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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

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Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred.
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Trixie, what's your denimination if you don't mind?
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Jesus would be Sickened At the Religion That has formed in his Name .
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Jesus does not approve of suicide. I have no doubt that Christians would be first in line to donate money to keep Syrians safe IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. There is no reason for them to be brought here or delivered to Europe. Why should we endanger our own children and their futures for a people who hate us?
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I bet you'll be the 1st to take in a couple dozen headchoppers
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For you it all comes down to how you kill a person.

The fact that americans have killed 30 million people around the world since the second world war, somehow does not make you the bad guy.

The more hitech weapons, the more ok.

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Once a church becomes a 501C3 or tax exempt they have to follow the agenda handed down from the admin.
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
 Quoting: TrixieMama


Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred.
 Quoting: LightofChrist 47437800


I am a Christian and I'm confident you are wrong. God tells us to love our enemies true, but that does NOT mean bringing your enemy into your house at night. Your belief is consistent with liberalism. How foolish you are.
Why not bring persecuted Christians to the US? That would be the biblical thing to do. OP, you are a sincere Christian and this is a good post. I suspect the above comment is sinecere but they lack discernment.
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tell your church

theres plenty of veterans, and homeless americans who need help first


then when there are no more homeless, then they can go help syria

til then, prioritize please
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Jesus would be Sickened At the Religion That has formed in his Name .
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Not to mention the scumbag OP who claims to be Christian.
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OP's not being a scumbag for not wanting to help Isis and their families. Most of the so called refugees are fake Syrians who are really Isis members and their families fleeing Russian bombings and assad's army. Notice this flood didn't start till Russia starting bombing the heck out of Isis. Isis are the ones that have murdered millions of Christians and plan on doing the same thing once they get here. There are no Syrian Christian refugees being allowed in despite the fact they are the ones being persecuted and murdered the most by Isis. Many of the refugees are fake Syrians using murdered Syrian's passports to come to the west and we have no way of knowing which ones are legit and which ones are not. Isis even had passport making machine so they can travel under false names. This is a nightmare in the making.
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This again.

It's a scam. Our jihadi white house commander is USING our emotions to give us to our enemies. This above post is as good as anything i can write. So read it, let it sink in. These.. people that come on tv telling you how safe you are, simply put, liars and murderers. Take your head out of the sand, if you believe oBaba is helping you.

And besides, we pay taxes AND tithe. Maybe these fucksticks spending our tax money should get saved, because they taking yo money, and spending it on crap that you either don't need, or giving it to fuckers that wanna kill us.
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I'm not sure if they're compassionate or in it for the money. I understand these churches are given a lot of federal funds when accepting refugees.

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You should have stood up and stated what is really happening with this so called refugee problem. No doubt others in your congregation share your opinions. If no one speaks out nothing will be done to stop it. The next time you go there you better say something.
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You should call them today or tomorrow at the latest and tell them these things. Talk to some other congregation members if you can, and get them to call or write a letter.

The pastor sounds extremely naive.
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You have to get up in front of the entire congregation, tell that man he is a lying agent of Satan, and then take your family - and your wallet - and WALK! Don't support ANYONE - church, politician, or business - who is going to SHIT ALL OVER YOU!! You need to put the interests of yourself, your family and your community FIRST because if you don't - no one else will.
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You should have stood up and stated what is really happening with this so called refugee problem. No doubt others in your congregation share your opinions. If no one speaks out nothing will be done to stop it. The next time you go there you better say something.
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You should call them today or tomorrow at the latest and tell them these things. Talk to some other congregation members if you can, and get them to call or write a letter.

The pastor sounds extremely naive.
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I'm willing to be he's on that refugee gravy train. LOT OF MONEY - OUR GOVERNMENT MONEY - is being paid out to these refugee pimps and this pastor is probably just another one with his hand out.
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Think long and hard over this:

Why are the Muslims so very upset about our very peaceful solution of simply not allowing them here?

Although they have shed blood on our soil and demanded our laws be changed to meet their culture, yet we are still are peaceful!
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You couldn't pay me to step foot into ANY corporate church these days.
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Jesus would be Sickened At the Religion That has formed in his Name .
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Not to mention the scumbag OP who claims to be Christian.
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I bet you'll be the 1st to take in a couple dozen headchoppers
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Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.
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Jesus would be Sickened At the Religion That has formed in his Name .
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Not to mention the scumbag OP who claims to be Christian.
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Shut your face why don't you go live in some Muzz country if you think they're so great?
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How very Christian of you.
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God does not want us to be foolish. He wants us to be discerning and He knows there are terrorists mixed in with refugees and he does not want us to risk our families by bringing them here.

You people who tell Christians to do such idiotic things are of the devil and nobody should listen to you. You are not Christians. So shut the fuck up.
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For those who say we are not "aligned with Christ":

We are doing EXACTLY as instructed by Jesus: being wise as serpents and as gentle as doves!!
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I bet you'll be the 1st to take in a couple dozen headchoppers
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For you it all comes down to how you kill a person.

The fact that americans have killed 30 million people around the world since the second world war, somehow does not make you the bad guy.

The more hitech weapons, the more ok.

s226
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30 million? Yeah. Why not give a break down of that claim with some historical documentation.

Instead of talking out of you Marxist ass on proxy. Eat shit, gamer boy.
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Reason #7369 why I'd never inter a church of my own free will.
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
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And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL

Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches.
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When I was growing up, my parents didn't have much money, but gave money and volunteered their time to our Catholic church. I had to go to church every Sunday and attend Sunday school.

As a teenager, I was forced to work at the church bingo every Wednesday and Sunday. The church took in hundreds of thousands; each worker was paid $2.00. My dad drove an old used Chevy, and all three priests drove new Cadillacs. Women sitting in the first pew every Sunday were evil gossips. I do not go to church anymore. It seems as if it's all about the money basket.

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Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.
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Not every refugee is a refugee.
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Run away OP.

All megachurches use mind control to keep you 'happy'.

Subliminals, NLP, all kinds of stuff encrypted into the media.

All they want is you $$$

We are Christians and never go to church.

Make an altar in your own home.
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Please remove the apostrophe in refugees. It is plural, just add an s. It is not difficult.
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mega churches are for sheep. sorry OP.
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Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.
 Quoting: Sloane


Of course they aren't all bad, but we do need a better way to sort out the ones who would create violence rather than just opening the doors to everyone as it seems they are doing now.

If they were asking for donations to take care of refugees NOT in our country, I'll bet many would donate; I would and do.

Has anyone heard anymore about the Egyptian billionaire who is buying an island in the Aegean Sea for refugees? That sounds like a worthy cause. If there were several places such as that, it could be a really nice solution to the refugees' plight.
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"Who decides?"
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I'm not sure if they're compassionate or in it for the money. I understand these churches are given a lot of federal funds.
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This is why the IRS wanted all literature and pamphlet information from said groups. It's about controlling the narrative everywhere.
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And What about the christian Syrians ?

If its not An American Christian it does not have a right to live .....?





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