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aether User ID: 74480541 United Kingdom 01/11/2022 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Direct democracy or pure democracy is a form of democracy in which the electorate decides on policy initiatives without legislative representatives as proxies. Quoting: today[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Criticism of Tesla, Inc., especially under CEO Elon Musk, ranges from potential safety issues to questionable business practices which include alleged fraud,[1] a history of environmental violations,[2] disregard for workers' safety,[3][4] and Musk's excessive compensation package.[5] Tesla and Musk have also been criticized for their attempts to intimidate and silence whistleblowers, journalists, and other critics who have spoken out against the company.... ....In order to gain shareholder support for the buyout, Musk unveiled the Solar Roof in October 2016, but the Solar Roof tiles that Musk displayed were later revealed to be fake [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Etc, etc do you never notice what the topic is Sometimes you should pay attention to who's delivering the message, and why. Wonder what laws he's thinking of "rolling back" *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
aether User ID: 74480541 United Kingdom 01/11/2022 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Direct democracy or pure democracy is a form of democracy in which the electorate decides on policy initiatives without legislative representatives as proxies. Quoting: today[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
aether User ID: 74480541 United Kingdom 01/11/2022 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Criticism of Tesla, Inc., especially under CEO Elon Musk, ranges from potential safety issues to questionable business practices which include alleged fraud,[1] a history of environmental violations,[2] disregard for workers' safety,[3][4] and Musk's excessive compensation package.[5] Tesla and Musk have also been criticized for their attempts to intimidate and silence whistleblowers, journalists, and other critics who have spoken out against the company.... ....In order to gain shareholder support for the buyout, Musk unveiled the Solar Roof in October 2016, but the Solar Roof tiles that Musk displayed were later revealed to be fake [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Etc, etc do you never notice what the topic is Sometimes you should pay attention to who's delivering the message, and why. Wonder what laws he's thinking of "rolling back" it might be satan or an alien huh |
aether User ID: 74480541 United Kingdom 01/11/2022 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Direct democracy or pure democracy is a form of democracy in which the electorate decides on policy initiatives without legislative representatives as proxies. Quoting: today[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] no one has to wait for Mars we can ignite it here easy oeaxy technically is there justice for everyone in that |
Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sol-tari Criticism of Tesla, Inc., especially under CEO Elon Musk, ranges from potential safety issues to questionable business practices which include alleged fraud,[1] a history of environmental violations,[2] disregard for workers' safety,[3][4] and Musk's excessive compensation package.[5] Tesla and Musk have also been criticized for their attempts to intimidate and silence whistleblowers, journalists, and other critics who have spoken out against the company.... ....In order to gain shareholder support for the buyout, Musk unveiled the Solar Roof in October 2016, but the Solar Roof tiles that Musk displayed were later revealed to be fake [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Etc, etc do you never notice what the topic is Sometimes you should pay attention to who's delivering the message, and why. Wonder what laws he's thinking of "rolling back" it might be satan or an alien huh Who are you claiming is Satan now? You know I don't buy into that book, right? *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Direct democracy or pure democracy is a form of democracy in which the electorate decides on policy initiatives without legislative representatives as proxies. Quoting: today[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] no one has to wait for Mars we can ignite it here easy oeaxy technically is there justice for everyone in that Depends on how it's operated. Free and educated citizens voting, or similar climate to now where you can convince people to vote ageist their best interests because of a fear factor "We must lower corporate taxes for trickle down effect!" Record profits, even more homeless *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
aether User ID: 74480541 United Kingdom 01/11/2022 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Direct democracy or pure democracy is a form of democracy in which the electorate decides on policy initiatives without legislative representatives as proxies. Quoting: today[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] no one has to wait for Mars we can ignite it here easy oeaxy technically is there justice for everyone in that Depends on how it's operated. Free and educated citizens voting, or similar climate to now where you can convince people to vote ageist their best interests because of a fear factor "We must lower corporate taxes for trickle down effect!" Record profits, even more homeless lovley do you enjoy the notion of it functioning here on earth for and on behalf of modern man all of us |
Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no one has to wait for Mars we can ignite it here easy oeaxy technically is there justice for everyone in that Depends on how it's operated. Free and educated citizens voting, or similar climate to now where you can convince people to vote ageist their best interests because of a fear factor "We must lower corporate taxes for trickle down effect!" Record profits, even more homeless lovley do you enjoy the notion of it functioning here on earth for and on behalf of modern man all of us It's not the system used, but the people in charge of it and their intentions. Virtually every style of government has had success if those in charge have the right motives, and likewise they've all failed when the wrong motives lead the way *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
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aether User ID: 74480541 United Kingdom 01/11/2022 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does it never cross your mind that it is beyond us and it always was Quoting: aether it being that which describe that never is thus ai is direct democracy with no people in charge of in charge that we possess the technology to do now it is currently in the philosophy department becoming humanised |
Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking in rather broad strokes here without getting into the nitty-gritty of course. Theoretically they all work - lots of empires throughout history with various levels of success that demonstrate it, as well as examples where my point of those in charge being a cornerstone to the whole affair can lead it to rather rapid destruction. A modern example being near 30trillion in debt and unwanted wars, despite electing people for over a decade that campaigned on ending those wars. And while there may be geopolitical motivations for why such things can change when a person reaches office without simply hand waving "empty promises to garner votes", keeping the citizens in the dark over such would be no different then convincing musks democracy voters to go to war via government/interests propoganda *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does it never cross your mind that it is beyond us and it always was Quoting: aether it being that which describe that never is thus ai is direct democracy with no people in charge of in charge that we possess the technology to do now it is currently in the philosophy department becoming humanised Depends on the programming, so to speak. No different then humans really - may be able to form its own conclusions, but that depends not only upon the above, but also the information presented to it. Co-operation would be the way to go *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
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aether User ID: 74480541 United Kingdom 01/11/2022 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | global force majure is the only legal way to avoid usa debt default while maintaining station as world system leader Quoting: aether art of a deal is the feel of divine intervention likley america being our system leader will be the first to switch to it and russia with china can agree to that and switch themselves by uniting their systems to fit america and the rest will agree Quoting: aether civilian only system that sort of thing we have a few things going on now we are in year 3 steo by step Last Edited by aether on 01/11/2022 08:45 PM |
Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | global force majure is the only legal way to avoid usa debt default while maintaining station as world system leader Quoting: aether art of a deal is the feel of divine intervention likley america being our system leader will be the first to switch to it and russia with china can agree to that and switch themselves by uniting their systems to fit america and the rest will agree Quoting: aether civilian only system that sort of thing we have a few things going on now we are in year 3 steo by step There's a great comment on your Musk clip exploration of space cannot even begin without togetherness/service to others. just like in farms of animals, service to others is claimed by poor billionaires (dough, in clear service to themselves). the galactic community would not even remotely allow us there until we show at least first traces of planetary intelligence. Getting to the point of requiring open cooperation and an entirely new system, not the same one with a few extra bells and whistles added on *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
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Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriously please read what is said you read like a troll or anarchist or negative nelly or bully Quoting: aether It's almost like looking at how things are run, such as the public face presented by America, does not inspire confidence as them presenting as world leaders, anymore then china's current system. Rather not go into massive debt because a hospital is required for a simple example You can skip my posts if you'd like =) *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
Vafþrúðnir User ID: 81818293 United States 01/11/2022 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's earth. Quoting: Sol-tari Not america Not China Not my group All groups Avoid debt default and remain world leader, fucking hell. Let's cold war again! Most have seemingly forgotten what the genuine honing of positions, beliefs and ideas look like without taking any eventual friction overly personal. This old proverb is eternally valid, imho: “Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of another.” We all learn to varying degrees in different ways, of course, but even at it's most gentle - as long as we remain sentient beings - genuine learning will produce friction. I'll openly admit I often take this adage to it's rough edges, but only because I learn the most from others in doing so. That said, I think you elucidate your particular positions well, and although I may not personally agree with all of them, I can still appreciate your style of argument (in the classical sense) without taking them as a direct and vicious personal repudiation. Keep up the good honest fight Sol - because it's the only good fight there is. Last Edited by Vafþrúðnir on 01/11/2022 11:25 PM |
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Sol-tari User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's earth. Quoting: Sol-tari Not america Not China Not my group All groups Avoid debt default and remain world leader, fucking hell. Let's cold war again! Most have seemingly forgotten what the genuine honing of positions, beliefs and ideas look like without taking any eventual friction overly personal. This old proverb is eternally valid, imho: “Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of another.” We all learn to varying degrees in different ways, of course, but even at it's most gentle - as long as we remain sentient beings - genuine learning will produce friction. I'll openly admit I often take this adage to it's rough edges, but only because I learn the most from others in doing so. That said, I think you elucidate your particular positions well, and although I may not personally agree with all of them, I can still appreciate your style of argument (in the classical sense) without taking them as a direct and vicious personal repudiation. Keep up the good honest fight Sol - because it's the only good fight there is. Thank you for saying as much Got no problem having a bit of a spar, and if my manner is direct and offends, or in your example rougher iron that catches others edges, I can live with that *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
Vafþrúðnir User ID: 81818293 United States 01/11/2022 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But you guys get a sneak peace of the kinds of things I teach my closest friends, privately. Quoting: ~Breezy~ Why can't you 'teach' them publicly? :) stop asking such direct and simple questions, it confuses the master, apparently :) He's still learning. We all are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77769393 United States 01/11/2022 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But you guys get a sneak peace of the kinds of things I teach my closest friends, privately. Quoting: ~Breezy~ Why can't you 'teach' them publicly? :) stop asking such direct and simple questions, it confuses the master, apparently :) He's still learning. We all are. in deed |
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