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My Church Wants to Support "Refugee's"....I almost puked during the presentation.

 
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Jesus said to obey the laws of the country you live in, and importing enemies of the state seeking to undermine the country is unconstitutional. Which means you have both a spiritual and lawful duty to oppose the refugees.
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Very well said
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
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Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred.
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Christ never had to deal with nut job muslims who strap bombs on their back. Is that clear enough for you, you stupid ass bogan.
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"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Why do we have to help them here? They can be helped in their own country. Find out how Syrian Christians are NOT being helped. What about the Coptic Christians in Egypt? The yhzidi? Save your judgement.

Being a Christian does not mean being a robot, or having to take abuse, which is what you are doing. It's spiritual abuse to tell someone they aren't Christian if they don't do what you feel is right.
 Quoting: JypsieWind


Get behind me, Satan.
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Come up with something better than that. I did not refuse to help anyone, but asked the question why they must be helped here?
 Quoting: JypsieWind


You show your true colors with every post you make.

False Christian, doing the devil's work.

Enjoy your eternity in the lake of fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1586715


You need to stop judging others. That is Christ's job NOT yours. He is the only one who can judge us. You need to take a step back and look at your own actions.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

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BORN AGAINS CAN BE PRETTY STUPID ,AND GULLIBLE ,THEY NEED TO BE NICE ,OR THEY GO TO HELL ,TRUST NO ONE
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If you wish to be free to go to a megachurch or any church for that matter these invadigrants must be stopped. The Caliphate existed for 1,200 years and only ended when England broke up the Ottoman empire.
Europe thought by carving up the ME in to secular states they could contain Islam. It worked temporarily until we made them rich with oil money.
To Islam this is war, quietly moving in then waiting for right time to rise up and take over. Just look at history if you don't believe me.
Everywhere Muslims are the majority it becomes an Islamic state - the very antithesis of freedom.

Stand up in church and remind the congregation that the Saudi woman was vetted 3 times even though she posted radical Islamic shit on the web thy let her in. San Bernardino was Obama and DHS fault.
 Quoting: FlashBuzzkill


THIS...

Just like they are beheading Christians in their own country, that will be starting here soon. They have threatened Swedes. It's just a matter of time before it makes it to a town near you (and me). It's sickening. We need to stand up and be heard.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Jesus would be Sickened At the Religion That has formed in his Name .
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Not to mention the scumbag OP who claims to be Christian.
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OP's not being a scumbag for not wanting to help Isis and their families. Most of the so called refugees are fake Syrians who are really Isis members and their families fleeing Russian bombings and assad's army. Notice this flood didn't start till Russia starting bombing the heck out of Isis. Isis are the ones that have murdered millions of Christians and plan on doing the same thing once they get here. There are no Syrian Christian refugees being allowed in despite the fact they are the ones being persecuted and murdered the most by Isis. Many of the refugees are fake Syrians using murdered Syrian's passports to come to the west and we have no way of knowing which ones are legit and which ones are not. Isis even had passport making machine so they can travel under false names. This is a nightmare in the making.
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Thank you my friend. Very well said <3

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"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Jesus would be Sickened At the Religion That has formed in his Name .
 Quoting: Foy 63848797


Not to mention the scumbag OP who claims to be Christian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70197472


OP's not being a scumbag for not wanting to help Isis and their families. Most of the so called refugees are fake Syrians who are really Isis members and their families fleeing Russian bombings and assad's army. Notice this flood didn't start till Russia starting bombing the heck out of Isis. Isis are the ones that have murdered millions of Christians and plan on doing the same thing once they get here. There are no Syrian Christian refugees being allowed in despite the fact they are the ones being persecuted and murdered the most by Isis. Many of the refugees are fake Syrians using murdered Syrian's passports to come to the west and we have no way of knowing which ones are legit and which ones are not. Isis even had passport making machine so they can travel under false names. This is a nightmare in the making.
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THIS
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hf
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Good job being a racist, prejudiced christian. Oh wait, thats all of the uneducated Christians. Keep the fear mongering up:)
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Keep up the good work of being a shill and jerk. You do it well.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL

Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches.
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I absolutely am not giving any more!
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
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Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred.
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You are one of the blind.You have no clue.You have been spoon fed the word and have been lied to.your downfall.
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Here in Europe the churches are all doing "refugee" propaganda. Pathetic im sickened by it. Clearly "orders from above" and i dont mean the Creator.
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It is absolutely sickening. I am so sorry you are closer than I to all this. Stay safe my friend.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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If the leaders of the church want to help, they should get on the next bus and go ever there.

Hopefully by the time the bus is a few hundred feet under water, they will come to their senses.
 Quoting: Booger Cancer


The leaders of the church are likely left of center theology grads with eyes open wide for federal money. And like too many "Christians," have a profound understanding how to warp the bible to fit any agenda they wish to pursue.

The problem is similar to the Republican party RINO voting with Democrats against their constituents. Rebellion is in the air and people are totally fed up with people in power giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Fuck em. They can smugly call me a racist and bigot and quote bible verses. I can call them a traitors and assholes who think they will hide behind political correct thought when jihadists start the American jihad.

I could expound more. But I won't.
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Just to play devil's advocate...what better people to take in the refugees but Christians. At least you can keep an eye on the enemy.

To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Romans 12:20

And this:
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe. Luke 11:21
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Why should be taking in these "refugees"? I put it in quotes because really they're just migrants "in search of a better life", "fleeing poverty" bla bla bla. No invasion this organized, able to wait so long and travel so far, deserves to be called refugees.
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The "Evil One"... the "Evil 1"...

Photo Montage "Evil - One"

>>>> [link to uploads.im] <<<<

Proverbs 17:13 (NIV)

Evil will never leave the house of one who pays back evil with good.

Thess 3:3
But the Lord is faithful, and he will strengthen you and protect you from the "evil one".

Mathew 13 : 38
but the tares are the children of the "wicked one".

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one

1 John 2:14
God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

1 John 2:13
overcome the wicked one

John 6:70 (AMP)
Jesus answered them, Did I not choose you, the Twelve? And [yet] one of you is a devil (of the

evil one and a false accuser).

Matthew 6:13 (NIV)
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one

??????????????????????????????

The finger pointing by the Mudzlham is a "Gang-Sign" it is a direct threat, and offensive.

It is identifying themselves with the "Evil One", Satan, the Devil.

If God has a Number, it is certainly NOT a 1...

The number that could possibly be attributed to God is Zipher, Zepher, Zoro, or Zero.

Zero is the "Origin" of all numbers on a Number Line.

Mudzlhams and their apologists can blather all day about how it means this, or how it means that, but ...

You test the spirit by the ACTIONS of the individual not the blather.

The truth is that it is a "Gang Sign" used by thugs that slaughter Christians, and other religious people, hack-off their heads, then flash their "Gang-Signs"?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All Christians, and most other faiths, believe in ONE Creator...

The Mudzlhams do not have exclusive rights to that belief...


However they DO believe they have the right to exterminate, slaughter, behead, destroy, anyone that doesn't believe THEIR version of faith?
?

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[link to serpent-seed.com]
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The beautiful thing about megachurches are that they are businesses operating against the law as non profits and they will fail even faster than the economy does. Every mega church "pastor" should have pictures of his car and house right on the door to get into the megafacility...might make the parishioners a little skiddish on those donations.
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This church may be one of the few where the pastor is humble. I think he is blind right now and doesn't really know the truth which is unfortunate. He drives a mini van. Lives in a standard house, nothing spectacular and his salary is less than I make as a nurse. Today was a total shock.
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So where does all the money go? A megachurch must get huge amounts of donations every week.

Have you seen the detailed accounting or have a trusted committee that does?
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You should have stood up and stated what is really happening with this so called refugee problem. No doubt others in your congregation share your opinions. If no one speaks out nothing will be done to stop it. The next time you go there you better say something.
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There is a time and place. I will say something to my groups i'm active in and also make time with leadership.
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German brave Woman Rebukes Islam's Lie in Germany Deutschland

Watch! She stood up in church during an Islamic interfaith service and proclaimed Jesus as Lord. Very brave.

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Here in Europe the churches are all doing "refugee" propaganda. Pathetic im sickened by it. Clearly "orders from above" and i dont mean the Creator.
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It is absolutely sickening. I am so sorry you are closer than I to all this. Stay safe my friend.
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I'd like to ask your pastor if he will be personally responsible for the deaths of any Americans at the hands of Islamics he helps settle in America.

I'd love to see how that fucking room temperature IQ theology grad answers that question. As you can guess I'm not a big fan of theology grads. Smart and articulate ones are few and far between. Most are by nature, in the box thinkers and easily programmed to think only by the rules.
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

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Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred.
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you don't even believe in god faggat.
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
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You are a closed minded, hypocritical, cunt. I think you should leave the church, they don't need or want you.
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Yup. You are right. It's sad when you really think about it.
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Plenty of needy here, I went to check out Santa cops and it was already filled up, No other help availiable. Went to pick up free turkey and mustve missed out on that too, Oh well,

Lady said that many were turned away, The help availiable for Christmas was really low, demand was too high. Many families were turned down.
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THIS^^^ This is what we should be helping with. We have a HUGE problem in our country. Many need food and money to just survive. The second donation cause was homeless/needy/foodbanks in our community. This I fully support. We have our own problems we need to fix before we look outside the country trying to fix everyone else's problem. Thats what gets us into trouble!

I don't have much my friend but if you pm me your addy I will send you something to help with Christmas. God bless you my friend! You are in my prayers.
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"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
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And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL

Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches.
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I absolutely am not giving any more!
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If you know how to do it download this video and make DVDs or mp4's and pass them out, and tell people to copy and pass them out. One of the best history lessons out there by a Dr. Bill Warner PHD on the centuries old war of Islam against the West.

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If we just helped our own first, instead of giving money to other countries, every family in America could be modest middle class.
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THIS^^^ this is where our first focus should be at ALL times.
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
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You are a closed minded, hypocritical, cunt. I think you should leave the church, they don't need or want you.
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Eat shit, you dumb grocery clerk. Moron.
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
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That's right!!!! The people of Nineveh were so blind they couldn't tell their right hand from their left!!!!
JESUS IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION!!!

I will say it again... Jesus is NOT the author of confusion. And for those who are confused, CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME!!!!!!

Take care of OUR AMERICAN HOMELESS FIRST!!
FEED OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN FIRST!!!
FEED OUR AMERICAN WIDOWS, FIRST!!!
GET OUR AMERICAN WIDOWS AND VETS OFF THE STREETS , FIRST!!!!
CLOTHE AND EDUCATE OUR AMERICAN ORPHANS , FIRST!!!!!!!

There should be NO confusion about right and WRONG!!! Black and white, hot and cold! !!
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clappa
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"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Don't most churches help the homeless?
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I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

boom33
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That's right!!!! The people of Nineveh were so blind they couldn't tell their right hand from their left!!!!
JESUS IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION!!!

I will say it again... Jesus is NOT the author of confusion. And for those who are confused, CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME!!!!!!

Take care of OUR AMERICAN HOMELESS FIRST!!
FEED OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN FIRST!!!
FEED OUR AMERICAN WIDOWS, FIRST!!!
GET OUT AMERICAN WIDOWS AND VETS OFF THE STREETS , FIRST!!!!
CLOTHE AND EDUCATE OUR AMERICAN ORPHANS , FIRST!!!!!!!

There should be NO confusion about right and WRONG!!! Black and white, hot and cold! !!
 Quoting: Just Trina


Amen to this, We are spread way too thin.
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I don't believe these people need to be anyway, BUT... We can't even take care OF OUR OWN! !!! IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL to see these assholes try to pile these fookers into OUR COUNTRY WHILE OUR VETERANS ARE DYING DAILY WAITING FOR MEDICAL CARE!!!!!
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!....
YA, I'M PISSED .. AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL TOO!
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Everyone needs to get pissed and start conversations to get change going. People are still TOO passive. I should have stood up and said something. I will be speaking with leadership and taking it up with the financial groups because it isn't right. The focus needs to change.
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"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
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"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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That's right!!!! The people of Nineveh were so blind they couldn't tell their right hand from their left!!!!
JESUS IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION!!!

I will say it again... Jesus is NOT the author of confusion. And for those who are confused, CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME!!!!!!

Take care of OUR AMERICAN HOMELESS FIRST!!
FEED OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN FIRST!!!
FEED OUR AMERICAN WIDOWS, FIRST!!!
GET OUT AMERICAN WIDOWS AND VETS OFF THE STREETS , FIRST!!!!
CLOTHE AND EDUCATE OUR AMERICAN ORPHANS , FIRST!!!!!!!

There should be NO confusion about right and WRONG!!! Black and white, hot and cold! !!
 Quoting: Just Trina


Amen to this, We are spread way too thin.
 Quoting: MICHAELFRANKLINTREVOR


I don't believe these people need to be anyway, BUT... We can't even take care OF OUR OWN! !!! IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL to see these assholes try to pile these fookers into OUR COUNTRY WHILE OUR VETERANS ARE DYING DAILY WAITING FOR MEDICAL CARE!!!!!
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!....
YA, I'M PISSED .. AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL TOO!
 Quoting: Just Trina


Everyone needs to get pissed and start conversations to get change going. People are still TOO passive. I should have stood up and said something. I will be speaking with leadership and taking it up with the financial groups because it isn't right. The focus needs to change.
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I suggest a legal fund against law suites. If a terrorist act can be traced back to a refugee the church help settle . . . who knows what angry people will do?





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