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LightofChrist User ID: 47437800 ![]() 12/20/2015 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO ![]() Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49496169 ![]() 12/20/2015 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do we have to help them here? They can be helped in their own country. Find out how Syrian Christians are NOT being helped. What about the Coptic Christians in Egypt? The yhzidi? Save your judgement. Being a Christian does not mean being a robot, or having to take abuse, which is what you are doing. It's spiritual abuse to tell someone they aren't Christian if they don't do what you feel is right. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49496169 ![]() 12/20/2015 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO ![]() Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred. Thanks for the pointers Moses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70197472 ![]() 12/20/2015 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do we have to help them here? They can be helped in their own country. Find out how Syrian Christians are NOT being helped. What about the Coptic Christians in Egypt? The yhzidi? Save your judgement. Being a Christian does not mean being a robot, or having to take abuse, which is what you are doing. It's spiritual abuse to tell someone they aren't Christian if they don't do what you feel is right. Get behind me, Satan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19948123 ![]() 12/20/2015 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shut your face why don't you go live in some Muzz country if you think they're so great? How very Christian of you. It is Christian to say no to scum devil mutt demons and anyone who goes along with them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69123021 ![]() 12/20/2015 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said to obey the laws of the country you live in, and importing enemies of the state seeking to undermine the country is unconstitutional. Which means you have both a spiritual and lawful duty to oppose the refugees. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49496169 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do we have to help them here? They can be helped in their own country. Find out how Syrian Christians are NOT being helped. What about the Coptic Christians in Egypt? The yhzidi? Save your judgement. Being a Christian does not mean being a robot, or having to take abuse, which is what you are doing. It's spiritual abuse to tell someone they aren't Christian if they don't do what you feel is right. Get behind me, Satan. Come up with something better than that. I did not refuse to help anyone, but asked the question why they must be helped here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42366748 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO ![]() Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred. Christ never had to deal with nut job muslims who strap bombs on their back. Is that clear enough for you, you stupid ass bogan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1586715 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do we have to help them here? They can be helped in their own country. Find out how Syrian Christians are NOT being helped. What about the Coptic Christians in Egypt? The yhzidi? Save your judgement. Being a Christian does not mean being a robot, or having to take abuse, which is what you are doing. It's spiritual abuse to tell someone they aren't Christian if they don't do what you feel is right. Get behind me, Satan. Come up with something better than that. I did not refuse to help anyone, but asked the question why they must be helped here? You show your true colors with every post you make. False Christian, doing the devil's work. Enjoy your eternity in the lake of fire. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71067781 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO ![]() Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred. Christ never had to deal with nut job muslims who strap bombs on their back. Is that clear enough for you, you stupid ass bogan. you watch wayyyy too much teevee, Morty. |
FlashBuzzkill User ID: 68754170 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you wish to be free to go to a megachurch or any church for that matter these invadigrants must be stopped. The Caliphate existed for 1,200 years and only ended when England broke up the Ottoman empire. Europe thought by carving up the ME in to secular states they could contain Islam. It worked temporarily until we made them rich with oil money. To Islam this is war, quietly moving in then waiting for right time to rise up and take over. Just look at history if you don't believe me. Everywhere Muslims are the majority it becomes an Islamic state - the very antithesis of freedom. Stand up in church and remind the congregation that the Saudi woman was vetted 3 times even though she posted radical Islamic shit on the web thy let her in. San Bernardino was Obama and DHS fault. Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63773885 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do we have to help them here? They can be helped in their own country. how will you help then when America/Israel keeps dropping bombs on their heads? you must be a genius. More bombs should do it MooHAMhead |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9077173 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's not being a scumbag for not wanting to help Isis and their families. Most of the so called refugees are fake Syrians who are really Isis members and their families fleeing Russian bombings and assad's army. Notice this flood didn't start till Russia starting bombing the heck out of Isis. Isis are the ones that have murdered millions of Christians and plan on doing the same thing once they get here. There are no Syrian Christian refugees being allowed in despite the fact they are the ones being persecuted and murdered the most by Isis. Many of the refugees are fake Syrians using murdered Syrian's passports to come to the west and we have no way of knowing which ones are legit and which ones are not. Isis even had passport making machine so they can travel under false names. This is a nightmare in the making. |
Crim User ID: 71061390 ![]() 12/20/2015 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's not being a scumbag for not wanting to help Isis and their families. Most of the so called refugees are fake Syrians who are really Isis members and their families fleeing Russian bombings and assad's army. Notice this flood didn't start till Russia starting bombing the heck out of Isis. Isis are the ones that have murdered millions of Christians and plan on doing the same thing once they get here. There are no Syrian Christian refugees being allowed in despite the fact they are the ones being persecuted and murdered the most by Isis. Many of the refugees are fake Syrians using murdered Syrian's passports to come to the west and we have no way of knowing which ones are legit and which ones are not. Isis even had passport making machine so they can travel under false names. This is a nightmare in the making. THIS DRESSED IN THE FULL ARMOUR OF GOD -Helmet of salvation -Breastplate of righteousness -Belt of truth -Sword of the Holy Spirit -Shield of faith -Sandals of the gospel |
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