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flaming sword User ID: 71300378 Australia 01/23/2016 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would question the assumption of automatic redemption, however. Agapea also encompasses Judgement, hence the sensitivity of said. For if all is the same, differing by degrees, then Love=non love. So, for those who knowingly enter th edark side, on the assumption of Grace, may later fit into the wailing and gnashing of teeth. category. Anyway...just calling in to say Hi. I left some heart here yesterday, ah yes, there it is. Bye. |
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Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 41078035 United States 01/23/2016 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting thesis, re the dark side. Quoting: flaming sword 71300378 I would question the assumption of automatic redemption, however. Agapea also encompasses Judgement, hence the sensitivity of said. For if all is the same, differing by degrees, then Love=non love. So, for those who knowingly enter th edark side, on the assumption of Grace, may later fit into the wailing and gnashing of teeth. category. Anyway...just calling in to say Hi. I left some heart here yesterday, ah yes, there it is. Bye. I don't believe in eternal punishment. As 'punishment' is something that happens to change a behavior toward something more favorable. Personally, collectively, and/or both. Only torture lasts forever...and no Father God I can imagine, would choose to torture over punishment. Recalls of what Dion said about giving people enough rope. The smart ones figure it out and take the lesson in stride. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71300378 Australia 01/23/2016 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do you really think God(s) would care a damn enough to mete eternal punishment" its not called the second death for nothing anyway.... thanks so much seer for yoru support during my recent barrage No...1-2% of humans get eternal life the is no eternal damnation there is no satan just you and god(s) and the great beyond. ok? |
Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recalls of what Dion said about giving people enough rope. The smart ones figure it out and take the lesson in stride. Quoting: Seer777 13 loops in hangman's noose sum of first 13 digits [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] hallowed ground Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71300378 Australia 01/23/2016 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recalls of what Dion said about giving people enough rope. The smart ones figure it out and take the lesson in stride. Quoting: Seer777 13 loops in hangman's noose sum of first 13 digits [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] hallowed ground You divinators really are the scum of the astral smh |
Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | on the attack again? thought you were gonna let it go Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 41078035 United States 01/23/2016 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do you really think God(s) would care a damn enough to mete eternal punishment" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71300378 its not called the second death for nothing anyway.... thanks so much seer for yoru support during my recent barrage No...1-2% of humans get eternal life the is no eternal damnation there is no satan just you and god(s) and the great beyond. ok? A lot of people believe he does. Mete out, just that. I try not to. But I was raised that way, so it is hard to shake the fear... I have felt the weight of Oblivion. I occasionally long to return there. I figure if Satan exists, it is more like an attorney for the prosecution. The whole, heart and a feather. Judgement thing. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71300378 Australia 01/23/2016 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, just relaying my thoughts. I'm done now. Just wanted to point out the utter bs delusion that redemption is automatic... pick up my emotional distress from a complete lack of support against your tirades, so, you now know what Bovine Digital Dermatitus is? Good. Pleased to help. I think, th eimbued irony in seeing all the shadow minions of the dark, being soo self assured about automatic redemption its worth th eprice for the laugh... so....just tidying up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71300378 Australia 01/23/2016 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do you really think God(s) would care a damn enough to mete eternal punishment" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71300378 its not called the second death for nothing anyway.... thanks so much seer for yoru support during my recent barrage No...1-2% of humans get eternal life the is no eternal damnation there is no satan just you and god(s) and the great beyond. ok? A lot of people believe he does. Mete out, just that. I try not to. But I was raised that way, so it is hard to shake the fear... I have felt the weight of Oblivion. I occasionally long to return there. I figure if Satan exists, it is more like an attorney for the prosecution. The whole, heart and a feather. Judgement thing. :) Umm, I think you may have missed the imbued irony in bold... I couldn't give atoss what any of you believe, primarily, because you have all willingly ingested so much baal shit that you are willing to allow s/e to spoon feed it fucking have it just don't rely on me for any help anymore...ok? OUT DISTANCE NOT NEUTRAL> Just so you ALL know lamentable darkside organic portals... enough |
Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I figure if Satan exists, it is more like an attorney for the prosecution. The whole, heart and a feather. Judgement thing. Quoting: Seer777 the term 'Satan' = accuser Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | every time you open your mouth you help me Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
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Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't believe you just said that He said he was dying of Bovine Digital Dermatitis, his words. Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every time you open yours, I see more Your welcome. Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 41078035 United States 01/23/2016 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Temptation Quoting: Seer777 Tolaris Shim believed that because a Jedi was in tune with the Force and could use it to whatever ends they saw fit, situations would arise that tempted the Jedi toward selfish applications of the Force. Rushing to help friends, facing obvious perils, and ending disputes quickly were all acts of haste that according to Master Shim would result in steps onto the dark path should the individual act first and contemplate later. Stage 2: Imperilment According to Master Shim, a hasty, indecisive Jedi can be quite a catastrophe to themselves. Also, any Jedi who believes that a "shortcut" through the path of the dark side will be lined with signs redirecting him back toward the light is only deluding himself. Shim felt that a Jedi cannot be blinded by the idea of doing what they perceive to be right, by any means necessary. She also believed that if one accepts the darkness by which they are surrounded as a means to power, then the next stage has no bearing on their concerns. [link to imgur.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] To bring the balance back... Bring it back Bring it back Bolding for emphasis. I mentioned I would not get between argument here that people choose of their own free will, to engage in. I do not have 1 oz of energy to give, in that regard. Nor will I take sides in argument that is none of my business, or has anything to do with me or this thread. I have enough on my plate for people to think I am gonna take a side on every argument that breaks out here. I mentioned I would NOT, directly. Take it or leave it. Is what it is. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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songwaves User ID: 71177301 United Kingdom 01/23/2016 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey songs, Quoting: paler. Had a look at that site. Didn't get a great feel from it but it does have some old texts there to read. Ta for the link. Your welcome Paler - it has alot of awesome stuff there not available anywhere else :) Look for a book "Anna gradmother of jesus' If you don't mind me saying me mindful of how your healing gift is being used. It should always be honoured and in sacred way. You have gift :) Anyways , just be aware. :) ok thanks Paler “I’m sleeping, but my heart is keeping watch”. The Song of Songs. |
Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Thistleprick he has suffered many years with his illness. You have been cruel to him. he attacked Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
Thistleprick User ID: 37214159 United States 01/23/2016 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not have 1 oz of energy to give, in that regard. Nor will I take sides in argument that is none of my business, or has anything to do with me or this thread. Quoting: Seer777 Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last. |
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Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 41078035 United States 01/23/2016 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Four Stages of the Dark Side Quoting: Seer777 [link to imgur.com] The Four Stages of the Dark Side was a thesis presented by the Jedi Master Tolaris Shim that outlined her beliefs on what constitutes a complete fall to the dark side. Stage 1: Temptation Stage 2: Imperilment Stage 3: Submission Stage 4: Redemption/Atonement Tolaris believed that a Jedi who is only slightly tainted by the dark side could atone for their actions through meditation, reflection, and absolution. She also believed that a Dark Jedi was beyond atonement, and therefore only eligible for redemption. According to Master Shim, a redeemed Jedi is one who has performed a selfless act of heroism without using the dark side to obtain results. Such acts include saving the life of another through completely selfless action, or helping to right a wrong one has helped to create. Just felt like sharing. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Stage 1: Temptation Quoting: Seer777 Tolaris Shim believed that because a Jedi was in tune with the Force and could use it to whatever ends they saw fit, situations would arise that tempted the Jedi toward selfish applications of the Force. Rushing to help friends, facing obvious perils, and ending disputes quickly were all acts of haste that according to Master Shim would result in steps onto the dark path should the individual act first and contemplate later. Stage 2: Imperilment According to Master Shim, a hasty, indecisive Jedi can be quite a catastrophe to themselves. Also, any Jedi who believes that a "shortcut" through the path of the dark side will be lined with signs redirecting him back toward the light is only deluding himself. Shim felt that a Jedi cannot be blinded by the idea of doing what they perceive to be right, by any means necessary. She also believed that if one accepts the darkness by which they are surrounded as a means to power, then the next stage has no bearing on their concerns. [link to imgur.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] To bring the balance back... Bring it back Bring it back Stage 3: Submission Master Shim believed that once a Jedi accepts the dark path, the end justifying the means becomes irrelevant. Situations like attempting to destroy the Sith through infiltration, or trying to save loved ones from death have caused several famous Jedi to explain away their actions based on the desired outcomes. At this point, their fall to the dark side is nearly complete. [link to imgur.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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