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At this point I just have to get over praying.

I've done it for so long, and so often..it is more of habit to reduce anxiety. Now I catch myself doing it, and stop.

After decades of unanswered prayers..and fellow believers that will just say 'you're doing wrong'..I'm done with it.


Stand on my own. I don't need prayer anymore. I have to let it go.
 Quoting: Seer777


All words and thoughts can be viewed as "prayers"...

Who defines your definition?
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At this point I just have to get over praying.

I've done it for so long, and so often..it is more of habit to reduce anxiety. Now I catch myself doing it, and stop.

After decades of unanswered prayers..and fellow believers that will just say 'you're doing wrong'..I'm done with it.


Stand on my own. I don't need prayer anymore. I have to let it go.
 Quoting: Seer777


All words and thoughts can be viewed as "prayers"...

Who defines your definition?
 Quoting: justsayin;)


I do. I know when I'm praying versus any other thoughts.

The intent is totally different.

It was a crutch I was using to sooth anxiety. Almost like OCD..where there is ritual to it.
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At this point I just have to get over praying.

I've done it for so long, and so often..it is more of habit to reduce anxiety. Now I catch myself doing it, and stop.

After decades of unanswered prayers..and fellow believers that will just say 'you're doing wrong'..I'm done with it.


Stand on my own. I don't need prayer anymore. I have to let it go.
 Quoting: Seer777


All words and thoughts can be viewed as "prayers"...

Who defines your definition?
 Quoting: justsayin;)


I do. I know when I'm praying versus any other thoughts.

The intent is totally different.

It was a crutch I was using to sooth anxiety. Almost like OCD..where there is ritual to it.
 Quoting: Seer777


Kinda...Like GLP?
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When I read about that plane crash yesterday..where a bank president was one of 2 survivors..showed me this world belongs to evil. Of all people the fates would save..a bank president.

The most evil, greedy people in the world.
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Having faith that there is rhyme and reason in everything is the cause of much suffering.
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At this point I just have to get over praying.

I've done it for so long, and so often..it is more of habit to reduce anxiety. Now I catch myself doing it, and stop.

After decades of unanswered prayers..and fellow believers that will just say 'you're doing wrong'..I'm done with it.


Stand on my own. I don't need prayer anymore. I have to let it go.
 Quoting: Seer777


All words and thoughts can be viewed as "prayers"...

Who defines your definition?
 Quoting: justsayin;)


I do. I know when I'm praying versus any other thoughts.

The intent is totally different.

It was a crutch I was using to sooth anxiety. Almost like OCD..where there is ritual to it.
 Quoting: Seer777


Kinda...Like GLP?
 Quoting: justsayin;)


I don't and have never, prayed to GLP.

I come here for various reasons. Being objective is key. Not always easy.


This is personal and something I've struggled with for decades.

Honestly feels good to be free of it. It is like weight lifting off. I am not going to carry it anymore.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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The Sweating Sickness AKA The Sweat..took people in hours. Not days or weeks.

We still don't know what it was.
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Distemper
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When I read about that plane crash yesterday..where a bank president was one of 2 survivors..showed me this world belongs to evil. Of all people the fates would save..a bank president.

The most evil, greedy people in the world.
 Quoting: Seer777


Having faith that there is rhyme and reason in everything is the cause of much suffering.
 Quoting: deafcat


Maybe...

Be the rhymes and reasons 1dunno1

Getting there... that's
the hell of it.
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When I read about that plane crash yesterday..where a bank president was one of 2 survivors..showed me this world belongs to evil. Of all people the fates would save..a bank president.

The most evil, greedy people in the world.
 Quoting: Seer777


Having faith that there is rhyme and reason in everything is the cause of much suffering.
 Quoting: deafcat


I hear ya. Maybe he becomes a great giving man, gives away his fortune after his brush with certain death.

If I had control of the fates..he would be the first on the kill list.
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The Sweating Sickness AKA The Sweat..took people in hours. Not days or weeks.

We still don't know what it was.
 Quoting: Seer777


Distemper
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Interesting. I thought that only effected dogs.

They give several potentials at the end of the documentary what it might have been.
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All words and thoughts can be viewed as "prayers"...

Who defines your definition?
 Quoting: justsayin;)


I do. I know when I'm praying versus any other thoughts.

The intent is totally different.

It was a crutch I was using to sooth anxiety. Almost like OCD..where there is ritual to it.
 Quoting: Seer777


Kinda...Like GLP?
 Quoting: justsayin;)


I don't and have never, prayed to GLP.

I come here for various reasons. Being objective is key. Not always easy.


This is personal and something I've struggled with for decades.

Honestly feels good to be free of it. It is like weight lifting off. I am not going to carry it anymore.
 Quoting: Seer777


Ummm...okay, if you say so...

Makes sense.

Such is life.

Nice, let em go!
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When I read about that plane crash yesterday..where a bank president was one of 2 survivors..showed me this world belongs to evil. Of all people the fates would save..a bank president.

The most evil, greedy people in the world.
 Quoting: Seer777


Having faith that there is rhyme and reason in everything is the cause of much suffering.
 Quoting: deafcat


I hear ya. Maybe he becomes a great giving man, gives away his fortune after his brush with certain death.

If I had control of the fates..he would be the first on the kill list.
 Quoting: Seer777


Aye, I think our lists would not be very dissimilar.


A very interesting thought that just occurred to me. Having control of the fates could be likened to having free will. So why is it I feel more free after having made the choice to wrestle with control of the muses rather than the fates?
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Not sure I understand the question.

As I understand it..the muses are not to be controlled or contained. Like squeezing sand, the tighter your grip, the faster it slips away.


Fate speaks of determinism. Did you watch the vid I posted the other day?

Can free will and prophecy exist on the same timeline?


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Whenever the subject of prophecy comes up, and my thoughts are implored upon, this is what I have to say:

The distinction between prophecies which come true and those that do not is simply that the former are the ones that were not lost to history.


As far as the subject of containing (because it's a more fitting word) the muses, between doing what I am told that I cannot and following a directive of what I should do, I would rather forever go against the impossible grain.

If given the choice, which would you rather be? A muse or a fate?
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Whenever the subject of prophecy comes up, and my thoughts are implored upon, this is what I have to say:

The distinction between prophecies which come true and those that do not is simply that the former are the ones that were not lost to history.


As far as the subject of containing (because it's a more fitting word) the muses, between doing what I am told that I cannot and following a directive of what I should do, I would rather forever go against the impossible grain.

If given the choice, which would you rather be? A muse or a fate?
 Quoting: deafcat


Good point.

I would rather be a muse. Fate sounds too boxed in with no real freedom. Just serving a function.

Muses inspire and give the gift of creative energy and drive to see it through.

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That piques my curiosity which of the muses is most prominent in your nativity.

Urania is in mine, strikingly so, and it wasn't until after half the breadth of time of my esoteric study and creative writing had passed that I would see it to be so.
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...and how is it that dreamcatchers are made?

Just yesterday, how I don't know, it dawned on me I could weave a dreamcatcher for my elder tree with seven of those little wire globe things for suspending little trinket like things, and that I could make it depict her nativity.

How to fill the spaces of the seven spheres and weave the colors of all the houses and aspects, I already know. But how to form the basis of the circle... I don't know why it escapes me. Nor do I know why it's you in particular my intuition keeps screaming to be of assistance.

I have until July 1st. Eighteen is an important birthday.
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...and how is it that dreamcatchers are made?

Just yesterday, how I don't know, it dawned on me I could weave a dreamcatcher for my elder tree with seven of those little wire globe things for suspending little trinket like things, and that I could make it depict her nativity.

How to fill the spaces of the seven spheres and weave the colors of all the houses and aspects, I already know. But how to form the basis of the circle... I don't know why it escapes me. Nor do I know why it's you in particular my intuition keeps screaming to be of assistance.

I have until July 1st. Eighteen is an important birthday.
 Quoting: deafcat


I do have one hanging about 6ft away from me. It has a moon prism in the middle and a star prism hanging off the end.

One of the long time crafters at Market makes them and I traded her a ring I made, for it. She calls them fairy webs.

I don't know how to make them though. I don't know how to crochet.
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That piques my curiosity which of the muses is most prominent in your nativity.

Urania is in mine, strikingly so, and it wasn't until after half the breadth of time of my esoteric study and creative writing had passed that I would see it to be so.
 Quoting: deafcat


Interesting about the 9 Muses.

Reminds a bit of Enoch's Watchers and what they taught to man. Of course in Enoch..they are assumed to be male, fallen angels.

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It wasn't until after my mother's death I would learn of how much conflict within my parents' marriage was caused by her insistence on removing any and all gender attribution to influences considered to be transcendent divinity.


The dreamcatcher I keep above my bed has three concentric circles. Breezes through a window cause them to sway to and fro across differing vertical axes.


I'm a few more beers than perhaps I ought to be into my day, so maybe that's why I've the liquid courage to ask for what won't make much sense at the moment.

I appreciate your response and I'm sure it will reside somewhere inside the back of my mind as I traverse the path to complete my project hf
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It wasn't until after my mother's death I would learn of how much conflict within my parents' marriage was caused by her insistence on removing any and all gender attribution to influences considered to be transcendent divinity.


The dreamcatcher I keep above my bed has three concentric circles. Breezes through a window cause them to sway to and fro across differing vertical axes.


I'm a few more beers than perhaps I ought to be into my day, so maybe that's why I've the liquid courage to ask for what won't make much sense at the moment.

I appreciate your response and I'm sure it will reside somewhere inside the back of my mind as I traverse the path to complete my project hf
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I think the myth of the Watchers and myth of the 9 Muses line up nicely.

I found a picture of her work..but they are the smallest and least intricate of her work.

She doesn't consider them dreamcatchers and corrects anyone that calls them that. She makes big ones that go for well over $100. These ones are impulse buys for the kids..

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I'll be cracking a beer here shortly. I force myself to wait until noon, and usually stop drinking by 5 or 6 and I'm in bed by 9. I know they say drinking by noon is bad..but meh. I drink slow.

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The Nine Muses Of The Greek Mythology


1. Clio: The Muse Clio discovered history and guitar. History was named Clio in the ancient years, because it refers to “kleos” the Greek word for the heroic acts. Clio was always represented with a clarion in the right arm and a book in the left hand.

2. Euterpe: Muse Euterpe discovered several musical instruments, courses and dialectic. She was always depicted holding a flute, while many instruments were always around her.

3. Thalia: Muse Thalia was the protector of comedy; she discovered comedy, geometry, architectural science and agriculture. She was also protector of Symposiums. She was always depicted holding a theatrical – comedy mask.

4. Melpomene: Opposite from Thalia, Muse Melpomene was the protector of Tragedy; she invented tragedy, rhetoric speech and Melos. She was depicted holding a tragedy mask and usually bearing a bat.

5. Terpsichore: Terpsichore was the protector of dance; she invented dances, the harp and education. She was called Terpsichore because she was enjoying and having fun with dancing ( “Terpo” in Greek refers to be amused). She was depicted wearing laurels on her head, holding a harp and dancing.

6. Erato: Muse Erato was the protector of Love and Love Poetry – as well as wedding. Her name comes from the Greek word “Eros” that refers to the feeling of falling in love. She was depicted holding a lyre and love arrows and bows.

7. Polymnia: Muse Polymnia was the protector of the divine hymns and mimic art; she invented geometry and grammar. She was depicted looking up to the Sky, holding a lyre.

8. Ourania: Muse Ourania was the protector of the celestial objects and stars; she invented astronomy. She was always depicted bearing stars, a celestial sphere and a bow compass.

9. Calliope: Muse Calliope was the superior Muse. She was accompanying kings and princes in order to impose justice and serenity. She was the protector of heroic poems and rhetoric art. According to the myth, Homer asks from Calliope to inspire him while writing Iliad and Odyssey, and, thus, Calliope is depicted holding laurels in one hand and the two Homeric poems in the other hand.

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What the Watchers GAVE to MAN...
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The Book of Enoch Ch. 8:

1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures.And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways.

2. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings,

3. Armaros the resolving of enchantments,

4. Baraqijal (taught) astrology,

5. Kokabel the constellations,

6. Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds,

7. Araqiel the signs of the earth,

8. Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and

9. Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

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1. Mercury

2. Venus

3. Earth

4. Mars

5. Jupiter

6. Saturn

7. Uranus

8. Neptune

9. Pluto


Pluto still a planet in my perspective.
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Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels. The troublemakers. The problem child. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently.

They're not fond of rules and they have no respect for the status quo.

You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you cannot do is ignore them. Because they change things.

They invent. They imagine. They heal. They explore. They create. They inspire. They push the human race forward.

Maybe they have to be crazy. How else can you stare at an empty canvas and see a work of art? Or sit in silence and hear a song that has never been written? Or gaze at a red planet and see a laboratory on wheels? We make tools for these kinds of people.


While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

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I like that I stumbled on this on May 23rd.

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Information warfare (IW) is a concept involving the battlespace use and management of information and communication technology (ICT) in pursuit of a competitive advantage over an opponent. Information warfare is the manipulation of information trusted by a target without the target's awareness so that the target will make decisions against their interest but in the interest of the one conducting information warfare.
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