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Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!

 
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Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
There were two of each prophets. The Bible demonstrates this with the 2 genealogies of Christ in Mathew and Luke. Christ's true line goes through Solomon, not Nathan. The false christs bloodline lived on and their story is told quite succinctly in the Da Vinci Code (Ian Mckellen scene). It really is no conspiracy lol.

This also occurred with Muhammed if you are aware of his true story. There was also 2, one being the true, the other being false.

[link to www.angelfire.com]

These prophets and their messages were never competing in their true form. The duty of the false prophets was merely to destroy their original message.

Like Christ, he came to teach his people. This also applies to Muhammed as well.


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Muhammed status as a "prophet" is a lie given to him by the catholic church.

Seeing as the koran predates Muhammed he did not write it.

[link to dailycaller.com]



He was "assigned" the role of prophet by the rcc. Not ordained.


He was a murderous illiterate paedophile. Nothing more.
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I guess he meant him, Jesus, a lot do.

Just like that woman, honor no disgrace to them yes. Only a christian would bury her, any handy?

Have you ever heard of entertaining Angel unaware? Should be interesting. Don't you think, it sure isn't me! Shade, only the shadow knows. Got to go!
Sorry I got a headache

These are the times that tries men's and
women's souls!

May we come though it victorious!
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Can we actually see a List of Prophecies mo maid and there fulfillment plz
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I guess he meant him, Jesus, a lot do.

Just like that woman, honor no disgrace to them yes. Only a christian would bury her, any handy?

Have you ever heard of entertaining Angel unaware? Should be interesting. Don't you think, it sure isn't me! Shade, only the shadow knows. Got to go!
 Quoting: hankie


wtf
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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Re: Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
Muhammed status as a "prophet" is a lie given to him by the catholic church.

Seeing as the koran predates Muhammed he did not write it.

[link to dailycaller.com]



He was "assigned" the role of prophet by the rcc. Not ordained.


He was a murderous illiterate paedophile. Nothing more.
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


More lies mixed in with truth.
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I guess he meant him, Jesus, a lot do.

Just like that woman, honor no disgrace to them yes. Only a christian would bury her, any handy?

Have you ever heard of entertaining Angel unaware? Should be interesting. Don't you think, it sure isn't me! Shade, only the shadow knows. Got to go!
 Quoting: hankie


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Re: Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
Muhammed status as a "prophet" is a lie given to him by the catholic church.

Seeing as the koran predates Muhammed he did not write it.

[link to dailycaller.com]



He was "assigned" the role of prophet by the rcc. Not ordained.


He was a murderous illiterate paedophile. Nothing more.
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


More lies mixed in with truth.
 Quoting: Saracen 71011405


Sorry to burst your bubble Achmed, but there was no lie in what was written.

The catholic church invented your religion.
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Re: Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
Muhammed status as a "prophet" is a lie given to him by the catholic church.

Seeing as the koran predates Muhammed he did not write it.

[link to dailycaller.com]



He was "assigned" the role of prophet by the rcc. Not ordained.


He was a murderous illiterate paedophile. Nothing more.
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


More lies mixed in with truth.
 Quoting: Saracen 71011405


Sorry to burst your bubble Achmed, but there was no lie in what was written.

The catholic church invented your religion.
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


With the false one.

He had killed off most of Muhammeds family by then.
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Sunni is the false followers? Are you implying Shia as the true version?

I find Gnostics to be closest to the Christian spiritual path and as such, sufis within islam.

Though I don't think any religion captures the flag

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It's no contest. God's son versus a high level demon. Jesus is King.
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Sunni is the false followers? Are you implying Shia as the true version?

I find Gnostics to be closest to the Christian spiritual path and as such, sufis within islam.

Though I don't think any religion captures the flag
 Quoting: Lole Ibn Plutoon


Neither because both Sunni and Shi'ite have been corrupted. Modern day Islam is a product of Jewish and Jesuit scholars.

Sharia law and the hadiths were never apart of the original koran. They are all later additions to the scriptures once the true Muhammeds family and supporters were out of the picture.
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It's no contest. God's son versus a high level demon. Jesus is King.
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Jesus was not King!!

He was a prophet and if you are not aware, a prophet comes with a message.

Who's message you might ask?

Yah's or Jacobs message!

This also applies to Muhammed.

The true king of earth took leave to let a lesser king/(g)od come in and experiment with his original creation.

Remember creation is only 6000 years old.

Idol1
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The Matrix Reloaded talks about this appearance of the 'anomaly'/christ like figure/prophet who would always figure out the construct or matrix and try to destroy it or lead a revolution against it. The scene in which Neo talks to the Architect, he says there were six other versions of him who came before. This lines up with the actual messiahs who came before in history, from Rama to Elijah.

They tell us folks, its only a matter of actually recognizing it.
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I guess he meant him, Jesus, a lot do.

Just like that woman, honor no disgrace to them yes. Only a christian would bury her, any handy?

Have you ever heard of entertaining Angel unaware? Should be interesting. Don't you think, it sure isn't me! Shade, only the shadow knows. Got to go!
 Quoting: hankie


:samenglish:
 Quoting: LunaticBum


Jewish robot glitched…
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Re: Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
There were two of each prophets. The Bible demonstrates this with the 2 genealogies of Christ in Mathew and Luke. Christ's true line goes through Solomon, not Nathan. The false christs bloodline lived on and their story is told quite succinctly in the Da Vinci Code (Ian Mckellen scene). It really is no conspiracy lol.

This also occurred with Muhammed if you are aware of his true story. There was also 2, one being the true, the other being false.

[link to www.angelfire.com]

These prophets and their messages were never competing in their true form. The duty of the false prophets was merely to destroy their original message.

Like Christ, he came to teach his people. This also applies to Muhammed as well.


Idol1
 Quoting: Saracen 71011405


The Quran makes it clear that Jesus was never crucified, or died at all.

The NT makes it clear that Jesus was crucified and died for our sins.

Both can't be right, there's no alternate Quran / story, that says Jesus died for our sins.

In addition here's a contrast of Muhammad's life and teachings compared to Jesus

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)


"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)


Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)


Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)


Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)


Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)


"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)


Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)


Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)


Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.


Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.


Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.


Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)


Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)


Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)


Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)


What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)


Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)


Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.


Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)
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Re: Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
There were two of each prophets. The Bible demonstrates this with the 2 genealogies of Christ in Mathew and Luke. Christ's true line goes through Solomon, not Nathan. The false christs bloodline lived on and their story is told quite succinctly in the Da Vinci Code (Ian Mckellen scene). It really is no conspiracy lol.

This also occurred with Muhammed if you are aware of his true story. There was also 2, one being the true, the other being false.

[link to www.angelfire.com]

These prophets and their messages were never competing in their true form. The duty of the false prophets was merely to destroy their original message.

Like Christ, he came to teach his people. This also applies to Muhammed as well.


Idol1
 Quoting: Saracen 71011405


The Quran makes it clear that Jesus was never crucified, or died at all.

The NT makes it clear that Jesus was crucified and died for our sins.

Both can't be right, there's no alternate Quran / story, that says Jesus died for our sins.

In addition here's a contrast of Muhammad's life and teachings compared to Jesus

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)


"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)


Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)


Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)


Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)


Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)


"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)


Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)


Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)


Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.


Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.


Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.


Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)


Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)


Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)


Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)


What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)


Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)


Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.


Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60257580


Jesus never died, he was only in a coma and he ’©^Âly was crucified but it not occur for the sole reason to resolve our sins.

The problem you have is you have mixed lies with truth again. If only you would listen or read what has already been stated by me in this thread.
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Heres a tip

Instead of looking for contradictions between the religions look for agreements with eachother

A muslim scholar should come to the same conclusions.

The conflict at hand here is not one born out of faith. The conlict at hand is ungodliness.
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neither of them where prophets.
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The case of immigration is one of ungodly people.

Every Christian and muslim should know this.

If they do not, they are simply not of faith
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I mean is of ungodly people

So instead of blaming the fault at the religions blame the people in power

Who are not of faith
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It is said a bad shephard is the reason of wickedness which means people that rule

To correct myself
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Jesus was 675 years before Mohammed. Sure Jesus was never in competition, but Mohammad had to be, otherwise the Koran would have never been written.
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Jesus was 675 years before Mohammed. Sure Jesus was never in competition, but Mohammad had to be, otherwise the Koran would have never been written.
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Arabs arent white whites arent arab

Muslim scholars should also agree multi culti is not the perfect equation for peace

There is nothing racist about that
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Jesus was 675 years before Mohammed. Sure Jesus was never in competition, but Mohammad had to be, otherwise the Koran would have never been written.
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Christs true message had been lost.

Muhammed came to reiterate it.

Muhammed message was lost as well.

Elijah came to reiterate it.

You see the pattern?
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Jesus was 675 years before Mohammed. Sure Jesus was never in competition, but Mohammad had to be, otherwise the Koran would have never been written.
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Christs true message had been lost.

Muhammed came to reiterate it.

Muhammed message was lost as well.

Elijah came to reiterate it.

You see the pattern?
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Touche
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Jesus was 675 years before Mohammed. Sure Jesus was never in competition, but Mohammad had to be, otherwise the Koran would have never been written.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68560474


Arabs arent white whites arent arab

Muslim scholars should also agree multi culti is not the perfect equation for peace

There is nothing racist about that
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Take example of China

Though they still fuck up that is beside the point





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