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My Church Wants to Support "Refugee's"....I almost puked during the presentation.

 
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.
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THESE ANTI-CHRIST MUSLIMS KNOW OF CHRIST AND DENY HIS DIVINITY AND KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD

HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM AS COMMANDED

2 Timothy 3:5
Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”

2 John 1:9
Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
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THESE ANTI-CHRIST MUSLIMS KNOW OF CHRIST AND DENY HIS DIVINITY AND KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD

HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM AS COMMANDED

2 Timothy 3:5
Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”

2 John 1:9
Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
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there isn't a single Christian who actually believes their "savior" (Jesus) when he claims "The Father is greater then I" (John 14:28)

why is that?

or.. how about this verse?

“Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only one that is good.” (Mt 19:17)

Aren't you supposed to actually believe what Jesus says pursuant to John 3:16?

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Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.


Which is not saying Caesar is good.

our government is Caesar today.

and it is not good.
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What Jesus meant when asked about paying HIS taxes was the above comment. It confused the men that heard him.

You owe GOD for everything, not anything man-made or created to steal from GOD's people; ex; IRS
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It is a "mega church" but does it belong to one of the main line denominations like Methodist or Lutheran or Baptist.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church of america, the Catholic church and another Baptist denomination make 10s of millions of $$ processing these people.

I beleive they hope to gain these people for numbers in their church, and/or just make money.

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It is a "mega church" but does it belong to one of the main line denominations like Methodist or Lutheran or Baptist.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church of america, the Catholic church and another Baptist denomination make 10s of millions of $$ processing these people.

I beleive they hope to gain these people for numbers in their church, and/or just make money.

[link to www.stopthemagnet.com]
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As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others

Like in human beings.
Muslims don´t see us as human beings,
but as "filth", and potential
slaughter material.

You don´t have to help that attitude.
Explain the church they want to
convert you all,or die.
And ask if they want their daughters
to wearing burka´s?

Btw they have their own church,
which is called a "mosk"
They have their own countries,
space enough.

I left my church as well.
Those Christen tards lost it in fairy tails.
It´s like letting hundreds of vipers in,
and then being surprised you get massively bitten.
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As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others

Like in human beings.
Muslims don´t see us as human beings,
but as "filth", and potential
slaughter material.

You don´t have to help that attitude.
Explain the church they want to
convert you all,or die.
And ask if they want their daughters
to wearing burka´s?

Btw they have their own church,
which is called a "mosk"
They have their own countries,
space enough.

I left my church as well.
Those Christen tards lost it in fairy tails.
It´s like letting hundreds of vipers in,
and then being surprised you get massively bitten.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71071630


You are swedish, so you know that's not true. They don't hate us. One of the Islamic laws is "don't enforce islam" that's definitely not what Christians have donever over the years. Both religions are made up as mind control tools anyway. And its seems to work pretty well.
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One of the Islamic laws is "don't enforce islam"
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Thank you for demonstrating taqiya for us.
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And you didn't speak up?
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And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL

Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches.
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I absolutely am not giving any more!
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If you know how to do it download this video and make DVDs or mp4's and pass them out, and tell people to copy and pass them out. One of the best history lessons out there by a Dr. Bill Warner PHD on the centuries old war of Islam against the West.


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bump

Cuz knowledge is power.
We don't learn from history, so we are damned to repeat it.

Also, if not for the crusades, we would ALL be speaking Arabic and wearing hijabs.
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
 Quoting: TrixieMama


Are you aware those refugees are real people right? Show some compassion. The world don't need any more hate. And I can say from my personal experience that I think muslims are more friendly than Christians. They are NOT evil people. ISIS are NOT Islam. That exactly what they want you to believe. Stop watching the news
 Quoting: Blueberry95


lol. Hey asshole. Are you taking personal responsibility if a refugee goes on jihad?

What If one goes on a Christian hunt like in San Bernadino? Why don't you post your name and number so I can give you a ring if anyone I know gets hurt or killed or threatened because of your advocacy to let in unvetted refugees?

You freakn' moran. Giving internet lectures on compassion and hate. Here's a clue. Hate is being so irresponsible that you are inviting people in to slaughter you, you're family and descendants.

You accuse other here of hate and lack of compassion and its clear you are a self hating shit for brains.
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As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others

Like in human beings.
Muslims don´t see us as human beings,
but as "filth", and potential
slaughter material.

You don´t have to help that attitude.
Explain the church they want to
convert you all,or die.
And ask if they want their daughters
to wearing burka´s?

Btw they have their own church,
which is called a "mosk"
They have their own countries,
space enough.

I left my church as well.
Those Christen tards lost it in fairy tails.
It´s like letting hundreds of vipers in,
and then being surprised you get massively bitten.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71071630


You are swedish, so you know that's not true. They don't hate us. One of the Islamic laws is "don't enforce islam" that's definitely not what Christians have donever over the years. Both religions are made up as mind control tools anyway. And its seems to work pretty well.
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Mind control? You buy into the notion that unlimited Muslim immigration into Europe is a good thing, for no reason or logic, but only because you been brain washed by left of Trotsky media propaganda and you want to call other people mind controlled?

I never get why you left wing Eu types even post on GLP. You are not sympatico. It must be the troll factor and the fact you live in such a left wing police state GLP would be illegal in Sweden.
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Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred.
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hesright
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You wouldn't know right if it bit you on the ass.

Amazing how many assholes want jihadist let in the country just because it irks their right of center neighbor, as though jihadists are going to make that distinction when the jihadist start jihading.

Fuck off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71060671


Most of them, if not all are those "Chosen People" of satan that want the western country destroyed for their own agenda.

Listen here, and it will be very clear, no need to beat around the bush, who are they and why they want it:





So, to be clear for you, who are those "more Christian" than the Christians in these threads and other! And of course their army of paid trolls, paid from the money stolen from us, of course.
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In America you have a lot of younger people who have been taught to hate anything traditionally American such a Christianity or being white or even sexual identity. All the cultural Marxist garbage.

So a Christian thread is pretty much red meat for those type. It makes me wonder how they deal with American movies and culture before say the year 2000 because the America portrayed back then is damn near everything they say they hate. Its that bad.
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Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.
 Quoting: Sloane


Yet we know the enemy is hidden among them so by your logic we should take them all in even if that means leting in our enemies to kill us. So if there was bowl of M&Ms and in amongst them was poison that would kill you but you have know way of knowing which M&Ms are the poison would you still eat the M&Ms or pass on it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9077173


And the refugee lovers don't answer me so by their silence it tells me they are hypocrites. They wouldn't eat the M&Ms that were mixed with poisonous ones but they are quite willing to bring in ISIS members posing as fake Syrian refugees to just to prove how good, nobel and charitable they are. Virtue signalling I think they call it in leftist circles.


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Thank you for posting these videos. I honestly had not heard of virtue signaling. I never changed my profile pic on fb or have fallen into that based on what was in the videos but I appreciated hearing what was said in both.

We have a BIG problem on our hands and it affects us all.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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The Jewish Family Council of Seattle is gung ho on importing refugees to Seattle-part of a larger plan to have sleeper cells in every major city
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I'm Jewish, according to the formal definition that my mother was Jewish.

I'm not familiar with the Jewish Family Council of Seattle and they may be a bunch of assholes. But don't assume that Jews generally want to infect our country with Muslims. We don't.
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The Jewish Family Council of Seattle is gung ho on importing refugees to Seattle-part of a larger plan to have sleeper cells in every major city
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I'm Jewish, according to the formal definition that my mother was Jewish.

I'm not familiar with the Jewish Family Council of Seattle and they may be a bunch of assholes. But don't assume that Jews generally want to infect our country with Muslims. We don't.
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Yeah, I think people are obsessed with Jews. They really only have a small postage stamp of land out in the ME. Completely unrelated to the issue and is 'irrational'. BTW, I have Jewish heritage too. I'm not part of the problem.
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My dad is a Jew. People absolutely are obsessed with labeling and bringing them into everything. My dad is totally against what is happening right now. It is totally ignorant to make a blanket assumption.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.
 Quoting: Sloane


So maybe only 1 in a hundred is an enemy.

That's 10,000 refujihadis out of a million.

If each can take out maim or kill a dozen people or more- what should we do?

Analogy I saw recently - if you had a big bowl of M&Ms and were told only one out of a hundred is poisoned- would you serve them to your children?

Would you let them take them to school?

Would you have them in your church or home?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71065600


Awesome analogy! Really puts it into perspective.smile_hear
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.
 Quoting: Sloane


Yet we know the enemy is hidden among them so by your logic we should take them all in even if that means leting in our enemies to kill us. So if there was bowl of M&Ms and in amongst them was poison that would kill you but you have know way of knowing which M&Ms are the poison would you still eat the M&Ms or pass on it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9077173


And the refugee lovers don't answer me so by their silence it tells me they are hypocrites. They wouldn't eat the M&Ms that were mixed with poisonous ones but they are quite willing to bring in ISIS members posing as fake Syrian refugees to just to prove how good, nobel and charitable they are. Virtue signalling I think they call it in leftist circles.


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Thank you for posting these videos. I honestly had not heard of virtue signaling. I never changed my profile pic on fb or have fallen into that based on what was in the videos but I appreciated hearing what was said in both.

We have a BIG problem on our hands and it affects us all.
 Quoting: TrixieMama


To my astonishment and delight, the phrase ‘virtue signalling’ has become part of the English language. I coined the phrase in an article here in The Spectator (18 April) in which I described the way in which many people say or write things to indicate that they are virtuous. Sometimes it is quite subtle. By saying that they hate the Daily Mail or Ukip, they are really telling you that they are admirably non-racist, left-wing or open-minded. One of the crucial aspects of virtue signalling is that it does not require actually doing anything virtuous. It does not involve delivering lunches to elderly neighbours or staying together with a spouse for the sake of the children. It takes no effort or sacrifice at all.

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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
 Quoting: TrixieMama


Jesus never welcomed the enemy into his home. This is what your church has done. They have opened the doors to evil. You need to leave the church and start following the church of Jesus within you.
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And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL

Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches.
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When I was growing up, my parents didn't have much money, but gave money and volunteered their time to our Catholic church. I had to go to church every Sunday and attend Sunday school.

As a teenager, I was forced to work at the church bingo every Wednesday and Sunday. The church took in hundreds of thousands; each worker was paid $2.00. My dad drove an old used Chevy, and all three priests drove new Cadillacs. Women sitting in the first pew every Sunday were evil gossips. I do not go to church anymore. It seems as if it's all about the money basket.
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I grew up as a Catholic, although I never believed in it, even as a small child. Guess I always sided with the Protestants. Anyway, the head of the school, this 9 foot tall old nun with one eye, used to yell at me each Monday because I didn't go to the school's preferred church, but to the Catholic church right near me for Sunday mass. Otherwise, I as an 8 year old (or whatever) would have had to walk - by myself as my parents didn't go - for blocks. I usually just told her I was going to go where I wanted to, but I remember one day I just told her she only wanted my nickel (for the collection plate). I think she was so shocked she stopped harrassing me.

Moral being, OP, always stick up to these authority figures - most of them are assholes. I knew that as a kid.
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Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.


Which is not saying Caesar is good.

our government is Caesar today.

and it is not good.
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Poor interpretation, but a COMMON ONE.
Caesar's face and inscription was on the coin, thus it was his property.
So when Jesus said,“Give what is Caesar's to Caesar,,,", it had a different meaning, it was not specifically about government or money
He continued with, “... and what is Jehovah's to Jehovah .”
So the context was not about government or money, but what was owed to or owned by, each one.
Physical government are owed your loyalty, if they do what is right in God's sight, but we owe everything to Jehovah, even our Lives.
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Jesus would be Sickened At the Religion That has formed in his Name .
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Not to mention the scumbag OP who claims to be Christian.
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Why do we have to help them here? They can be helped in their own country. Find out how Syrian Christians are NOT being helped. What about the Coptic Christians in Egypt? The yhzidi? Save your judgement.

Being a Christian does not mean being a robot, or having to take abuse, which is what you are doing. It's spiritual abuse to tell someone they aren't Christian if they don't do what you feel is right.
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Get behind me, Satan.
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Protip: "Christians" that viciously run other Christians down, are really not Christians.
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Dig this. Open your bible, read. BAM! Your in church. You can still donate to help your community with utilities or food, of course. Jesus IS The high priest. We don't need a "middle man" anymore.

I'm not ragging on any preachers, but yeah, if you hear them leading you to the culling blade, gtfo.

On the last day, many will say "but master, we prophesied and cast out demons in your name." And He will say, "I never knew you."

He is all knowing, lulz to those that believe they will escape out of His judgements. Best get your heart right.

I'm not perfect by any means, lmao. BUT, i don't have any desire to watch my fellowman suffer as i live on a pedestal. Screw that, i wanna see ALL prosper, unlike forked tounged holy men. And again, there are many wonderful preachers out there. Just be discerning.
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This. If you aren't sure of another starting place, start at Genesis 1:1.

And skip concordances and such. Just read the Word, in whatever translation you have available, skipping anyone else's commentary. I used KJV, but it's probably no better than other translations. The important thing is to start.
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My kids and I read the Bible every night. My son reads aloud to his little sister and I for about 2 hours each night. Longer on weekends. They are working on memorizing scripture so they keep it with them at all times. The day when Bibles will be outlawed is coming. We need to keep the Word of God with us at all times.
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Shut your face why don't you go live in some Muzz country if you think they're so great?
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How very Christian of you.
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God does not want us to be foolish. He wants us to be discerning and He knows there are terrorists mixed in with refugees and he does not want us to risk our families by bringing them here.

You people who tell Christians to do such idiotic things are of the devil and nobody should listen to you. You are not Christians. So shut the fuck up.
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THANK YOU !!!!
Perhaps these people should take a few hundred of these poor men , refugees to their homes WITH THEIR LITTLE SONS AND DAUGHTERS IN THE NEXT ROOMS ...let's see how many of them actually put up or shut up!!!
They have NO DISCERNMENT WHATSOEVER, but say we are not christians and Jesus wouldn't want it...OBVIOUSLY they've NEVER cracked open a Bible, or they would KNOW what Jesus really says ABOUT SUCH HEATHENISTIC PEOPLE!!!!!

HE DIDN'T JUST SAY IT ONCE OR TWICE BUT MANY TIMES , HE SAID ...FROM SUCH TURN AWAY!!!! WHAT FELLOWSHIP HATH LIGHT WITH DARKNESS? JESUS ASKED.

Christians ARE NOT to have fellowship in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, with darkness, or those WHO DENY JESUS CHRIST!!
FROM SUCH, TURN AWAY!!!

Real christians KNOW what God's word says, they KNOW where the wickedness lies, and it lies with ALL THOSE WHO INSIST ON TRYING TO MAKE SYRIANS , OR DEVOUT MUSLIMS OF ANY KIND OUR FRIENDS!!!!! PERIOD. PERIOD. END OF THE DISCUSSION , Because your argument is mute!
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They have no discernment because they worship a false prophet. We have a God given discernment which is why I posted this thread. God gives us wisdom and discernment to weed out truth from lies and to know right from wrong. All the people who are saying to take these people in are in for a rude awakening indeed.

Saw my mom today and she said yesterday while she was out she was a woman wearing a black burka pulling a suitcase up a steep street (it goes through the hills here connecting two cities a couple miles apart). She was pulling it through the dirt on the side of the road. Totally out of place. She also said she saw lots of m.e. men with cameras taking pics and while eating at soup plantation there was a table with young m.e. men who weren't eating, just watching everything happening n the restaurant.

We all need discernment and wisdom from God because shits gonna get real in the blink of an eye and i'd hate to see a good person lost on the wrong side.
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Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.
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Yet we know the enemy is hidden among them so by your logic we should take them all in even if that means leting in our enemies to kill us. So if there was bowl of M&Ms and in amongst them was poison that would kill you but you have know way of knowing which M&Ms are the poison would you still eat the M&Ms or pass on it?
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Its not exactly like you have to explain this analogy to cultural Marxists.

They can sniff out a Christian conservative MM in a candy bowl, just by someone saying a phrase like, "hard work."
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If you ask a " Muslim" if they believe in the Quran and the Hadith and they say yes, they ARE INDEED our enemy ...the Quran and the Hadith tell them to FIND THE INFIDEL WHEREVER THEY MAY HIDE, AND KILL THEM! !!!

AND THEY BELIEVE. ...HATRED " IS" instilled in them IF they tell you they believe in these books because the same books also tell them they are to LIE TO THEIR ENEMY AT ANY COST ...AT ANY COST!!!

Don't be deceived people , they SURE ARENT...THEY KNOW EXACTLY what their belief system is, do YOU?!!!
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"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
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And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL

Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches.
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Vote with your wallet and either leave the church or stop donating. Hopefully others were disgusted to hear about it too.
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Yep, but I'd go right to the source and let them know why I was leaving!
 Quoting: Just Trina


That probably won't do much good. They have their agenda, and they know some won't like it, so they'll sadly bid you farewell, secretly happy that a subversive is gone.

In a huge organization (MEGA church) what you don't want is subversives. It gets in the way of management effectiveness.

It would be more useful, therefore, to be subversive among the members. Talk to them about it during coffee after the service or whenever you can meet them.
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That is what i've already started doing. I've gotten in touch with my good friends who are in leadership as well as the groups I belong to. Me leaving on my own won't make a dent in a church of this size BUT if leadership starts to squirm with me the message is more likely to be heard and received.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I absolutely am not giving any more!
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If you know how to do it download this video and make DVDs or mp4's and pass them out, and tell people to copy and pass them out. One of the best history lessons out there by a Dr. Bill Warner PHD on the centuries old war of Islam against the West.


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bump

Cuz knowledge is power.
We don't learn from history, so we are damned to repeat it.

Also, if not for the crusades, we would ALL be speaking Arabic and wearing hijabs.
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Look at the Caravan to Midnight video I posted above. The nightmare for Europe is 6 months away. America a little longer. Don't give up guns or we will be fighting Jihadists with broom sticks.
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3+ hours?
OK, over Christmas vacation...
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The first 40 minutes or so is Bracken. The rest is Jim Willie. So less than 40 minutes and well worth it. IMHO, he's got it nailed. In a nutshell, Bracken postulates that the reason for the Islamic invasion is to destroy current EU national border and institute a giant EU superstate.

To do that, young jihadist are being shipped in along with guns and bombs. He thinks the carnage will be at WWI and WW II levels, and will not wait for years, but until the most radical think they have a chance, then the rest will follow at the same time, not piece meal. He gives a history lesson on something similar, the Tet offensive and the IRA bombing brought to London.
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Thanks for that summary, much appreciated.
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