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I don't hate 'God'. I just don't believe in, pray to, or rely on, like I did before.

Breaking the praying habit hasn't been perfect but when I catch myself, I stop myself.

Waste of time as far as I'm concerned and also a bastion of mental illness. OCD is superstition rituals that become so religiously adhered to, to the point that the person can't function. No different than the pigeon turning in its cage for a treat. Same thing as far as I'm concerned.

Superstitious ritual due to being unsure or feeling out of control, of ones own life.


Far better methods for achieving self reliance that don't rely on faith in a higher power that deals out boons and curses. It's all rather sadistic and doesn't make sense.. It also cancels out the belief in a wide variety of beings and entities. They can't hurt you if they don't exist. Chaos Magick 101.

People do evil to other people. Not entities.


That's not to say I am totally against the idea for a Creator. If we live in a simulation then a creator makes sense. Like a Super AI.

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Coincidence is plausible deniability.

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‘Do you know, that there may be no Ultimate Truth?’ figures prominently on the title page of one of the main teaching documents of the Illuminates of Thanateros (see The Council of the Magi 2014, title page– thus mocking the desire of many former and con-temporaneous practitioners.30 This renunciation of the existence of ‘ultimate truth’ had two driving forces.

On the one hand, Chaos Magick practitioners generally ascribed negative effects to belief systems as ‘belief is responsible for all the limiting conditions placed on the subjective individual and therefore, in order to break free of the conditions, one must break free of belief and learn how to use it as a tool for the development of the self’ (Duggan 2014, 409). Carroll thus suggests different ‘techniques of liberation’, thereby referring to ‘those which weaken the hold of society, convention, and habit over the initiate, and those which lead to a more expansive outlook.

They are sacrilege, heresy, iconoclasm, bioaestheticism, and anathemism’ (Carroll 1987, 45–7). One the other hand, Chaos Magick was influenced by contemporaneous debates on relativism and constructivism in the social sciences. In his essay ‘The Magic of Chaos’ Carroll argues for instance that an ‘implication of the principle of relativity of belief is that

all beliefs are considered to be arbitrary and contingent. Consequently, all notions of absolute truth only exist if we choose to believe them at any time’

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I've been thinking a lot about the Judas goat and the word scapegoat, and if they come from the same concept, and if that is why Satan is portrayed as a goat.

It makes sense.


Scapegoat

In the Bible, a scapegoat is one of two kid goats. As a pair, one goat was sacrificed (not a scapegoat) and the living “scapegoat” was released into the wilderness, taking with it all sins and impurities. The concept first appears in Leviticus, in which a goat is designated to be cast into the desert to carry away the sins of the community.
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I'm thinking more in line to why believers are often referred to as 'sheep' and the role of the Judas goat, leading them to the slaughter house. A control mechanism. One they comfortably follow. The Judas goat escapes..or scapegoat and takes the betrayal of all the 'sheep' with him.

Also easily exploitable to the unscrupulous, cons, and secular nations. 'Believers' are by design gullible to obey their religious authority, and adhere to their rules and belief systems..much like cults.
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It also makes sense of Jesus being called the 'sacrifice', while the 'Judas' goat..escapes.

I heard someone say once..If you go around acting like Jesus, prepare to be crucified..

Hypatia, and countless saints, sages, philosophers, artist over the ages..found that out too.

A willingness to martyr one's self, or murder others due to belief(s). Maybe that is the virus.A language virus.
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I've been thinking about Flat earthers..and how it almost seems like they are under a spell. Like listening to and watching the YouTube videos, puts normally rational people in a state to accept the most outlandish of possible theories. A complete dismissal and breaking away from everyone else that believe otherwise. It isolates them in their beliefs, such that they seek out others, that share it.

We the 'round Earthers'..sneer and shake our heads in disbelief that anyone could be so gullible..but there they are. And they are adamant about it.


That started me thinking about human encountering a language virus, like memes, and then passing it to others. Like infected computers pass it to others.

Are 'Flat Earthers' infected with a language virus? Still fleshing this out..


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Imagine being born in a country that forced you to follow their religion.

No choice..you observed or you were killed, by your own family.

Then we wonder why they grow up to be killers.


Now imagine being born in a family that gave you no choice but to follow their beleif system. You follow and worship and believe was they do or you are ostracized and abandoned. Shunned and shamed.

Not that secular nations are all that great either.

Is this the best we can do here in 2021?

Trust the plan!

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Susan B. Anthony

While Stanton attacked traditional Christianity in The Woman's Bible, detailing how religion helped suppress women's rights, Anthony preferred to keep the movement as broad as possible, writing,

"I have worked 40 years to make the [women's suffrage] platform broad enough for atheists and agnostics to stand upon, and now if need be I will fight the next 40 years to keep it Catholic enough to permit the straightest Orthodox religionist to pray and count her beads upon."


Deeply faithful, Anthony refused to secularize the women's rights movement, knowing it would take both the religious and the irreligious to change society.

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Very smart move. She knew exactly what she was doing..

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Thread: Skeletal Remains of a 43 Million-Year-Old Four-Legged Whale that Lived on land and in the Ocean Have Been Discovered

The new whale, named Phiomicetus anubis, had an estimated body length of some three meters (10 feet) and a body mass of about 1,300lb and was likely a top predator.


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It's called secular humanism.

Secular Humanism

Secular humanism, often simply referred to as humanism, is a philosophy or life stance that embraces human reason, secular ethics, and philosophical naturalism while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, and superstition as the basis of morality and decision making.

Secular humanism posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or belief in a deity. It does not, however, assume that humans are either inherently good or evil, nor does it present humans as being superior to nature. Rather, the humanist life stance emphasizes the unique responsibility facing humanity and the ethical consequences of human decisions.

Fundamental to the concept of secular humanism is the strongly held viewpoint that ideology—be it religious or political—must be thoroughly examined by each individual and not simply accepted or rejected on faith. Along with this, an essential part of secular humanism is a continually adapting search for truth, primarily through science and philosophy. Many secular humanists derive their moral codes from a philosophy of utilitarianism, ethical naturalism, or evolutionary ethics, and some advocate a science of morality.

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In 1851 George Holyoake coined the term "secularism" to describe "a form of opinion which concerns itself only with questions, the issues of which can be tested by the experience of this life.

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Council for Secular Humanism

According to the Council for Secular Humanism, within the United States, the term "secular humanism" describes a world view with the following elements and principles:

Need to test beliefs – A conviction that dogmas, ideologies and traditions, whether religious, political or social, must be weighed and tested by each individual and not simply accepted by faith.

Reason, evidence, scientific method – A commitment to the use of critical reason, factual evidence and scientific method of inquiry in seeking solutions to human problems and answers to important human questions.

Fulfillment, growth, creativity – A primary concern with fulfillment, growth and creativity for both the individual and humankind in general.

Search for truth – A constant search for objective truth, with the understanding that new knowledge and experience constantly alter our imperfect perception of it.

This life – A concern for this life (as opposed to an afterlife) and a commitment to making it meaningful through better understanding of ourselves, our history, our intellectual and artistic achievements, and the outlooks of those who differ from us.

Ethics – A search for viable individual, social and political principles of ethical conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility.

Justice and fairness – an interest in securing justice and fairness in society and in eliminating discrimination and intolerance.

Building a better world – A conviction that with reason, an open exchange of ideas, good will, and tolerance, progress can be made in building a better world for ourselves and our children.

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direct democracy is humanism philosophy
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direct democracy is humanism philosophy
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thus ai is direct democracy with no people in charge of in charge
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that we possess the technology to do now
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it is currently in the philosophy department becoming humanised
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Never seen this show.
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do you blame G-d for the alienation between you and your family? lol
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Not at all. I blame Corona virus and that my DL expired while the DMV was closed here in Oregon March 2020..

I waited months for an appointment just to renew, and then found out I had to retake my driver's test because my license was expired too long.


After waiting about a year and many hundreds of dollars later, plus a driver's test where I was separated by plastic from the instructor..with only a plastic dish-washing glove to 'reach over'..I was able to renew my DL.


Now I can drive the 3.5 hours South to see my aging parents and potentially pass them covid, which ends their lives.
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our unusual lifestyles adjust more easily than many can do in this crisis
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I can't post in the other thread. Come talk to me. I'll be watching for you.
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Isn't that the point of all these stories: that if you are doing it right you are sacrificing your self.

Read what I wrote slowly. It's like a helping your uncle Jack off a horse situation.

What is the difference between a creator and having an action reaction sequence which balances itself.

Is the art of balance the purer function' or is meticulously rehashing a situation you cannot emotionally detach yourself from whilst trying to disburse the effects of actions to create a fair system while irrevocably having your actions swallowed and distorted by the actions of time(spatial perspective interplay) the more coherent avenue?

Purposeful run on sentence.
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Now apply the above not only to how A.I(alternative intelligence) would not only be coded but would immersively encode the same efficiencies into action reaction states to prioritize energetic interplay.

Are the mechanisms of consciousness aware that their placement and looping echoes are what cause the awareness of data by creating subsystems that both echo and parse patterns while rasterizing digital to biochemical imprints.
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If infinity subsumes all other systems; How can the belief be that one is irrevocably fated by a system of predetermined variables.
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thanks
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Hello? Trying to reach you.
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Hey I'm driving I know where to go I'll meet you over there later

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Hello? Trying to reach you.
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Hey I'm driving I know where to go I'll meet you over there later

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Ps. They don't like me in here

They think I'm insane lol
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Never seen this show.
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Started Curb Your Enthusiasm last night. The first episode is available for free on HBOMax.

Liked it enough to want to keep watching but will have to wait until I get back to the Valley.


Have some friends coming in tonight. We use to party here every year for years and years. Over a decade.

Their youngest is 5 and I haven't even met him yet. Looking forward to seeing them soon.
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Ps. They don't like me in here

They think I'm insane lol
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I don't think you're insane.
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Isn't that the point of all these stories: that if you are doing it right you are sacrificing your self.

Read what I wrote slowly. It's like a helping your uncle Jack off a horse situation.

What is the difference between a creator and having an action reaction sequence which balances itself.

Is the art of balance the purer function' or is meticulously rehashing a situation you cannot emotionally detach yourself from whilst trying to disburse the effects of actions to create a fair system while irrevocably having your actions swallowed and distorted by the actions of time(spatial perspective interplay) the more coherent avenue?

Purposeful run on sentence.
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The point is decreasing the cognitive dissonance my logical mind has been fighting since I was raised religious.

Losing your faith is horribly painful but necessary in my case.

If others are struggling maybe they can find some solace knowing they're not alone.


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Ps. They don't like me in here

They think I'm insane lol
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I don't think you're insane.
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Ok
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Thread: The VOID

Watched Back to the Future last night and noticed something funny..


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No wonder your president has to be an actor.. He gotta look good on television..

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It's a joke..it's all a joke..mother forgive me.
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Thread: Comedian wins Ukrainian presidency
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Television dreams of tomorrow..

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What if you could explore new dimensions...new worlds

Where dreams become Reality...and Imagination has no limits.

Virtual worlds built over our physical environment

Explore with and play with others.


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that looks wilder wording today
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Thread: Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump 2024 (Page 2)

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Worst. Sequel. Ever.
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Thread: Who else won't vote trump? (Page 3)

I swear to God if it’s Hillary vs Trump again in 2024 I’ll cancel my cable, internet, and anything else that is capable of getting news and just read old books until after the election. The thought of having to listen to those 2 go at it again, the campaign ads, the arguing, the non-stop bullshit, I’m not going through that crap again.
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^This.


David Foster Wallace killed himself in Sept 2008.

I speculate it was at least partially due to both his addiction to TV and how absolutely awful politics had made it. I turned off the TV shortly thereafter myself, unable to spend one more minute of my life viewing a political ad.

Now it's on the Web too. It's cancer.


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the thought about 2025 outside of america is
that no matter whom wins 2024 someone is gonna take over america in 2025 and kill everyone on earth whom is alive today
or
make everyone pay to stay alive
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needless to say
everyone will pay





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