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Message Subject Mad World
Poster Handle Seer777
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With that said...

One of the greatest mass murders of all-time was quoted as saying such...

Beat him...it is the worst thing you can do someone.
 Quoting: Seer777


It is wise to know why he said this though...

Stalin as a child was at the mercy of horribly abusive drunk step-father.

So abusive...that he maimed his arm permanently around 8 years old..and he went to live with the monks..


The 'arm thing' was why he had a harder time..joining the 'resistence' as a youth...


When the greatest mass-murder of all-time tells you beating someone is worse than death..I think he meant it.
 Quoting: Seer777


To escape the abusive relationship, Keke took Stalin and moved into the house of a family friend, Father Christopher Charkviani.[18] She worked as a house cleaner and launderer for local families sympathetic to her plight.[19] Keke was determined to send her son to school, something that none of the family had previously achieved.[20] In late 1888, aged 10 Stalin enrolled at the Gori Church School. This was normally reserved for the children of clergy, although Charkviani ensured that the boy received a place...

....Aged 12, he was seriously injured after being hit by a phaeton, which was the likely cause of a lifelong disability to his left arm.

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According to the works of the Iranian historian Rashid al-Din (1247–1318), the Mongols killed more than 700,000 people in Merv and more than a million in Nishapur. The total population of Persia may have dropped from 2,500,000 to 250,000 as a result of mass extermination and famine.

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 Quoting: Sol-tari


I think highly empathic people can be pushed into numbness with can resemble both the coldness and distance that sociopaths display.

Perhaps even becoming a sociopath yourself. To not feel at all, is sometimes far better than too much.

Basically, blocking everything. I think empaths and sociopaths do this similarly.


I ended up watching a documentary on Stalin yesterday and I was shocked at how easy it was for me to see how he became like he did.

Hindsight being 20:20.

He was the son of a poor, violent abusive father, which injured him so severely when he was 7, that his left arm was left withered for life by the assault. He was then accepted into a type of priesthood for boys, where he was beaten there and God knows what else.

His first wife dies in childbirth from which he exclaims, she takes his heart with her in her death. From there is a decent into what later occurred.

The starving deaths of millions.


His mother said to him on her death bed, Son, it would have been better had you become a priest...



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 Quoting: Seer777


To go through hell (lower level of being) and still be able to feel love and compassion is strength. You then get to leave hell, so to speak, because you've risen above external circumstances without it affecting who you are inside. The frequency of love and the domain of the selfless.

To go through hell and lose all love and compassion is weakness, turning one into the very thing that hurt you originally. You devolve lower into hell, the frequency of fear and the domain of the bully.

It's tricky business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62937177


Well said and tricky indeed.

Gazing into the Abyss and all that. Fine line.


With Stalin, it almost felt like a deliberate act against a God that 'didn't exist'. It wasn't there to help him as a boy, nor in the boys priesthood, and took the very thing he loved as a man. And that point I suppose gaining power with his charisma and tactics was no longer impeded by the worry about what 'God' may think of any action. He was ruthless to succeed. And succeed he did. He was a nobody that rose to the top. To worship. While millions died. A Cult of personality.

His 2nd wife killed herself and denounced him in the suicide letter. They were all afraid of him.


I have been considering for over a week now how a sociopath can be created and this followed one of my posits.
 Quoting: Seer777


Stalin's mother was the first/last human he ever loved.

Maybe beside his daughter..which he even threatened to kill...
 
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