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the locals use all the trimmings to produce oil by placing it in medical alcohol to change it into oil over linear time and that is oooba sticky and potent
just the wood is not used
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My oldest deceased auntie was an honored roman catholic nun, the principal nun for many years running the mental and physically disabled sanatarium in her time in my home country, she was simply superb in her job…

My youngest auntie scanned all of her family shared letters of hers becoming a nun, reads like glp on steroids…
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In her early letters, she describes the same rituals performed on her as other countless nuns' whistleblower stories…
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Would like to hear more if you're willing to share.

I understand if you don't.
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It's a good pain though. One you earn to reap the benefit of. Which is what makes it worth it.

In the end.


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Random thought.

At what iteration of generations within Mouse Utopia, had the DNA trauma memory of the potential for starvation, been lost?

Is it a cargo cult thing based on the misunderstanding of where the food was coming from, which they no longer had to work for, during countless generations of evolution?

A breakdown of superstition rituals that later led to apathy?

hmm


An endless supply of food, water and other resources were still there for the mice, but it didn't matter. The behavior sink had set in, and there was no stopping Universe 25 from careening to its self-made demise.
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Speaking of multi-generational PTSD..

My brother called me on my birthday some days back. As a multi-decade geneticist working with zebra fish, I had a sudden question due to an event that happened at the zebra fish lab, a few years back.

There was a fire in the tank room and there was great loss of fish. Huge damage.

I asked him.Did you notice any strange behaviors from the fish that survived the fires?

He thought for a bit, not understanding my question and then said, Yeah..the fish that survived became incredibly aggressive. They would tear each apart and there was great egg loss.

I mentioned the study involving rats/monkeys and epigenetics and 'learned trauma through DNA'.

He said that for 3 generations the zebra fish, that were progeny of the survivors of the fire..fought incessantly. It took until the 4th generation for the fish to settle down. 3 generations.


Their tanks are fed by a river in here in Oregon and during the fires last September..the fish started to display the same behaviors they did after the tank fires years ago... multi-generations after the fire..because they could taste it in the water.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


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In the New York documentary it is mentioned that during the Great Potato Famine in Ireland and then the ensuing flight to America, that the Irish were relentlessly proselytized to, to convert them in order to assimilate them into 'Protestant America'.

They were considered 3/5 of a person, and were placed on the same 'level' as free NYC blacks who they had to fight for jobs.

The churches would only offer them services like food, if they were willing to be preached at.

Seeing a lot of this in history. Assimilate by religion. Maybe that is what the Borg really is.

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The early church would serve everyone a 'dish of beer' to put butts in the seats.


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A cargo cult is an indigenist millenarian belief system in which adherents perform rituals which they believe will cause a more technologically advanced society to deliver goods. These cults were first described in Melanesia in the wake of contact with allied military forces during the Second World War.

Isolated and pre-industrial island cultures that were lacking technology found soldiers and supplies arriving in large numbers, often by airdrop. The soldiers would trade with the islanders. After the war, the soldiers departed. Cargo cults arose, attempting to imitate the behaviors of the soldiers, thinking that this would cause the soldiers and their cargo to return. Some cult behaviors involved mimicking the day-to-day activities and dress styles of soldiers, such as performing parade ground drills with wooden or salvaged rifles.


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Wow thanks.

My last thoughts last night before sleep were in regard to manna.

This makes sense.

Cargo cults often develop during a combination of crises. Under conditions of social stress, such a movement may form under the leadership of a charismatic figure. This leader may have a "vision" (or "myth-dream") of the future, often linked to an ancestral efficacy ("mana") thought to be recoverable by a return to traditional morality.

This leader may characterize the present state as a dismantling of the old social order, meaning that social hierarchy and ego boundaries have been broken down.

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Imgur random algorithm, FTW.

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I recall reading years ago, that Brexit was like removing the egg from an already baked cake.

Recommend the video above on systems collapse. It was created in 2017. The end of this vid almost seemed like it tempted fate..and noticed it was mentioned in the comments.

Matthew Wu
5 months ago
"The appearance of a new disease, no problem, we can handle that." So much for that one.


Simon Bernard
1 year ago
World in 2020: *sweats in coronavirus crisis*

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Apparently the youtube algorithm is trying to tell me something about 2020.


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A cargo cult is an indigenist millenarian belief system in which adherents perform rituals which they believe will cause a more technologically advanced society to deliver goods. These cults were first described in Melanesia in the wake of contact with allied military forces during the Second World War.

Isolated and pre-industrial island cultures that were lacking technology found soldiers and supplies arriving in large numbers, often by airdrop. The soldiers would trade with the islanders. After the war, the soldiers departed. Cargo cults arose, attempting to imitate the behaviors of the soldiers, thinking that this would cause the soldiers and their cargo to return. Some cult behaviors involved mimicking the day-to-day activities and dress styles of soldiers, such as performing parade ground drills with wooden or salvaged rifles.


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Wow thanks.

My last thoughts last night before sleep were in regard to manna.

This makes sense.

Cargo cults often develop during a combination of crises. Under conditions of social stress, such a movement may form under the leadership of a charismatic figure. This leader may have a "vision" (or "myth-dream") of the future, often linked to an ancestral efficacy ("mana") thought to be recoverable by a return to traditional morality.

This leader may characterize the present state as a dismantling of the old social order, meaning that social hierarchy and ego boundaries have been broken down.

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The 'Cargo Cult' Devoted to American Soldier, John Frum | Waiting for John (2016) | Official Clip HD


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I recall reading years ago, that Brexit was like removing the egg from an already baked cake.

Recommend the video above on systems collapse. It was created in 2017. The end of this vid almost seemed like it tempted fate..and noticed it was mentioned in the comments.

Matthew Wu
5 months ago
"The appearance of a new disease, no problem, we can handle that." So much for that one.


Simon Bernard
1 year ago
World in 2020: *sweats in coronavirus crisis*

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qwertyuiop
1 year ago
Apparently the youtube algorithm is trying to tell me something about 2020.


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Thread: Facebook and Whats app Dead ..Offline
Let the Chaos start
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7 Staggering Statistics About America's Opioid Epidemic

In 2017, health care providers across the US wrote more than 191 million prescriptions for opioid pain medication-a rate of 58.7 prescriptions per 100 people.
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"steal" a dollar go to prison
steal a million you get reelected
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Rob a bank, go to jail.
Own a bank, rob the world..

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Do people like Mr. Robot really exist?

I'd like to think so..
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That was fun..while it lasted.


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Random thought.

At what iteration of generations within Mouse Utopia, had the DNA trauma memory of the potential for starvation, been lost?

Is it a cargo cult thing based on the misunderstanding of where the food was coming from, which they no longer had to work for, over countless generations of evolution?

A breakdown of superstition rituals that later led to apathy?

hmm


An endless supply of food, water and other resources were still there for the mice, but it didn't matter. The behavior sink had set in, and there was no stopping Universe 25 from careening to its self-made demise.
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Something I noticed over the last couple of months, is that my coral banded shrimp does a dance when it is hungry.

At first it stayed hidden but would come out every time I fed the tank. Now if I have been slow to feed, it will come out on its own acting like I had already fed the tank. This triggers me to remind me to feed them.

I trained the shrimp to dance for food and now when it dances, I feed it.

Food for thought.

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We carry it around in our pockets. We wear it on our wrists. We devote more than 10.5 hours a day to screen time.

Facebook has conducted experiments on us that show how susceptible we are to mind control. In 2012, the company secretly tampered with the news feeds of nearly 700,000 people, manipulating the ratio of emotionally positive to emotionally negative posts, then monitoring the subsequent activity of those users.

What they found is that emotions can be remotely controlled and are highly contagious on the platform. People who saw more unhappy posts showed more unhappy activity and vice versa. Many questioned the experiment’s legality and ethics, wondering if Facebook had triggered any suicides. Facebook apologized for the way the experiments were conducted and promised to conduct them “differently” in the future, with enhanced review.

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People are very easy to control using emotional triggers disguised as positive reinforcement, and the susceptibility to echo chamber in social media, is terrifying.

World of Warcraft utilized this same methodology when when they changed the word 'unrested' to 'normal' and 'normal' to 'rested'.


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Research

Informed consent is part of the ethical clinical research as well, in which a human subject voluntarily confirms his or her willingness to participate in a particular clinical trial, after having been informed of all aspects of the trial that are relevant to the subject's decision to participate. Informed consent is documented by means of a written, signed, and dated informed consent form. In medical research, the Nuremberg Code set a base international standard in 1947, which continued to develop, for example in response to the ethical violation in the Holocaust. Nowadays, medical research is overseen by an ethics committee that also oversees the informed consent process.

As the medical guidelines established in the Nuremberg Code were imported into the ethical guidelines for the social sciences, informed consent became a common part of the research procedure. However, while informed consent is the default in medical settings, it is not always required in the social science. Here, research often involves low or no risk for participants, unlike in many medical experiments. Second, the mere knowledge that they participate in a study can cause people to alter their behavior, as in the Hawthorne Effect: "In the typical lab experiment, subjects enter an environment in which they are keenly aware that their behavior is being monitored, recorded, and subsequently scrutinized."

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The birth of new online media, such as social media, has complicated the idea of informed consent. In an online environment people pay little attention to Terms of Use agreements and can subject themselves to research without thorough knowledge. This issue came to the public light following a study conducted by Facebook Inc. in 2014, and published by that company and Cornell University. Facebook conducted a study where they altered the Facebook News Feeds of roughly 700,000 users to reduce either the amount of positive or negative posts they saw for a week. The study then analyzed if the users status updates changed during the different conditions. The study was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The lack of informed consent led to outrage among many researchers and users. Many believed that by potentially altering the mood of users by altering what posts they see, Facebook put at-risk individuals at higher dangers for depression and suicide. However, supports of Facebook claim that Facebook details that they have the right to use information for research in their terms of use. Others say the experiment is just a part of Facebook's current work, which alters News Feeds algorithms continually to keep people interested and coming back to the site. Others pointed out that this specific study is not along but that news organizations constantly try out different headlines using algorithms to elicit emotions and garner clicks or Facebook shares.

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the rat believes he has trained the scientist to bring him food! stupid human! lol
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lol
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in a prison environment the prisoners cooperation for food is essential to its survival
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Are you saying Earth is a prison?

Maybe. Beside the point though.


I'm thinking the disconnect and misunderstanding of where sudden 'unlimited food comes from' on a long enough timeline, leads to behavior sink and eventual collapse as seen in Mouse Utopia.

Also, if you feed them, they will breed them comes to mind.
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Are you saying Earth is a prison?

Maybe. Beside the point though.


I'm thinking the disconnect and misunderstanding of where sudden 'unlimited food comes from' on a long enough timeline, leads to behavior sink and eventual collapse as seen in Mouse Utopia.

Also, if you feed them, they will breed them comes to mind.
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it is an emotional view point that arose in my closeness to you and what you do
my post sort of popped out of me
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It's a theory I'm working on in regard to the Bronze Age Collapse, Systems collapse, Famine, DNA, Evolution, trauma memory all in regard to food.

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Just stumbled on this.

Might inspire me to finally watch Monty Python.

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My first memory of you..


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