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Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The motivation was sex..what else? Quoting: Seer777 I meant all the females before I even found this website. There were many. Each leaving with their scars.. I have pack up and drive home. Bbs. Gotcha...why groom aspirations of astral clairvoyance? Witch fetish? It wasn't my motivation. It was his. He knew I wanted nothing to do with that..especially with him. Knowing that all these years he told me last September after I was convinced to speak with him..and I quote..There is endless pleasure in your resistance.. I fought it constantly. Constantly! There's your motive. I grew up in a whorehouse. Im familiar with every type of freak. The motiva ion is trauma and succor. Some want to vomit trauma into others and watch the record skip.others want to be lost i. The skip...loop. I seems like frottage to me. Remember, homosex al trauma rituals are being perpetuated as 'normal' sexuality these days. I grew up in a Christian home, went to private school, while praying and singing to Jesus. This isn't a fetish for me. It's a nightmare. One that often makes me feel like God has abandoned me..or doesn't exist at all..which I believe is Satan's entire purpose. I didn't call it Hell, because it was fun. You know what he said about you and a few other male members of this forum, to me in that horrible chat? He told me, you asked him, to share me, with you. While I didn't believe it for 1 second..it still messed with my head to think he would even consider saying that to me. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prayers mister God and the angels keep you safe always seer and the strength of spirit to overcome all adversaries. Amen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77670629 Thank you. I pray constantly..but maybe when people say you can't pray for yourself..it is true. Dunno. But thank you. <3 a wing to shelter under, helps transmute directed magical forces/winds directed. Stops push. Praying to Arch Angel Michael to protect me..does seem to work.. I do it a lot. Other saints have come up randomly and I am paying attention. St. Joseph. St. Basil. Rather recently. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77676469 Canada 05/25/2019 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77676469 Gotcha...why groom aspirations of astral clairvoyance? Witch fetish? It wasn't my motivation. It was his. He knew I wanted nothing to do with that..especially with him. Knowing that all these years he told me last September after I was convinced to speak with him..and I quote..There is endless pleasure in your resistance.. I fought it constantly. Constantly! There's your motive. I grew up in a whorehouse. Im familiar with every type of freak. The motiva ion is trauma and succor. Some want to vomit trauma into others and watch the record skip.others want to be lost i. The skip...loop. I seems like frottage to me. Remember, homosex al trauma rituals are being perpetuated as 'normal' sexuality these days. I grew up in a Christian home, went to private school, while praying and singing to Jesus. This isn't a fetish for me. It's a nightmare. One that often makes me feel like God has abandoned me..or doesn't exist at all..which I believe is Satan's entire purpose. I didn't call it Hell, because it was fun. You know what he said about you and a few other male members of this forum, to me in that horrible chat? He told me, you asked him, to share me, with you. While I didn't believe it for 1 second..it still messed with my head to think he would even consider saying that to me. Because it's what is inside his head. It lessens guilt by implying others want the same. The want to normalize or create peer norms. It makes it seem more trivial. Listen to interviews with serial killers and watch them perpetrate the same. Lies are built on the jelly of shame. |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seer777 It wasn't my motivation. It was his. He knew I wanted nothing to do with that..especially with him. Knowing that all these years he told me last September after I was convinced to speak with him..and I quote..There is endless pleasure in your resistance.. I fought it constantly. Constantly! There's your motive. I grew up in a whorehouse. Im familiar with every type of freak. The motiva ion is trauma and succor. Some want to vomit trauma into others and watch the record skip.others want to be lost i. The skip...loop. I seems like frottage to me. Remember, homosex al trauma rituals are being perpetuated as 'normal' sexuality these days. I grew up in a Christian home, went to private school, while praying and singing to Jesus. This isn't a fetish for me. It's a nightmare. One that often makes me feel like God has abandoned me..or doesn't exist at all..which I believe is Satan's entire purpose. I didn't call it Hell, because it was fun. You know what he said about you and a few other male members of this forum, to me in that horrible chat? He told me, you asked him, to share me, with you. While I didn't believe it for 1 second..it still messed with my head to think he would even consider saying that to me. Because it's what is inside his head. It lessens guilt by implying others want the same. The want to normalize or create peer norms. It makes it seem more trivial. Listen to interviews with serial killers and watch them perpetrate the same. Lies are built on the jelly of shame. I know your personality, the personalities of the others well enough, to know none of you would ever approach aether like that. I went into shock after that convo and don't recall much about the week after.. Satan is the Father of Lies. He lies about everything, while still telling the truth. He hypnotizes people by the way he communicates. That's why I constantly post the Jessica Jones trailer. That's how I feel about it and have since 2015. I've been on the run. He will not let me go. It isn't love. It's obsession. K told me he was obsessed with me. He is coward and will never directly respond to people like me, and many others..to the things we know he's done. I don't know what to do. I tried everything. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] ^^ Maybe this will make more sense now.. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76789345 United Kingdom 05/25/2019 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I am trying to help someone else at the same time. I see a Pattern. Thoughts are energy. They manifest in the 3D world, whether we choose to believe or not. And I am working with a thought template....! Hopping that the one creating this pattern will read my WORDS has a warning before the TestMe_Light.sys is activated on him by the MCS, matrix control system..! AnyWay. |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I am trying to help someone else at the same time. I see a Pattern. Thoughts are energy. They manifest in the 3D world, whether we choose to believe or not. And I am working with a thought template....! Hopping that the one creating this pattern will read my WORDS has a warning before the TestMe_Light.sys is activated on him by the MCS, matrix control system..! AnyWay. There is a pattern. Several. One has to do with the Moon. Rituals. You and Dion were the only two who warned me, when I walked headlong into the Secrets thread. I think you both knew immediately, that I was the perfect mark. And here we are..all these years later. I haven't been free of it, more than a few days since 2012. I get breaks. Thankful for that. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77676469 Canada 05/25/2019 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77676469 I grew up in a whorehouse. Im familiar with every type of freak. The motiva ion is trauma and succor. Some want to vomit trauma into others and watch the record skip.others want to be lost i. The skip...loop. I seems like frottage to me. Remember, homosex al trauma rituals are being perpetuated as 'normal' sexuality these days. I grew up in a Christian home, went to private school, while praying and singing to Jesus. This isn't a fetish for me. It's a nightmare. One that often makes me feel like God has abandoned me..or doesn't exist at all..which I believe is Satan's entire purpose. I didn't call it Hell, because it was fun. You know what he said about you and a few other male members of this forum, to me in that horrible chat? He told me, you asked him, to share me, with you. While I didn't believe it for 1 second..it still messed with my head to think he would even consider saying that to me. Because it's what is inside his head. It lessens guilt by implying others want the same. The want to normalize or create peer norms. It makes it seem more trivial. Listen to interviews with serial killers and watch them perpetrate the same. Lies are built on the jelly of shame. I know your personality, the personalities of the others well enough, to know none of you would ever approach aether like that. I went into shock after that convo and don't recall much about the week after.. Satan is the Father of Lies. He lies about everything, while still telling the truth. He hypnotizes people by the way he communicates. That's why I constantly post the Jessica Jones trailer. That's how I feel about it and have since 2015. I've been on the run. He will not let me go. It isn't love. It's obsession. K told me he was obsessed with me. He is coward and will never directly respond to people like me, and many others..to the things we know he's done. I don't know what to do. I tried everything. Satan, to me, is misdirection. A coping and projection mechanism. Why within christianity is satan the light while constant references abound toward Jesus being the light bringer. Very paradoxical and very promethean. A shell game. |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's what is inside his head. It lessens guilt by implying others want the same. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77676469 The want to normalize or create peer norms. It makes it seem more trivial. Listen to interviews with serial killers and watch them perpetrate the same. Lies are built on the jelly of shame. I know your personality, the personalities of the others well enough, to know none of you would ever approach aether like that. I went into shock after that convo and don't recall much about the week after.. Satan is the Father of Lies. He lies about everything, while still telling the truth. He hypnotizes people by the way he communicates. That's why I constantly post the Jessica Jones trailer. That's how I feel about it and have since 2015. I've been on the run. He will not let me go. It isn't love. It's obsession. K told me he was obsessed with me. He is coward and will never directly respond to people like me, and many others..to the things we know he's done. I don't know what to do. I tried everything. Satan, to me, is misdirection. A coping and projection mechanism. Why within christianity is satan the light while constant references abound toward Jesus being the light bringer. Very paradoxical and very promethean. A shell game. I understand that aspect. That's not the reason I call aether, Satan. Also not the first time I have. You all have got to see the pattern. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76772326 United Kingdom 05/25/2019 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I am trying to help someone else at the same time. I see a Pattern. Thoughts are energy. They manifest in the 3D world, whether we choose to believe or not. And I am working with a thought template....! Hopping that the one creating this pattern will read my WORDS has a warning before the TestMe_Light.sys is activated on him by the MCS, matrix control system..! AnyWay. There is a pattern. Several. One has to do with the Moon. Rituals. You and Dion were the only two who warned me, when I walked headlong into the Secrets thread. I think you both knew immediately, that I was the perfect mark. And here we are..all these years later. I haven't been free of it, more than a few days since 2012. I get breaks. Thankful for that. Life will always RETURN Measure By Measure SEER it can take SOMETIME but it always faster when I am Observing it. Yes I warned You. But You know HOW I dislike drama on forum and avoid becoming distracted by trivial facts, such as he-said/she-said drama that is plentiful but worthless for me to invest time and energy. I always go straight to the Point I cannot and should not override freewill, but I can help people use it...I cannot reverse people’s choices, but you can help them make more informed ones. This means my energy isn’t spent preaching, but rather sharing what I see and know so that those who have yet to choose can use it for their betterment. But Most of the TIME NOBODY Listen. |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I am trying to help someone else at the same time. I see a Pattern. Thoughts are energy. They manifest in the 3D world, whether we choose to believe or not. And I am working with a thought template....! Hopping that the one creating this pattern will read my WORDS has a warning before the TestMe_Light.sys is activated on him by the MCS, matrix control system..! AnyWay. There is a pattern. Several. One has to do with the Moon. Rituals. You and Dion were the only two who warned me, when I walked headlong into the Secrets thread. I think you both knew immediately, that I was the perfect mark. And here we are..all these years later. I haven't been free of it, more than a few days since 2012. I get breaks. Thankful for that. Life will always RETURN Measure By Measure SEER it can take SOMETIME but it always faster when I am Observing it. Yes I warned You. But You know HOW I dislike drama on forum and avoid becoming distracted by trivial facts, such as he-said/she-said drama that is plentiful but worthless for me to invest time and energy. I always go straight to the Point I cannot and should not override freewill, but I can help people use it...I cannot reverse people’s choices, but you can help them make more informed ones. This means my energy isn’t spent preaching, but rather sharing what I see and know so that those who have yet to choose can use it for their betterment. But Most of the TIME NOBODY Listen. It was the first time you had spoke to me, and I knew immediately you were right. I took immediate steps to remedy my error. It was too late. For me. Even up that short time..was enough to..do all this. Or at least get the ball rolling. I've been looking for the others that experience this level of energy all day every day, ever since. but keep getting frustrated when I find out that are not so many. But then I think they stay quiet and I know why. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76772326 United Kingdom 05/25/2019 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I stay quiet because I don't want To hurt anyone. I know What My Spirit can DO Seer. AnyWay. Just to repeat Myself I already told here We have relationships on every level with everything. How we connect with the world makes changes in how the world connects with us. Our inner bodies are powerful collections of energy pools layered and connected to even more powerful aspects and dimensions of reality that very few people on this planet understand or are willing to talk about in public. The mind itself has more energy potential than any hydrogen bomb and playing in that warehouse is like lighting a pack of matches in a gunpowder factory. |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I stay quiet because I don't want To hurt anyone. I know What My Spirit can DO Seer. AnyWay. I stay quiet for several reasons.. I would like to speak more than I do, but restrain myself until the timing presents properly. I think a bunch of the 'psychics' have been tortured. If not all of us. Not wanting to hurt people..has been a challenge for me.. I've seen a lot of horrible stuff and pray for God's vengeance. Justice. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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xenophon User ID: 75544821 Australia 05/25/2019 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been looking for the others that experience this level of energy all day every day, ever since. Quoting: Seer777 but keep getting frustrated when I find out that are not so many. But then I think they stay quiet and I know why. There are more than you think but many have withdrawn from the rat race. Their experience and knowledge is rejected by most, they're public enemy number 1 as far as the system/matrix goes I agree with the above poster, resonate as much unconditional love and compassion as humanly possible in these trying times. That's the best anyone can do. The darkness will always be there, as long as transmutation is taking place one is on the right path regardless of personal circumstances the 3rd shaking |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been looking for the others that experience this level of energy all day every day, ever since. Quoting: Seer777 but keep getting frustrated when I find out that are not so many. But then I think they stay quiet and I know why. There are more than you think but many have withdrawn from the rat race. Their experience and knowledge is rejected by most, they're public enemy number 1 as far as the system/matrix goes I agree with the above poster, resonate as much unconditional love and compassion as humanly possible in these trying times. That's the best anyone can do. The darkness will always be there, as long as transmutation is taking place one is on the right path regardless of personal circumstances It's understandable. The Web is not what it was and the lock down is obvious everywhere. You were there at the beginning too Xen. I remember our eyes are the same color green. Does your 3rd eye flare a lot? Like now? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77679462 United States 05/25/2019 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LMAO You must have the old man blocked, hon. He's moved on from your labyrinth. He is frolicking in a Glade, hearing secrets from here and there. I can't tell, he talks like someone beat him in the head and face with sticks. It's basically nonsensical gibberish and circular narratives. But! He seems happy, Seer. Leave him alone, my goodness, woman. You're going to kill him, talking all this nonsense. You're mean, Seer. Shame on you! |
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Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try not to pretend you know more of what I'm talking about, than me. Quoting: Seer777 You have no idea what that man is. Don't forget..I have it all in own words. Pages and pages of it. Pages and page of what exactly? Poster above seems well informed. Of the chat log I've been talking about all day. It's really, really long. Do you presume to defend aether here? Don't. Let him do it himself. Go your own way. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
xenophon User ID: 75544821 Australia 05/25/2019 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been looking for the others that experience this level of energy all day every day, ever since. Quoting: Seer777 but keep getting frustrated when I find out that are not so many. But then I think they stay quiet and I know why. There are more than you think but many have withdrawn from the rat race. Their experience and knowledge is rejected by most, they're public enemy number 1 as far as the system/matrix goes I agree with the above poster, resonate as much unconditional love and compassion as humanly possible in these trying times. That's the best anyone can do. The darkness will always be there, as long as transmutation is taking place one is on the right path regardless of personal circumstances It's understandable. The Web is not what it was and the lock down is obvious everywhere. You were there at the beginning too Xen. I remember our eyes are the same color green. Does your 3rd eye flare a lot? Like now? Big time, following a few years of inactivity. Inner white auras from trees and animals are most prominent. Also white particles resembling neutrinos constantly appear during daylight. See way less spirits these days, the odd one here and there. Vortex activity is strong when I close my eyes The flaring is from kundalini rising from the neck/throat through the 3rd eye and head. Got one now! We have made it so far I strongly believe we will be triumphant! It may also be aligned with the magnetic pole shift for us. Not long to go the 3rd shaking |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/25/2019 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are more than you think but many have withdrawn from the rat race. Their experience and knowledge is rejected by most, they're public enemy number 1 as far as the system/matrix goes Quoting: xenophon I agree with the above poster, resonate as much unconditional love and compassion as humanly possible in these trying times. That's the best anyone can do. The darkness will always be there, as long as transmutation is taking place one is on the right path regardless of personal circumstances It's understandable. The Web is not what it was and the lock down is obvious everywhere. You were there at the beginning too Xen. I remember our eyes are the same color green. Does your 3rd eye flare a lot? Like now? Big time, following a few years of inactivity. Inner white auras from trees and animals are most prominent. Also white particles resembling neutrinos constantly appear during daylight. See way less spirits these days, the odd one here and there. Vortex activity is strong when I close my eyes The flaring is from kundalini rising from the neck/throat through the 3rd eye and head. Got one now! We have made it so far I strongly believe we will be triumphant! It may also be aligned with the magnetic pole shift for us. Not long to go How does the vortex present to you? In the forehead? Have you considered that Kundalini is really more like Shaktipat and a form of telepathy between those of us whom are able? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77679487 United States 05/25/2019 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try not to pretend you know more of what I'm talking about, than me. Quoting: Seer777 You have no idea what that man is. Don't forget..I have it all in own words. Pages and pages of it. Pages and page of what exactly? Poster above seems well informed. Of the chat log I've been talking about all day. It's really, really long. Do you presume to defend aether here? Don't. Let him do it himself. Go your own way. LoL bye |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/26/2019 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what's funny? I recall being the one defending him.. way back when. I was warned by the other females.. in a way..that only made sense, years later. Then I became them. Maybe some day..you'll be here and I'll be where they are. Hope you aren't. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
xenophon User ID: 75544821 Australia 05/26/2019 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are more than you think but many have withdrawn from the rat race. Their experience and knowledge is rejected by most, they're public enemy number 1 as far as the system/matrix goes Quoting: xenophon I agree with the above poster, resonate as much unconditional love and compassion as humanly possible in these trying times. That's the best anyone can do. The darkness will always be there, as long as transmutation is taking place one is on the right path regardless of personal circumstances It's understandable. The Web is not what it was and the lock down is obvious everywhere. You were there at the beginning too Xen. I remember our eyes are the same color green. Does your 3rd eye flare a lot? Like now? Big time, following a few years of inactivity. Inner white auras from trees and animals are most prominent. Also white particles resembling neutrinos constantly appear during daylight. See way less spirits these days, the odd one here and there. Vortex activity is strong when I close my eyes The flaring is from kundalini rising from the neck/throat through the 3rd eye and head. Got one now! We have made it so far I strongly believe we will be triumphant! It may also be aligned with the magnetic pole shift for us. Not long to go How does the vortex present to you? In the forehead? Have you considered that Kundalini is really more like Shaktipat and a form of telepathy between those of us whom are able? The vortex looks similar to spirits in electromagnetic form. Just larger with less symmetry. Pulsating orb like form Never heard of shaktipat, am a strong believer in telepathy. Am sure it it kundalini cos it started at the base of the spine and was stuck in my back and shoulders during those years of 3rd eye inactivity. Quite painful.. now it has moved up through the back and shoulders into neck/throat/head regions the 3rd shaking |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/26/2019 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seer777 It's understandable. The Web is not what it was and the lock down is obvious everywhere. You were there at the beginning too Xen. I remember our eyes are the same color green. Does your 3rd eye flare a lot? Like now? Big time, following a few years of inactivity. Inner white auras from trees and animals are most prominent. Also white particles resembling neutrinos constantly appear during daylight. See way less spirits these days, the odd one here and there. Vortex activity is strong when I close my eyes The flaring is from kundalini rising from the neck/throat through the 3rd eye and head. Got one now! We have made it so far I strongly believe we will be triumphant! It may also be aligned with the magnetic pole shift for us. Not long to go How does the vortex present to you? In the forehead? Have you considered that Kundalini is really more like Shaktipat and a form of telepathy between those of us whom are able? The vortex looks similar to spirits in electromagnetic form. Just larger with less symmetry. Pulsating orb like form Never heard of shaktipat, am a strong believer in telepathy. Am sure it it kundalini cos it started at the base of the spine and was stuck in my back and shoulders during those years of 3rd eye inactivity. Quite painful.. now it has moved up through the back and shoulders into neck/throat/head regions How do spirits appear to you? Shaktipat is the spiritual transference of energy from one person to another. It is how I think I was initially activated.. It doesn't hurt for me though. The sensation is always really pleasant, but annoying if I don't want it. Like if you don't want to see something you can close your eyes, plug your nose, or ears. Not this. Shaktipat can be equated to energy vampirism but only when the receiver is unwilling, to the 'guru' moving the..energy. The Force. It is called that for a reason. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 (OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77521852 United States 05/26/2019 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |