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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*. Quoting: Sloane Every refugee is not your *enemy*. Yet we know the enemy is hidden among them so by your logic we should take them all in even if that means leting in our enemies to kill us. So if there was bowl of M&Ms and in amongst them was poison that would kill you but you have know way of knowing which M&Ms are the poison would you still eat the M&Ms or pass on it? Its not exactly like you have to explain this analogy to cultural Marxists. They can sniff out a Christian conservative MM in a candy bowl, just by someone saying a phrase like, "hard work." |
Just Trina User ID: 68786261 United States 12/20/2015 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*. Quoting: Sloane Every refugee is not your *enemy*. Yet we know the enemy is hidden among them so by your logic we should take them all in even if that means leting in our enemies to kill us. So if there was bowl of M&Ms and in amongst them was poison that would kill you but you have know way of knowing which M&Ms are the poison would you still eat the M&Ms or pass on it? Its not exactly like you have to explain this analogy to cultural Marxists. They can sniff out a Christian conservative MM in a candy bowl, just by someone saying a phrase like, "hard work." If you ask a " Muslim" if they believe in the Quran and the Hadith and they say yes, they ARE INDEED our enemy ...the Quran and the Hadith tell them to FIND THE INFIDEL WHEREVER THEY MAY HIDE, AND KILL THEM! !!! AND THEY BELIEVE. ...HATRED " IS" instilled in them IF they tell you they believe in these books because the same books also tell them they are to LIE TO THEIR ENEMY AT ANY COST ...AT ANY COST!!! Don't be deceived people , they SURE ARENT...THEY KNOW EXACTLY what their belief system is, do YOU?!!! Last Edited by Trap’d in a Phone on 12/20/2015 08:33 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50796937 United States 12/20/2015 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71068076 First mistake, going to a Church. Second mistake, believing there is a God. Hey dude don't align yourself with me. I have a relationship with my Lord Jesus and attend a small bible believing church. I was just trying to explain to the OP to reconsider and redirect his or her life. I guess by your post you are filled with EGO and I will pray for you. Dude, I guess you are rally proud of your humility gheeesh! I will pray for you too, that your reading comprehension improves. I assure my comprehension is just fine just can't stand self-righteousness |
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Just Trina User ID: 68786261 United States 12/20/2015 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL Quoting: Factual Error Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches. Vote with your wallet and either leave the church or stop donating. Hopefully others were disgusted to hear about it too. Yep, but I'd go right to the source and let them know why I was leaving! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55611245 United States 12/20/2015 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good job being a racist, prejudiced christian. Oh wait, thats all of the uneducated Christians. Keep the fear mongering up:) Quoting: StubbyClaps Would you enjoy waking up every morning at 6am to the Muslim call to prayer being broadcast over a loudspeaker from your local neighborhood mosque? That is what "tolerance" will get you. It's already happening in America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31575730 United States 12/20/2015 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you shouldhave sweetly stood up and gave your side of the story, in a question-like manner. You shoulhave told them all you have heard here and all that you know for sure to be true. But that is ok: next time. Right?- but youwill be prepared for it this time. Right? GO BACK TO YOUR CHURCH, THOSE PEOPLE NEED YOU ! ! ! How dare you run out on them now, and at a time like this. SHAME ! ! ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70717665 United States 12/20/2015 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL Quoting: Factual Error Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches. Vote with your wallet and either leave the church or stop donating. Hopefully others were disgusted to hear about it too. Yep, but I'd go right to the source and let them know why I was leaving! That probably won't do much good. They have their agenda, and they know some won't like it, so they'll sadly bid you farewell, secretly happy that a subversive is gone. In a huge organization (MEGA church) what you don't want is subversives. It gets in the way of management effectiveness. It would be more useful, therefore, to be subversive among the members. Talk to them about it during coffee after the service or whenever you can meet them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70447432 Hey dude don't align yourself with me. I have a relationship with my Lord Jesus and attend a small bible believing church. I was just trying to explain to the OP to reconsider and redirect his or her life. I guess by your post you are filled with EGO and I will pray for you. Dude, I guess you are rally proud of your humility gheeesh! I will pray for you too, that your reading comprehension improves. I assure my comprehension is just fine just can't stand self-righteousness Yeah, well I kind of see your point. Its just push come to shove, I'd rather a self-righteous Christian, than a self-righteous jihadist as my neighbor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70717665 United States 12/20/2015 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good job being a racist, prejudiced christian. Oh wait, thats all of the uneducated Christians. Keep the fear mongering up:) Quoting: StubbyClaps Would you enjoy waking up every morning at 6am to the Muslim call to prayer being broadcast over a loudspeaker from your local neighborhood mosque? That is what "tolerance" will get you. It's already happening in America. And if YOU went to that mosque, you would be pushed out rudely. Totally unlike your church which welcomes all comers. Muslims can maintain a good veneer of politeness. But get close to their mosque and that goes away. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31575730 United States 12/20/2015 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19948123 Shut your face why don't you go live in some Muzz country if you think they're so great? How very Christian of you. God does not want us to be foolish. He wants us to be discerning and He knows there are terrorists mixed in with refugees and he does not want us to risk our families by bringing them here. You people who tell Christians to do such idiotic things are of the devil and nobody should listen to you. You are not Christians. So shut the fuck up. THANK YOU !!!! Perhaps these people should take a few hundred of these poor men , refugees to their homes WITH THEIR LITTLE SONS AND DAUGHTERS IN THE NEXT ROOMS ...let's see how many of them actually put up or shut up!!! They have NO DISCERNMENT WHATSOEVER, but say we are not christians and Jesus wouldn't want it...OBVIOUSLY they've NEVER cracked open a Bible, or they would KNOW what Jesus really says ABOUT SUCH HEATHENISTIC PEOPLE!!!!! HE DIDN'T JUST SAY IT ONCE OR TWICE BUT MANY TIMES , HE SAID ...FROM SUCH TURN AWAY!!!! WHAT FELLOWSHIP HATH LIGHT WITH DARKNESS? JESUS ASKED. Christians ARE NOT to have fellowship in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, with darkness, or those WHO DENY JESUS CHRIST!! FROM SUCH, TURN AWAY!!! Real christians KNOW what God's word says, they KNOW where the wickedness lies, and it lies with ALL THOSE WHO INSIST ON TRYING TO MAKE SYRIANS , OR DEVOUT MUSLIMS OF ANY KIND OUR FRIENDS!!!!! PERIOD. PERIOD. END OF THE DISCUSSION , Because your argument is mute! Muslims like Jesus. Jesus is one of their prophets. the Jews hate Jesus and say extremely ugly things about him and his mother, and when was the last time you turned away from a Jew? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL Quoting: Factual Error Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches. Vote with your wallet and either leave the church or stop donating. Hopefully others were disgusted to hear about it too. Yep, but I'd go right to the source and let them know why I was leaving! That probably won't do much good. They have their agenda, and they know some won't like it, so they'll sadly bid you farewell, secretly happy that a subversive is gone. In a huge organization (MEGA church) what you don't want is subversives. It gets in the way of management effectiveness. It would be more useful, therefore, to be subversive among the members. Talk to them about it during coffee after the service or whenever you can meet them. When the European jihad start around June 2016, these mega churches and charities helping jihad will be on everyone's shit list. The slaughter will be in the millions. The only benefit is it will wake up the American people what is in store for America. Hopefully before it is too late. Episode 425 – In this edition we welcome novelist and essayist Matthew Bracken on board on the heels of the presentation of his article “Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive,” earlier this week. Very, very interesting and informative interview. Bracken is former navy seal and novelist. Makes a good argument 2016 is the year. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good job being a racist, prejudiced christian. Oh wait, thats all of the uneducated Christians. Keep the fear mongering up:) Quoting: StubbyClaps Really? I have two degrees in philosophy. Philosophy. Not theology. Any time you wish to test wits and parlay, just let me know, you ignorant, bigoted piece of shit. |
Your Huckleberry User ID: 71069111 United States 12/20/2015 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's not being a scumbag for not wanting to help Isis and their families. Most of the so called refugees are fake Syrians who are really Isis members and their families fleeing Russian bombings and assad's army. Notice this flood didn't start till Russia starting bombing the heck out of Isis. Isis are the ones that have murdered millions of Christians and plan on doing the same thing once they get here. There are no Syrian Christian refugees being allowed in despite the fact they are the ones being persecuted and murdered the most by Isis. Many of the refugees are fake Syrians using murdered Syrian's passports to come to the west and we have no way of knowing which ones are legit and which ones are not. Isis even had passport making machine so they can travel under false names. This is a nightmare in the making. THIS Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's not being a scumbag for not wanting to help Isis and their families. Most of the so called refugees are fake Syrians who are really Isis members and their families fleeing Russian bombings and assad's army. Notice this flood didn't start till Russia starting bombing the heck out of Isis. Isis are the ones that have murdered millions of Christians and plan on doing the same thing once they get here. There are no Syrian Christian refugees being allowed in despite the fact they are the ones being persecuted and murdered the most by Isis. Many of the refugees are fake Syrians using murdered Syrian's passports to come to the west and we have no way of knowing which ones are legit and which ones are not. Isis even had passport making machine so they can travel under false names. This is a nightmare in the making. THIS :theyreright: Look at the Caravan to Midnight video I posted above. The nightmare for Europe is 6 months away. America a little longer. Don't give up guns or we will be fighting Jihadists with broom sticks. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4156978 United States 12/20/2015 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO Not very Christ-like of you, OP. Christ said those who clung to their lives would lose them. Your worry is about 'self'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to go back to the M&M thread. If there is a bowl on the table with thousands of M&Ms and 8 of them will instantly kill you, will you eat any? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70561639 Stops them every time. The reason is they don't mind if they kill you. However they do mind if they kill them. The MM analogy just reminds that they too can be killed by jihadists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70447432 United States 12/20/2015 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The most important one not to fear is God. Don't fear God, love God and be as close as possible to God. And if God tells you that you have to support the government letting these people in to use our welfare and other systems, then I suppose you ought to listen to that. God doesn't tell me anything of the sort and encourages me to act in a way of total self-respect. You can't love others properly until you really really love yourself. Proverbs9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO Not very Christ-like of you, OP. Christ said those who clung to their lives would lose them. Your worry is about 'self'. Why no let other people worry about their Christ-likeness and let Jesus be the judge? Or perhaps you missed that drinking at Starbucks and voting for Obama. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The most important one not to fear is God. Don't fear God, love God and be as close as possible to God. And if God tells you that you have to support the government letting these people in to use our welfare and other systems, then I suppose you ought to listen to that. God doesn't tell me anything of the sort and encourages me to act in a way of total self-respect. You can't love others properly until you really really love yourself. Proverbs9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Fear as in great respect. Not fear which cancels out love. |
professor User ID: 69595128 United States 12/20/2015 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred. Christ never had to deal with nut job muslims who strap bombs on their back. Is that clear enough for you, you stupid ass bogan. Jesus also did not have to deal with a bunch of Global pirates that are using a fake ass religion created in Yeshuas good name for their own global conquests and military adventurism. Funny how we bless our bombs before we go and maim thousands of women and kids that never hurt us, is that what Jesus would want ? |
Michele B User ID: 70434034 United States 12/20/2015 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure if they're compassionate or in it for the money. I understand these churches are given a lot of federal funds when accepting refugees. Quoting: nutmeg That's exactly the point, Nutmeg. Follow the money. So many so-called "christian organizations" are getting money from the government - it can't be that this is DELIBERATE, can it? - to MAKE THEM TAKE THESE REFUJIHADIS. They don't actually ASK their congregations if they WANT to do this....they just come up with the idea, and then play on EMOTIONS to get them to agree "christians are supposed to help those in need...." blah, blah, blah, "Jesus was a refugee..." blah, blah, blah. A well-coordinated INVASION. In our area, the "local" diocese (OOPS! I think I just gave something away! ;-P) has agreed to take refugees....the problem is - THE DIOCESE WHO HAS AGREED TO TAKE THEM IS 45 MILES AWAY!!!! BUT THEY WILL BE HOUSED IN *OUR TOWN* - NOT THEIRS!!!!! Something wrong with THAT picture....it's the typical liberal, "Someone should do this, as long as it's - not in my backyard" thinking. This diocese "manages" our little congregation (not mine personally, but I mean in our town) from this town 45 miles away. So they continually make decisions about who can live here, WHERE TO BUILD A MIGRANT HOUSING COMPLEX, etc. It's not "in their backyard," but it literally IS in mine! It hasn't been a problem - yet - since it IS well-managed....but now they are building MORE homes on the complex, and I fear they are for SYRIAN "refugees," since the scuttlebutt around town is that many are being "settled" here. Of course, the money goes to the diocese in the town 45 miles away - NOT our little local church/town....so THEY DON'T REALLY GIVE A SHIT WHAT KIND OF SHITSTORM THEY CREATE HERE.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60091995 United States 12/20/2015 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way to support Syrian refugees is to make conditions in their country better. Here's how... The U.S. should arm and support Syrian President Assad's army to clean out "ISIS"/al-Nusra/al Qaeda from Syria. Who better to be boots on the ground than the actual people of Syria -- the Syrian Army. In concert with Russian aerial bombardment of these same terrorists' positions, terrorists in Syria would be cleaned out in 3 to 6 months. The real question is: Why aren't we doing that? The obvious answer is that the prevailing policy in the U.S. is (although it seems they're opening to compromise) that Assad has to go. But why? Why would the U.S. FIRST AND FOREMOST seek the ouster of Syria's legitimate President Bashar al-Assad? I thought fighting terrorism (in the form of "ISIS"/al-Nusra/al Qaeda) was our biggest concern? Indeed, it's not Assad who seeks war with the U.S. It's these radical Sunni terror groups who have taken over parts of Syria and seek Assad's ouster. What the U.S. claims it wants, and what U.S. actions demonstrate are completely opposite. What is the old saying?... "Watch what I do; not what I say." And, "Actions speak louder than words". The U.S. neoconservative agenda -- the prevailing foreign policy since 2001 -- is beginning to reveal itself to the mainstream in America now. The world knew it for what it was pretty quickly. But now the very people whose tax dollars pay for these ideological and corporate money-making foreign excursions using the public's money and blood, are being exposed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71031675 United States 12/20/2015 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71060671 United States 12/20/2015 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning. Quoting: TrixieMama As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning. They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that. During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities. Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity". I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!! I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works. I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work. As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy. I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred. Christ never had to deal with nut job muslims who strap bombs on their back. Is that clear enough for you, you stupid ass bogan. Jesus also did not have to deal with a bunch of Global pirates that are using a fake ass religion created in Yeshuas good name for their own global conquests and military adventurism. Funny how we bless our bombs before we go and maim thousands of women and kids that never hurt us, is that what Jesus would want ? The CFR hasn't been Christian for 100 years. The fact is American Christians don't want war and by nature are isolationists. And have to be constantly tricked in to going to war. Your neo-con, Schofield, Israel-first, American Protestants do have a great tendency to be war mongers but then again they are easily manipulated from the top. I suspect if we last that long, in a decade, Schofield Christians will more rainbowized, and to the left of Trotsky than Obama or Hillary. Gay marriage and gay ministers will be as common as supporting Israel at the expense of America. |