling every year since 2007, when a recession hit the country. The drop continued even after the economy rebounded.

Prior to 2007, the fertility rate had remained consistently below replacement levels since 1971.

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No baby boom for you.

No intelligent people will breed slaves willingly.
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Im guessing I would be lumped in with the idiots. We both look at the same picture but I see the needle and you seem to miss it.

To me, being a student of history, this is where we are approaching a monumental hurdle ,which many will fail to pass, but what is on the other side is quite worthy of persistence. Even if I wasnt to make it.
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When I posted that about people choosing to get pregnant during these times..was 2 months ago. Are you planning a new pregnancy?

If no, why not?


I know why..same reason I don't.
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U.S. birth rate falls to its LOWEST in 35 years - and experts predict the 12-year 'baby bust' trend will continue because of COVID-19's impact on the economy

Aside from a one-year uptick in 2014, US births have been falling every year since 2007, when a recession hit the country. The drop continued even after the economy rebounded.

Prior to 2007, the fertility rate had remained consistently below replacement levels since 1971.

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No baby boom for you.

No intelligent people will breed slaves willingly.
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Im guessing I would be lumped in with the idiots. We both look at the same picture but I see the needle and you seem to miss it.

To me, being a student of history, this is where we are approaching a monumental hurdle ,which many will fail to pass, but what is on the other side is quite worthy of persistence. Even if I wasnt to make it.
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When I posted that about people choosing to get pregnant during these times..was 2 months ago. Are you planning a new pregnancy?

If no, why not?


I know why..same reason I don't.
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Times have always been " uncertain and unclear". However, I cannot use my own situation as a norm.

I cant even compare Canada to the States, as we are a fully socialized system.

Birth rates have more typically fallen off due to a percieved standard of living in the western world. There is also a question of declining fertility rates.

Now we will have mrna vaccines to contend with.
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collective liminal state
a kind of a waiting area on the threshold of change caused by the disruption of routines

feels like that outside my front door
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I haven't left my front porch more than 5 times..since January. Four of those times, were to buy beer at the local Chevron.

I haven't had to face the facemask world yet..and I'm not sure how I'll handle it, when and if I do.

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yes
what i wonder is when people experience that alien state outdoors what are those same people like back indoors to live with

i live alone so i don't have another human close to me to think about it thank goodness
remembering some of my guests over the years

imagine locked in with a dodgy one
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collective liminal state
a kind of a waiting area on the threshold of change caused by the disruption of routines

feels like that outside my front door
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Thread: Trump: “Outside of this 'artificial event' that took place 2 months ago”

thats funny
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I'm just really weirded out by the furiosity of those who have just accepted the new norm.

Masks to me, literally feels/looks like a burka.

One of the most disconcerting aspects I've seen, is how the papparazi are still following and taking pictures of celebrities, wearing masks.

You can't see their faces..but still the images are being taken and published. Often with bandanas or the like, that don't do a damn thing. Why are they wearing them?

Most the ads I see on different sites..are for different kinds of face masks that would do nothing other than cover the face.

I don't get it and it feels very dangerous, psychologically.
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you are not wrong you are right and you know how we got used to asians wearing masks on mass for pollution for decades all the way over there in their society

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If they were all wearing medical masks..I could understand.

What good does tying a bandana around the face do..other than conceal identity?

Asians did it as a courtesy when they were sick. Putting face masks on healthy people, makes no sense.


It feels very nefarious. Like..now the facial recognition has been perfected..they have everyone cover their face to record their 'gait'..

Gait identifying tech.
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brien is on it

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3:30
Tho the whole thing is worth a watch
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Thread: China - The world's first digital dictatorship.

Be a good slave and you are rewarded with table scraps of freedom. Be a bad slave - well you don't want to go there.


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Thread: Chinese 'gait recognition' tech IDs people by how they walk
Chinese authorities have begun deploying a new surveillance tool: "gait recognition" software that uses people's body shapes and how they walk to identify them, even when their faces are hidden from cameras.

Already used by police on the streets of Beijing and Shanghai, "gait recognition" is part of a push across China to develop artificial-intelligence and data-driven surveillance that is raising concern about how far the technology will go.

less than 50

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Yep, we're all fucked.
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yeah, not so easy to fool...

"Gait analysis can't be fooled by simply limping, walking with splayed feet or hunching over, because we're analyzing all the features of an entire body."

and you can bet they will have this adapted to satellites soon.

police
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^^



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Thread: Democratic 2020 Candidate Wants Government-Sponsored ‘Social Credit’ System Comparable To China’s

New York entrepreneur and Democratic 2020 candidate Andrew Yang wants to implement a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with “digital social credits” (DSCs) for good behavior.

Americans would receive DSCs under Yang’s system for things such as “participating in a town fair,” “fixing a neighbor’s appliance” or “tutoring a student,” his presidential campaign website explains.

“As individuals rack up DSCs, they would have both a permanent balance they’ve earned over their lifetime and a current balance. They could cash the points in for experiences, purchases with participating vendors, support for causes, and transfer points to others for special occasions,” Yang states on his website. “As their permanent balance gets higher, they might qualify for various perks like throwing a pitch at a local ballgame, an audience with their local Congressperson or meeting their state’s most civic-minded athlete or celebrity.”

“The most socially detached would be the most likely to ignore all of this,” he added. “But many people love rewards and feeling valued.”

Yang’s social credit plan bears some similarities to the social credit system implemented by China’s authoritarian government.

Every citizen in China is assigned a social credit score that determines whether they can buy plane or train tickets.

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wwonka1
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If they were all wearing medical masks..I could understand.

What good does tying a bandana around the face do..other than conceal identity?

Asians did it as a courtesy when they were sick. Putting face masks on healthy people, makes no sense.


It feels very nefarious. Like..now the facial recognition has been perfected..they have everyone cover their face to record their 'gait'..

Gait identifying tech.
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no matter the cause the effect has made you correct in that
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Here is an image of what I'm talking about..

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According to the story, this is Prince Harry. Not saying it isn't but you can't see his face, and it is covered by a bandana while walking his dog.

What is the purpose other than blind compliance?



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If they were all wearing medical masks..I could understand.

What good does tying a bandana around the face do..other than conceal identity?

Asians did it as a courtesy when they were sick. Putting face masks on healthy people, makes no sense.


It feels very nefarious. Like..now the facial recognition has been perfected..they have everyone cover their face to record their 'gait'..

Gait identifying tech.
 Quoting: Seer777


I think you're missing the point. Any system only works if a majority subscribe to it.

Our current corptocracy is only 70 years into its run and subsists on socialzing losses and privatizing gains while the political system runs interference.

Its main proponents are a dwindling entitlement class mercenaries; whom, at this juncture, should know how far any promises for services will carry.

China has a croney class of 25%.

The free world less than 10%.

Let that sink in.
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ruling class in uk adores ruling class in usa

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Here is an image of what I'm talking about..

[link to i.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]


According to the story, this is Prince Harry. Not saying it isn't but you can't see his face, and it is covered by a bandana while walking his dog.

What is the purpose other than blind compliance?



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1dunno1
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Coersion.
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yes
what i wonder is when people experience that alien state outdoors what are those same people like back indoors to live with

i live alone so i don't have another human close to me to think about it thank goodness
remembering some of my guests over the years

imagine locked in with a dodgy one
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I'm mandated to have my temperature checked and issued a mask I have to wear at all times while I'm at work every night, every shift I work.

My two daughters and I have spent hours this morning chatting back at home. All in all, not so dissimilar from a week, or month, or year ago.


Is there anything else from the crowd of those other people you would like to know?
A child at home sitting beside self to roam a sea free of foam fished patiently a garden gnome nomming on a tome of the sands of time to comb
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You've been letting this 'thing' harass you for years now, are you finally done with it or another decade to go?
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What do you suggest?

I try not to think decades in advance. I'm more on a day to day regimen.
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You didn't take my advice before, and ran back to it.

Why would anything have changed now?

The only thing that has changed is the year.
I think you like it.
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Taking advice and applying it to life, is a hit and miss.

Everything has changed.


I like some things. Others are conditioned.

I left shame back when I accepted food benefits, when my business was shut down due to social-distancing restrictions, back in March.
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I'm sorry to hear that, Seer.

I remember the rings you made & sold at the market.

You're right. A lot has changed.
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yes
what i wonder is when people experience that alien state outdoors what are those same people like back indoors to live with

i live alone so i don't have another human close to me to think about it thank goodness
remembering some of my guests over the years

imagine locked in with a dodgy one
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I'm mandated to have my temperature checked and issued a mask I have to wear at all times while I'm at work every night, every shift I work.

My two daughters and I have spent hours this morning chatting back at home. All in all, not so dissimilar from a week, or month, or year ago.


Is there anything else from the crowd of those other people you would like to know?
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you seem okay about your lifestyle

good
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If they were all wearing medical masks..I could understand.

What good does tying a bandana around the face do..other than conceal identity?

Asians did it as a courtesy when they were sick. Putting face masks on healthy people, makes no sense.


It feels very nefarious. Like..now the facial recognition has been perfected..they have everyone cover their face to record their 'gait'..

Gait identifying tech.
 Quoting: Seer777


I think you're missing the point. Any system only works if a majority subscribe to it.

Our current corptocracy is only 70 years into its run and subsists on socialzing losses and privatizing gains while the political system runs interference.

Its main proponents are a dwindling entitlement class mercenaries; whom, at this juncture, should know how far any promises for services will carry.

China has a croney class of 25%.

The free world less than 10%.

Let that sink in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78662744


That's true. Be near impossible to drive safely if everyone didn't follow driving rules. We all do it, because we understand the risk that not following the rules entails, not just to self, but innocent other people just going about their day.

This is similar in a sense that it is an act of 'keeping people safe'..but a bandana and the like that are being sold, are face coverings and not medical masks.

Like..if your seatbelt was crocheted out of loose threads..and would only protect the wearer symbolically and not in a high speed collision.


I don't know. I feel like this has to do with teaching the AI to recognize people, even if their faces are covered. Maybe because they know that when more people rebel against the total surveillance that is sliding into place..they will discard their phones due to tracking but the AI and cameras will still be able to identify them.

I think it's plausible..and along the same line China was working toward with Skynet and facial recognition AI.


Is the 25% croney class..those working directly for and within the CCP?
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Taking advice and applying it to life, is a hit and miss.

Everything has changed.


I like some things. Others are conditioned.

I left shame back when I accepted food benefits, when my business was shut down due to social-distancing restrictions, back in March.
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I'm sorry to hear that, Seer.

I remember the rings you made & sold at the market.

You're right. A lot has changed.
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Thanks.

Accepting food benefits has caused me great shame and burned me deep.

A lot of my rage over what has happened, ties back to that.

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Taking advice and applying it to life, is a hit and miss.

Everything has changed.


I like some things. Others are conditioned.

I left shame back when I accepted food benefits, when my business was shut down due to social-distancing restrictions, back in March.
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I'm sorry to hear that, Seer.

I remember the rings you made & sold at the market.

You're right. A lot has changed.
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Thanks.

Accepting food benefits has caused me great shame and burned me deep.

A lot of my rage over what has happened, ties back to that.
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I think I know what it is..

They have taken away my ability to even feed myself. I am now reliant on the state to feed me.

Last time this happened..I near starved myself to death rather than eat food bought with the food benefits we were on for a short time in 2012, after losing everything, due the 2008 financial collapse.

We had finally crawled out of that hole after 8 years, starting to really get comfortable again entering our peak 'earning years'..only to be thrown back in it.

It's insulting.

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If they were all wearing medical masks..I could understand.

What good does tying a bandana around the face do..other than conceal identity?

Asians did it as a courtesy when they were sick. Putting face masks on healthy people, makes no sense.


It feels very nefarious. Like..now the facial recognition has been perfected..they have everyone cover their face to record their 'gait'..

Gait identifying tech.
 Quoting: Seer777


I think you're missing the point. Any system only works if a majority subscribe to it.

Our current corptocracy is only 70 years into its run and subsists on socialzing losses and privatizing gains while the political system runs interference.

Its main proponents are a dwindling entitlement class mercenaries; whom, at this juncture, should know how far any promises for services will carry.

China has a croney class of 25%.

The free world less than 10%.

Let that sink in.
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That's true. Be near impossible to drive safely if everyone didn't follow driving rules. We all do it, because we understand the risk that not following the rules entails, not just to self, but innocent other people just going about their day.

This is similar in a sense that it is an act of 'keeping people safe'..but a bandana and the like that are being sold, are face coverings and not medical masks.

Like..if your seatbelt was crocheted out of loose threads..and would only protect the wearer symbolically and not in a high speed collision.


I don't know. I feel like this has to do with teaching the AI to recognize people, even if their faces are covered. Maybe because they know that when more people rebel against the total surveillance that is sliding into place..they will discard their phones due to tracking but the AI and cameras will still be able to identify them.

I think it's plausible..and along the same line China was working toward with Skynet and facial recognition AI.


Is the 25% croney class..those working directly for and within the CCP?
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People with money beyond their needs, but likely directly related to ccp.

Your smartphone contacts and traffic patterns are enough. I stated it was about tracking and a battle between u.s and chinese new generation chipsets.

We already know A.I can fill in the blanks. But, A.I is also the needle.

What is the greatest inefficiency in a system trying to utilize resources to create the most efficient disbursive output?
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I think you're missing the point. Any system only works if a majority subscribe to it.

Our current corptocracy is only 70 years into its run and subsists on socialzing losses and privatizing gains while the political system runs interference.

Its main proponents are a dwindling entitlement class mercenaries; whom, at this juncture, should know how far any promises for services will carry.

China has a croney class of 25%.

The free world less than 10%.

Let that sink in.
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That's true. Be near impossible to drive safely if everyone didn't follow driving rules. We all do it, because we understand the risk that not following the rules entails, not just to self, but innocent other people just going about their day.

This is similar in a sense that it is an act of 'keeping people safe'..but a bandana and the like that are being sold, are face coverings and not medical masks.

Like..if your seatbelt was crocheted out of loose threads..and would only protect the wearer symbolically and not in a high speed collision.


I don't know. I feel like this has to do with teaching the AI to recognize people, even if their faces are covered. Maybe because they know that when more people rebel against the total surveillance that is sliding into place..they will discard their phones due to tracking but the AI and cameras will still be able to identify them.

I think it's plausible..and along the same line China was working toward with Skynet and facial recognition AI.


Is the 25% croney class..those working directly for and within the CCP?
 Quoting: Seer777


People with money beyond their needs, but likely directly related to ccp.

Your smartphone contacts and traffic patterns are enough. I stated it was about tracking and a battle between u.s and chinese new generation chipsets.

We already know A.I can fill in the blanks. But, A.I is also the needle.

What is the greatest inefficiency in a system trying to utilize resources to create the most efficient disbursive output?
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Subjective beliefs? Greed?

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I think I know what it is..

They have taken away my ability to even feed myself. I am now reliant on the state to feed me.

Last time this happened..I near starved myself to death rather than eat food bought with the food benefits we were on for a short time in 2012, after losing everything, due the 2008 financial collapse.

We had finally crawled out of that hole after 8 years, starting to really get comfortable again entering our peak 'earning years'..only to be thrown back in it.

It's insulting.

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spot on
magnified in your born into culture as more shameful than most shameful things you can become into

potent
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puritan devotion to work and thrift fits nicley
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puritan devotion to work and thrift fits nicley
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purity prophets
sex magic in the best possible taste
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Not sure how being a puritan or sex magic applies..

I don't fault those that need food benefits.

But I'll fault myself..all day long. Until I'm filled with murderous rage.


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