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It's Starting: Virginia to end concealed carry reciprocity with other states

 
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It's Starting: Virginia to end concealed carry reciprocity with other states
Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) plans to announce Tuesday that Virginia will no longer recognize concealed carry handgun permits from 25 states that have reciprocity agreements with the commonwealth.

The move also means Virginians with a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental-health treatment cannot obtain a permit in a state with comparatively lax laws and carry a handgun legally at home.

Herring said severing the out-of-state agreements can prevent people who may be dangerous or irresponsible from carrying a concealed weapon.

“To me, this is a commonsense step that can help make Virginians and our law enforcement officers safer by ensuring that Virginia’s laws on who can and cannot carry a concealed handgun are applied evenly, consistently, and fairly,” he said in a statement provided to The Washington Post.


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if i were prez, each state would have to reciprocate
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Where do they stand on marriage reciprocity?
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wearing iron is not subject to legal jurisdiction unless ye are a subject of the CROWN CORPORATION, which is what ye are if ye are stupid enough to be one [a subject]

the words; slave, subject, citizen, person, voter and any title , be it a simple MR. or a LORD are all synonymous

the only way out is to be a man

legal land cannot violate a man

any man can carry a piece or any other weapon imaginable without being violated - 'voters', however [see above] are subject to the CORPORATION USA rules, which means you can't do shit without your owners permission

deal with it

learn who ye are - or burn ...

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All this does is makes criminals out of honest law abiding citizens and the funny part is we are ok with it.If they think for one second Americans are going to give up their protection while the government is doing everything in their power to take it away they have another thing coming.
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All this does is makes criminals out of honest law abiding citizens and the funny part is we are ok with it.If they think for one second Americans are going to give up their protection while the government is doing everything in their power to take it away they have another thing coming.
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wearing iron is not subject to legal jurisdiction unless ye are a subject of the CROWN CORPORATION, which is what ye are if ye are stupid enough to be one [a subject]

the words; slave, subject, citizen, person, voter and any title , be it a simple MR. or a LORD are all synonymous

the only way out is to be a man

legal land cannot violate a man

any man can carry a piece or any other weapon imaginable without being violated - 'voters', however [see above] are subject to the CORPORATION USA rules, which means you can't do shit without your owners permission

deal with it

learn who ye are - or burn ...

burnit
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This should be a ballot issue for the residents of Virginia.

These leftist are straight on marxist in broad daylight.

I have to agree with an above poster in regards to be a man.
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but...
Open carry is 100% legal

Concealed carry in your car is legal.

To mention they just raised the cost to $100 for out-of-state ccw permit.

To qualify for a non-resident conceal carry permit, just show them your out-of-state Hunter safety course certificate,or your out-of-state hunting permit.
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but...
Open carry is 100% legal

Concealed carry in your car is legal.

To mention they just raised the cost to $100 for out-of-state ccw permit.

To qualify for a non-resident conceal carry permit, just show them your out-of-state Hunter safety course certificate,or your out-of-state hunting permit.
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How about you tell them to fuck off and show them the 2nd Amendment. They might falsely arrest, kidnap you. Then press charges to all involved.
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Sounds like a wonderful state to move out of.....and I live in the hub of corruption here in CT....so thinking of vacating here.....we own just over 4 sections (2600 acres)of land in Powder River WY....homesteaded in the 1880's.....our bug out areacatfilenails
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This should be a ballot issue for the residents of Virginia.

These leftist are straight on marxist in broad daylight.

I have to agree with an above poster in regards to be a man.
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I dont know if VA is a referendum state. IF so they need to get a number of signatures to get it on the ballot.
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The Virginia Attorney General, Mark Herring, a member of the Party of Gun Control, has decided to expand the attack on concealed handgun permit holders that was started by Governor McAuliffe. What Herring and McAuliffe can’t get done through the General Assembly, they will get by abusing their elected positions.

Herring had an “audit” performed on the states whose permits are honored in Virginia and has decided (surprise, surprise) that two-dozen of those states don’t meet the “standards" required.

The two-dozen states will have their recognition dropped on February 1, 2016.

Was there a problem with out-of-state CHP holders carrying in Virginia that triggered the audit?

NO, of course not. CHP holders are the most law-abiding of America’s citizens.

Just like the McAuliffe’s state-agency gun ban, this isn’t about public safety at all. It is about vindictively attacking CHP holders, paying back Bloomberg for campaign donations, and coddling criminals and terrorists.

(Lest any of you forget how important it is to get to the polls, Mark Herring beat Mark Obenshain by only **165** votes with the help of Michael Bloomberg back in 2013. Because of those 165 votes, here we are.)

VIRGINIA CHP HOLDERS WILL BE ENDANGERED WHEN TRAVELING OUT OF STATE

This gutless attack on our rights also affects some of OUR NEIGHBORS: North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky and will undoubtedly cost Virginia CHP holders the ability to carry in many states where we have been carrying for years!

It will be a while before we know the full extent of this treachery, but when we know, it will be disseminated on VA-ALERT.

VCDL WILL BE FIGHTING BACK!

A bill is going to be introduced in January that will change the law to honor the permits from ALL other states. Period. Last year the same bill cleared the House and was killed in the Senate Finance committee when the State Police lied, saying they would lose money if the bill passed.

Also, we will be going over the results of Herrings “audit" with a fine tooth comb. From the news article, below, I can see what appears to be some major flaws in the audit. This part will be handled in the courts if the full-recognition bill fails.

LOBBY DAY IS MONDAY, JANUARY 18TH AT 8:30 AM AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BUILDING, LOCATED AT 9TH AND BROAD STREETS IN RICHMOND.

We need to send a strong message to our state government that we are FED UP with our rights being STOLEN from us. We can do that by having a MASSIVE attendance on Lobby Day! Details on the buses will be coming out very soon. Carry by CHP holders is allowed in the General Assembly Building and at the Capitol Building.

If you wish to contribute to VCDL for the upcoming fight over McAuliffe’s and Herring’s attacks, you can do so as follows:

To contribute via credit card: [link to mobipledge.mobi (secure)]

To contribute via US Mail (make check payable to "VCDL") and mail to:

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Considering the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage this should be easily contestable in court.
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Wont stop me stupid motherfuckers.

So we have a gunfight I don't give a shit.

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Sounds like a wonderful state to move out of.....and I live in the hub of corruption here in CT....so thinking of vacating here.....we own just over 4 sections (2600 acres)of land in Powder River WY....homesteaded in the 1880's.....our bug out areacatfilenails
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if i were prez, each state would have to reciprocate
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If I were prez, constitutional carry would once again be the law of the land
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if i were prez, each state would have to reciprocate
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If you were prez, you might know you have no say in that.
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Re: It's Starting: Virginia to end concealed carry reciprocity with other states
Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) plans to announce Tuesday that Virginia will no longer recognize concealed carry handgun permits from 25 states that have reciprocity agreements with the commonwealth.

The move also means Virginians with a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental-health treatment cannot obtain a permit in a state with comparatively lax laws and carry a handgun legally at home.

Herring said severing the out-of-state agreements can prevent people who may be dangerous or irresponsible from carrying a concealed weapon.

“To me, this is a commonsense step that can help make Virginians and our law enforcement officers safer by ensuring that Virginia’s laws on who can and cannot carry a concealed handgun are applied evenly, consistently, and fairly,” he said in a statement provided to The Washington Post.


[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


:gads:
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I guess that Mr. Herring (good name by the way) is simply too STUPID to realize that CCW holders are THE most law-abiding citizens in the entire country. They are 6 times more law abiding than the average citizen, statistically, and even off duty police officers come in 2nd behind them.

This guy is the chief law enforcement official in the state, yet he's too stupid (and apparently too ignorant) to know this.
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I will never again visit Virginia for any reason.

Wave bye to tourism dollars, you turncoat blue coat Yankees SOBs.
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How is it that states are able to just selectively cherry pick which constitutional amendments to abide by in the bill of rites. What if states started banning the first amnendment the way they commonly do with the second. Would there be outrage then?
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I will never again visit Virginia for any reason.

Wave bye to tourism dollars, you turncoat blue coat Yankees SOBs.
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You aint missing anything, but not all of us in VA have forgotten our Southern Heritage.
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if Trump were prez, each state would have to reciprocate
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Virginia used to be a great State. Glad I moved
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wearing iron is not subject to legal jurisdiction unless ye are a subject of the CROWN CORPORATION, which is what ye are if ye are stupid enough to be one [a subject]

the words; slave, subject, citizen, person, voter and any title , be it a simple MR. or a LORD are all synonymous

the only way out is to be a man

legal land cannot violate a man

any man can carry a piece or any other weapon imaginable without being violated - 'voters', however [see above] are subject to the CORPORATION USA rules, which means you can't do shit without your owners permission

deal with it

learn who ye are - or burn ...

burnit
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How many court cases have you won with that logic?

It you can't stay out of jail, it's not going to do you an ounce of good. You can wish for rebellion all you want, but until it happens you are subject to the laws of this country and its states.

If you're so confident in your logic, go ahead and do as you will and take your case to the supreme court. Otherwise, you're just flapping your lips.
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Notice how he said "to protect law enforcement"...That's really what they are worried about. They don't give a crap if anyone else gets killed, only the precious po-po. They don't want people to be able to fight back.
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if i were prez, each state would have to reciprocate
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If I were prez, constitutional carry would once again be the law of the land
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Would you re-establish the Naturalization Act of 1790?
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Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) plans to announce Tuesday that Virginia will no longer recognize concealed carry handgun permits from 25 states that have reciprocity agreements with the commonwealth.

The move also means Virginians with a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental-health treatment cannot obtain a permit in a state with comparatively lax laws and carry a handgun legally at home.

Herring said severing the out-of-state agreements can prevent people who may be dangerous or irresponsible from carrying a concealed weapon.

“To me, this is a commonsense step that can help make Virginians and our law enforcement officers safer by ensuring that Virginia’s laws on who can and cannot carry a concealed handgun are applied evenly, consistently, and fairly,” he said in a statement provided to The Washington Post.


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:gads:
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Not traveling to Virgina now.
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So they want you to scare all the liberal tards by open carrying?
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if i were prez, each state would have to reciprocate
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If I were prez, constitutional carry would once again be the law of the land
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Would you re-establish the Naturalization Act of 1790?
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Allow other cars , but only of high character, each has to be interviewed multiple times, and apply.





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