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Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

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Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

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From biblehub:

She is nourished in the wilderness. (See Notes on Revelation 12:6.) The length of her sojourn is here called a season, seasons, and half a season; it was called twelve hundred and sixty days in Revelation 12:6.

The period is in both cases the same in length, viz., three years and a half--i.e., the season (one year), the seasons (two years), and the half season (half a year).
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Here in Rev 13:5 It's not days or years, but months:

And there was given unto him {the antichrist} a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
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Once again we are given the time frame in days - and verse 17 it's repeated, as it's been many times - it's for the last days.

Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed....

17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
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And to continue in Dan 8 - this verse - revealing when the antichrist will stand in the holy temple to declare he is more exalted than God of the universe (2Thess2:4)

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
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The transgressors being the Israelis (gog magog war - Ezekiel 39) & the king who stands up the antichrist.
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Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

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Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

----

From biblehub:

She is nourished in the wilderness. (See Notes on Revelation 12:6.) The length of her sojourn is here called a season, seasons, and half a season; it was called twelve hundred and sixty days in Revelation 12:6.

The period is in both cases the same in length, viz., three years and a half--i.e., the season (one year), the seasons (two years), and the half season (half a year).
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Here in Rev 13:5 It's not days or years, but months:

And there was given unto him {the antichrist} a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Once again we are given the time frame in days - and verse 17 it's repeated, as it's been many times - it's for the last days.

Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed....

17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And to continue in Dan 8 - this verse - revealing when the antichrist will stand in the holy temple to declare he is more exalted than God of the universe (2Thess2:4)

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


2 Thess 2:4 Reinforces what we see here in Daniel 11:

Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god
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Here in Rev 13:5 It's not days or years, but months:

And there was given unto him {the antichrist} a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Once again we are given the time frame in days - and verse 17 it's repeated, as it's been many times - it's for the last days.

Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed....

17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And to continue in Dan 8 - this verse - revealing when the antichrist will stand in the holy temple to declare he is more exalted than God of the universe (2Thess2:4)

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


2 Thess 2:4 Reinforces what we see here in Daniel 11:

Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god
 Quoting: b4its2l8


To summarize why antiochus epiphanes could not be the antichrist spoken of in all the verses I've listed is this:

Why Antiochus IV Is Not the Little Horn of Daniel 8

Small excerpt:

The best way to understand the prophecy is to study it in context of other chapters in Daniel that parallel it, particularly Daniel 7. By comparing these two chapters, we can learn not only which school of prophetic thought best explains the vision of Daniel 8, but we can see why the identification of the little horn as Antiochus Epiphanes simply isn’t tenable...

b. To the east. Antiochus IV’s predecessor, not Antiochus IV himself, subjugated the east with his victorious campaigns of 210-206 B.C. that took him to the frontier of India. Most of the territories involved rebelled and became independent, however, after the Romans defeated him at Magnesia. Antiochus IV attempted to regain some of this territory. After some initial diplomatic and military successes, his forces stalled. He died during the course of these campaigns, apparently from natural causes, in the winter of 164/3 B.C. Antiochus IV did have some initial successes, he did not accomplish nearly as much in this area as his predecessor, and this project was left incomplete at Antiochus IV’s death. Thus his partial and incomplete military successes hardly match the prophetic prediction of the little horn “growing exceedingly great” toward the east....

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We know a lot about Elijah - but who is Enoch?

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According to the Book of Genesis, Enoch (/ˈiːnək/; Hebrew: חֲנוֹך‎; Ḥanōḵ) was a son of Cain, and father of Irad. After Cain arrived in the Land of Nod, to which he was evicted by the Lord as his punishment for murdering his brother Abel, his wife became pregnant and bore Cain's first child, whom he named Enoch.
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Enoch had a rare personal friendship with God:

This article sheds some light on that friendship:

Friendship With God - A Look at the Life of Enoch

Excerpt:

Near the beginning of biblical history, we find a man known for friendship with God. We do not know much about the life of Enoch, but we do know that “after he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked faithfully with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters” (Gen. 5:22). It seems that, at the age of 65, when Enoch’s son Methuselah was born, Enoch experienced a personal revival. From then on, in his life of 365 years, he walked faithfully with God...

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More from thew above article:

He was a family man, with a wife and children and responsibilities. Yet he learned to cultivate intimacy with God in the midst of daily life. As a result, in the space of three verses, the fact that Enoch walked faithfully is mentioned twice. This repetition is not by accident.
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We learn a little about Enoch in the book of Genesis - where there are 3 verses devoted to him

The first verse is Genesis 5:21

As noted above Enoch had a son at 65 - not that he died by the age of 65:

And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Returning to Genesis 5:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah

From Biblehub:

The Holy Spirit, instead of saying, Enoch lived, says, Enoch walked with God. This was his constant care and work; while others lived to themselves and the world, he lived to God. It was the joy of his life.
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Enoch had a rare personal friendship with God:

This article sheds some light on that friendship:

Friendship With God - A Look at the Life of Enoch

Excerpt:

Near the beginning of biblical history, we find a man known for friendship with God. We do not know much about the life of Enoch, but we do know that “after he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked faithfully with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters” (Gen. 5:22). It seems that, at the age of 65, when Enoch’s son Methuselah was born, Enoch experienced a personal revival. From then on, in his life of 365 years, he walked faithfully with God...

[link to www.margiefleurant.org (secure)]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from thew above article:

He was a family man, with a wife and children and responsibilities. Yet he learned to cultivate intimacy with God in the midst of daily life. As a result, in the space of three verses, the fact that Enoch walked faithfully is mentioned twice. This repetition is not by accident.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


We learn a little about Enoch in the book of Genesis - where there are 3 verses devoted to him

The first verse is Genesis 5:21

As noted above Enoch had a son at 65 - not that he died by the age of 65:

And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Returning to Genesis 5:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah

From Biblehub:

The Holy Spirit, instead of saying, Enoch lived, says, Enoch walked with God. This was his constant care and work; while others lived to themselves and the world, he lived to God. It was the joy of his life.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from Biblehub:

Godliness is walking with God: which shows reconciliation to God, for two cannot walk together except they be agreed, Am 3:3.

It includes all the parts of a godly, righteous, and sober life. To walk with God, is to set God always before us, to act as always under his eye.

It is constantly to care, in all things to please God, and in nothing to offend him.
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More from thew above article:

He was a family man, with a wife and children and responsibilities. Yet he learned to cultivate intimacy with God in the midst of daily life. As a result, in the space of three verses, the fact that Enoch walked faithfully is mentioned twice. This repetition is not by accident.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


We learn a little about Enoch in the book of Genesis - where there are 3 verses devoted to him

The first verse is Genesis 5:21

As noted above Enoch had a son at 65 - not that he died by the age of 65:

And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Returning to Genesis 5:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah

From Biblehub:

The Holy Spirit, instead of saying, Enoch lived, says, Enoch walked with God. This was his constant care and work; while others lived to themselves and the world, he lived to God. It was the joy of his life.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from Biblehub:

Godliness is walking with God: which shows reconciliation to God, for two cannot walk together except they be agreed, Am 3:3.

It includes all the parts of a godly, righteous, and sober life. To walk with God, is to set God always before us, to act as always under his eye.

It is constantly to care, in all things to please God, and in nothing to offend him.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Enoch did not live like the rest of mankind - which is a good thing, even today (Especially today).

John 15:If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
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We learn a little about Enoch in the book of Genesis - where there are 3 verses devoted to him

The first verse is Genesis 5:21

As noted above Enoch had a son at 65 - not that he died by the age of 65:

And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Returning to Genesis 5:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah

From Biblehub:

The Holy Spirit, instead of saying, Enoch lived, says, Enoch walked with God. This was his constant care and work; while others lived to themselves and the world, he lived to God. It was the joy of his life.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from Biblehub:

Godliness is walking with God: which shows reconciliation to God, for two cannot walk together except they be agreed, Am 3:3.

It includes all the parts of a godly, righteous, and sober life. To walk with God, is to set God always before us, to act as always under his eye.

It is constantly to care, in all things to please God, and in nothing to offend him.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Enoch did not live like the rest of mankind - which is a good thing, even today (Especially today).

John 15:If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him

Enoch was removed to a better world
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Returning to Genesis 5:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah

From Biblehub:

The Holy Spirit, instead of saying, Enoch lived, says, Enoch walked with God. This was his constant care and work; while others lived to themselves and the world, he lived to God. It was the joy of his life.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from Biblehub:

Godliness is walking with God: which shows reconciliation to God, for two cannot walk together except they be agreed, Am 3:3.

It includes all the parts of a godly, righteous, and sober life. To walk with God, is to set God always before us, to act as always under his eye.

It is constantly to care, in all things to please God, and in nothing to offend him.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Enoch did not live like the rest of mankind - which is a good thing, even today (Especially today).

John 15:If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him

Enoch was removed to a better world
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And of course - there is controversy swirling around Enoch - whether is did or didn't die.

This author says yes, he did die:

From WND:

If you look closely, though, what the Bible actually does say is that Enoch died.

Yes, it’s in your Bible. Enoch died.

“In Hebrews chapter 11, there is a list of famous heroes from the Old Testament,” says Kovacs. “There are great names mentioned including Abraham, Noah, Abel and Enoch. And guess what the Bible says about these outstanding characters who followed the true God of the universe. It says they all died.”

These all died in faith, not having received the promises (Hebrews 11:13, King James Version)

Feel free to open up any translation of your own Bible right now, and you’ll see that these Old Testament heroes all died.

All these faithful ones died without receiving what God had promised them … (New Living Translation)

All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised … (New International Version)
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whether is did = whether he did or didn't die
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More from Biblehub:

Godliness is walking with God: which shows reconciliation to God, for two cannot walk together except they be agreed, Am 3:3.

It includes all the parts of a godly, righteous, and sober life. To walk with God, is to set God always before us, to act as always under his eye.

It is constantly to care, in all things to please God, and in nothing to offend him.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Enoch did not live like the rest of mankind - which is a good thing, even today (Especially today).

John 15:If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him

Enoch was removed to a better world
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And of course - there is controversy swirling around Enoch - whether he did or didn't die.

This author says yes, he did die:

From WND:

If you look closely, though, what the Bible actually does say is that Enoch died.

Yes, it’s in your Bible. Enoch died.

“In Hebrews chapter 11, there is a list of famous heroes from the Old Testament,” says Kovacs. “There are great names mentioned including Abraham, Noah, Abel and Enoch. And guess what the Bible says about these outstanding characters who followed the true God of the universe. It says they all died.”

These all died in faith, not having received the promises (Hebrews 11:13, King James Version)

Feel free to open up any translation of your own Bible right now, and you’ll see that these Old Testament heroes all died.

All these faithful ones died without receiving what God had promised them … (New Living Translation)

All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised … (New International Version)
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In this article we get the opposite argument - he didn't die:

[link to answersingenesis.org (secure)]

Small Excerpt:

On the surface it would appear we have two contradicting statements only a few sentences apart. But there are a couple of ways of looking at this supposed conundrum.

First, there is a simple theological explanation. In Hebrews 11 there appears to be a division of main ideas presented in verses 1–5 and verses 6–13. Notice that verse 13 states, “"These all died in faith, not having received the promises."” What promises? When we look back on verses 7–11 we see that each person who is mentioned received and believed a promise, so verse 13 only refers to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Sarah—not Enoch or Abel.

Hebrews does not mention any promises concerning Enoch and Abel in verses 4–5. And the author specifically mentions Abel was dead and Enoch was not.

Second, there is a simple grammatical explanation. Enoch is the exception to the rule. The rule is that everyone listed did not escape death. And then Enoch is the exception since it was stated, “"He did not see death."”
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Enoch did not live like the rest of mankind - which is a good thing, even today (Especially today).

John 15:If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him

Enoch was removed to a better world
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And of course - there is controversy swirling around Enoch - whether he did or didn't die.

This author says yes, he did die:

From WND:

If you look closely, though, what the Bible actually does say is that Enoch died.

Yes, it’s in your Bible. Enoch died.

“In Hebrews chapter 11, there is a list of famous heroes from the Old Testament,” says Kovacs. “There are great names mentioned including Abraham, Noah, Abel and Enoch. And guess what the Bible says about these outstanding characters who followed the true God of the universe. It says they all died.”

These all died in faith, not having received the promises (Hebrews 11:13, King James Version)

Feel free to open up any translation of your own Bible right now, and you’ll see that these Old Testament heroes all died.

All these faithful ones died without receiving what God had promised them … (New Living Translation)

All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised … (New International Version)
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In this article we get the opposite argument - he didn't die:

[link to answersingenesis.org (secure)]

Small Excerpt:

On the surface it would appear we have two contradicting statements only a few sentences apart. But there are a couple of ways of looking at this supposed conundrum.

First, there is a simple theological explanation. In Hebrews 11 there appears to be a division of main ideas presented in verses 1–5 and verses 6–13. Notice that verse 13 states, “"These all died in faith, not having received the promises."” What promises? When we look back on verses 7–11 we see that each person who is mentioned received and believed a promise, so verse 13 only refers to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Sarah—not Enoch or Abel.

Hebrews does not mention any promises concerning Enoch and Abel in verses 4–5. And the author specifically mentions Abel was dead and Enoch was not.

Second, there is a simple grammatical explanation. Enoch is the exception to the rule. The rule is that everyone listed did not escape death. And then Enoch is the exception since it was stated, “"He did not see death."”
 Quoting: b4its2l8


There are only a few lines in the bible that mention Enoch - but there is actually a book of Enoch:

Wiki:

Book of Enoch

The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch;[1] Ge'ez: መጽሐፈ ሄኖክ mets’iḥāfe hēnoki) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) of the text are estimated to date from about 300 BCE, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably to the 1st century BCE.[2]

It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as noncanonical or noninspired. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian groups.
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Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him

Enoch was removed to a better world
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And of course - there is controversy swirling around Enoch - whether he did or didn't die.

This author says yes, he did die:

From WND:

If you look closely, though, what the Bible actually does say is that Enoch died.

Yes, it’s in your Bible. Enoch died.

“In Hebrews chapter 11, there is a list of famous heroes from the Old Testament,” says Kovacs. “There are great names mentioned including Abraham, Noah, Abel and Enoch. And guess what the Bible says about these outstanding characters who followed the true God of the universe. It says they all died.”

These all died in faith, not having received the promises (Hebrews 11:13, King James Version)

Feel free to open up any translation of your own Bible right now, and you’ll see that these Old Testament heroes all died.

All these faithful ones died without receiving what God had promised them … (New Living Translation)

All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised … (New International Version)
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In this article we get the opposite argument - he didn't die:

[link to answersingenesis.org (secure)]

Small Excerpt:

On the surface it would appear we have two contradicting statements only a few sentences apart. But there are a couple of ways of looking at this supposed conundrum.

First, there is a simple theological explanation. In Hebrews 11 there appears to be a division of main ideas presented in verses 1–5 and verses 6–13. Notice that verse 13 states, “"These all died in faith, not having received the promises."” What promises? When we look back on verses 7–11 we see that each person who is mentioned received and believed a promise, so verse 13 only refers to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Sarah—not Enoch or Abel.

Hebrews does not mention any promises concerning Enoch and Abel in verses 4–5. And the author specifically mentions Abel was dead and Enoch was not.

Second, there is a simple grammatical explanation. Enoch is the exception to the rule. The rule is that everyone listed did not escape death. And then Enoch is the exception since it was stated, “"He did not see death."”
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There are only a few lines in the bible that mention Enoch - but there is actually a book of Enoch:

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Book of Enoch

The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch;[1] Ge'ez: መጽሐፈ ሄኖክ mets’iḥāfe hēnoki) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) of the text are estimated to date from about 300 BCE, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably to the 1st century BCE.[2]

It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as noncanonical or noninspired. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian groups.
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And of course - there is controversy swirling around Enoch - whether he did or didn't die.

This author says yes, he did die:

From WND:

If you look closely, though, what the Bible actually does say is that Enoch died.

Yes, it’s in your Bible. Enoch died.

“In Hebrews chapter 11, there is a list of famous heroes from the Old Testament,” says Kovacs. “There are great names mentioned including Abraham, Noah, Abel and Enoch. And guess what the Bible says about these outstanding characters who followed the true God of the universe. It says they all died.”

These all died in faith, not having received the promises (Hebrews 11:13, King James Version)

Feel free to open up any translation of your own Bible right now, and you’ll see that these Old Testament heroes all died.

All these faithful ones died without receiving what God had promised them … (New Living Translation)

All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised … (New International Version)
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In this article we get the opposite argument - he didn't die:

[link to answersingenesis.org (secure)]

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On the surface it would appear we have two contradicting statements only a few sentences apart. But there are a couple of ways of looking at this supposed conundrum.

First, there is a simple theological explanation. In Hebrews 11 there appears to be a division of main ideas presented in verses 1–5 and verses 6–13. Notice that verse 13 states, “"These all died in faith, not having received the promises."” What promises? When we look back on verses 7–11 we see that each person who is mentioned received and believed a promise, so verse 13 only refers to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Sarah—not Enoch or Abel.

Hebrews does not mention any promises concerning Enoch and Abel in verses 4–5. And the author specifically mentions Abel was dead and Enoch was not.

Second, there is a simple grammatical explanation. Enoch is the exception to the rule. The rule is that everyone listed did not escape death. And then Enoch is the exception since it was stated, “"He did not see death."”
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There are only a few lines in the bible that mention Enoch - but there is actually a book of Enoch:

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Book of Enoch

The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch;[1] Ge'ez: መጽሐፈ ሄኖክ mets’iḥāfe hēnoki) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) of the text are estimated to date from about 300 BCE, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably to the 1st century BCE.[2]

It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as noncanonical or noninspired. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian groups.
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Why is the book of Enoch important for anyone who studies end times or eschatology?

From sacred-texts.com:

The Book of Enoch, written during the second century B.C.E., is one of the most important non-canonical apocryphal works, and probably had a huge influence on early Christian, particularly Gnostic, beliefs. Filled with hallucinatory visions of heaven and hell, angels and devils,

Enoch introduced concepts such as fallen angels, the appearance of a Messiah, Resurrection, a Final Judgement, and a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth. Interspersed with this material are quasi-scientific digressions on calendrical systems, geography, cosmology, astronomy, and meteorology.
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In this article we get the opposite argument - he didn't die:

[link to answersingenesis.org (secure)]

Small Excerpt:

On the surface it would appear we have two contradicting statements only a few sentences apart. But there are a couple of ways of looking at this supposed conundrum.

First, there is a simple theological explanation. In Hebrews 11 there appears to be a division of main ideas presented in verses 1–5 and verses 6–13. Notice that verse 13 states, “"These all died in faith, not having received the promises."” What promises? When we look back on verses 7–11 we see that each person who is mentioned received and believed a promise, so verse 13 only refers to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Sarah—not Enoch or Abel.

Hebrews does not mention any promises concerning Enoch and Abel in verses 4–5. And the author specifically mentions Abel was dead and Enoch was not.

Second, there is a simple grammatical explanation. Enoch is the exception to the rule. The rule is that everyone listed did not escape death. And then Enoch is the exception since it was stated, “"He did not see death."”
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There are only a few lines in the bible that mention Enoch - but there is actually a book of Enoch:

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Book of Enoch

The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch;[1] Ge'ez: መጽሐፈ ሄኖክ mets’iḥāfe hēnoki) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) of the text are estimated to date from about 300 BCE, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably to the 1st century BCE.[2]

It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as noncanonical or noninspired. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian groups.
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Book of Enoch ( for the last days )


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Why is the book of Enoch important for anyone who studies end times or eschatology?

From sacred-texts.com:

The Book of Enoch, written during the second century B.C.E., is one of the most important non-canonical apocryphal works, and probably had a huge influence on early Christian, particularly Gnostic, beliefs. Filled with hallucinatory visions of heaven and hell, angels and devils,

Enoch introduced concepts such as fallen angels, the appearance of a Messiah, Resurrection, a Final Judgement, and a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth. Interspersed with this material are quasi-scientific digressions on calendrical systems, geography, cosmology, astronomy, and meteorology.
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Before I begin with the Book of Enoch - there is something that I find particularly intriguing.

It's the statement that it will be 70 generations from Noah until judgement day.

First however, I would like to deal with the controversy surrounding this verse.
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There are only a few lines in the bible that mention Enoch - but there is actually a book of Enoch:

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Book of Enoch

The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch;[1] Ge'ez: መጽሐፈ ሄኖክ mets’iḥāfe hēnoki) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) of the text are estimated to date from about 300 BCE, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably to the 1st century BCE.[2]

It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as noncanonical or noninspired. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian groups.
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Book of Enoch ( for the last days )


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Why is the book of Enoch important for anyone who studies end times or eschatology?

From sacred-texts.com:

The Book of Enoch, written during the second century B.C.E., is one of the most important non-canonical apocryphal works, and probably had a huge influence on early Christian, particularly Gnostic, beliefs. Filled with hallucinatory visions of heaven and hell, angels and devils,

Enoch introduced concepts such as fallen angels, the appearance of a Messiah, Resurrection, a Final Judgement, and a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth. Interspersed with this material are quasi-scientific digressions on calendrical systems, geography, cosmology, astronomy, and meteorology.
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Before I begin with the Book of Enoch - there is something that I find particularly intriguing.

It's the statement that it will be 70 generations from Noah until judgement day.

First however, I would like to deal with the controversy surrounding this verse.
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The preterist view on Enoch:

According to 1 Enoch 10.12, this judgment was to occur “seventy generations” from Enoch, during which time the angels who sinned were to be kept in bonds “until the day of the consummation, the great judgment in which the age shall be consummated” (16.1-2). It should be noted that according to Luke (who claims to have “traced the course of all things accurately from the first” in Luke 1.1-4), there are exactly seventy generations from the generation of Enoch to the generation of Jesus Christ (Luke 3.23-37). In other words, it would not have been presumptuous for Jude to claim that 1 Enoch addressed the concerns of the Christians to whom he wrote. The generation of Jesus Christ had not yet passed away.

From a preterist perspective, 1 Enoch adds considerable weight to the many passages in the New Testament which clearly indicate that the consummation of the age together with Christ’s second coming took place in A.D. 70 (in the destruction of Jerusalem). This being the case, it should not surprise us to learn that 1 Enoch was banned by Hilary, Jerome, and Augustine and was subsequently lost to Western Christendom for over a thousand years. In short, it was suppressed. Why? Because it could not be made to fit their idea that Christ’s coming had not yet been fulfilled. 1 Enoch’s “seventy generations” was too problematic. It could not be made to stretch beyond the First Century. Copies of 1 Enoch soon disappeared, and were it not for the fact that a number of copies have since been discovered and translated, we would have no knowledge of 1 Enoch outside of the references made to it in the Book of Jubilees, the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs, and in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers (many of whom regarded 1 Enoch as Scripture: i.e. Barnabas, Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus, and Tertullian)....

[link to planetpreterist.com]
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Why is the book of Enoch important for anyone who studies end times or eschatology?

From sacred-texts.com:

The Book of Enoch, written during the second century B.C.E., is one of the most important non-canonical apocryphal works, and probably had a huge influence on early Christian, particularly Gnostic, beliefs. Filled with hallucinatory visions of heaven and hell, angels and devils,

Enoch introduced concepts such as fallen angels, the appearance of a Messiah, Resurrection, a Final Judgement, and a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth. Interspersed with this material are quasi-scientific digressions on calendrical systems, geography, cosmology, astronomy, and meteorology.
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Before I begin with the Book of Enoch - there is something that I find particularly intriguing.

It's the statement that it will be 70 generations from Noah until judgement day.

First however, I would like to deal with the controversy surrounding this verse.
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The preterist view on Enoch:

According to 1 Enoch 10.12, this judgment was to occur “seventy generations” from Enoch, during which time the angels who sinned were to be kept in bonds “until the day of the consummation, the great judgment in which the age shall be consummated” (16.1-2). It should be noted that according to Luke (who claims to have “traced the course of all things accurately from the first” in Luke 1.1-4), there are exactly seventy generations from the generation of Enoch to the generation of Jesus Christ (Luke 3.23-37). In other words, it would not have been presumptuous for Jude to claim that 1 Enoch addressed the concerns of the Christians to whom he wrote. The generation of Jesus Christ had not yet passed away.

From a preterist perspective, 1 Enoch adds considerable weight to the many passages in the New Testament which clearly indicate that the consummation of the age together with Christ’s second coming took place in A.D. 70 (in the destruction of Jerusalem). This being the case, it should not surprise us to learn that 1 Enoch was banned by Hilary, Jerome, and Augustine and was subsequently lost to Western Christendom for over a thousand years. In short, it was suppressed. Why? Because it could not be made to fit their idea that Christ’s coming had not yet been fulfilled. 1 Enoch’s “seventy generations” was too problematic. It could not be made to stretch beyond the First Century. Copies of 1 Enoch soon disappeared, and were it not for the fact that a number of copies have since been discovered and translated, we would have no knowledge of 1 Enoch outside of the references made to it in the Book of Jubilees, the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs, and in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers (many of whom regarded 1 Enoch as Scripture: i.e. Barnabas, Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus, and Tertullian)....

[link to planetpreterist.com]
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The futurists view - or those who see it as today, believe the seventy generations start from the flood that destroys the earth:

One source:

To calculate a generation, we use 70 years. 70 X 70 is 4900.

Before I get to the approximate date, let's look at the date from another direction. Jesus said, in Matthew 24, that one generation would see Him return in victory over evil. The nation that sees Israel become a nation starts in 1948. Add 70 to 1948 and get 2018. We can see an approximate timeline from this. Subtract 7 years from this for the great tribulation and you get 2011 as a starting point of approximation....

And from biblehub:

And God sent Uriel to Noah, the son of Lamech, to warn him of the flood, and ordered Raphael to bind Azazel, and lay him in a dark cleft in the wilderness, there to remain till the fire received him at the day of judgment. Gabriel had to set the giants one against the other that they might perish by mutual slaughter; to Michael fell the duty of punishing the evil angels; they were to witness the destruction of their offspring, and then be buried under the earth for seventy generations till the judgment day, when they should be cast into eternal fire. Then when all sin and impurity shall be purged away "at the end of all generations," the plant of righteousness shall appear, and a new order of things...
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Starting with Chapter 1 - we see Enoch is a righteous man and in the first few verses is conversing with God:

Enoch 1:1 The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God...
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There are some interesting facts about Methuselah:

He lived 969 years. This was back in the pre-flood era when nearly all lived extremely long lives. Methuselah may not hold the record of living longer than anyone else, but he does hold the record for living longer than any one else RECORDED
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Also - if one will take the time to do the calculations, the global flood of Noah's fame came IMMEDIATELY AFTER Methuselah's death.

As some preachers have suggested, it is almost as though God was waiting for Methuselah to die before he rained down (pun intended) his judgment on the earth.
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Methuselah had a son named Lamech who became the father of Noah
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Just like the flood didn't happen until Methuselah's died;

some believe there will be a trigger point i.e. a righteous man's death before the great tribulation. Billy Graham's death for instance.

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Billy Graham was a Mason and worshiper of the Baphomet, phony Jesus.
It's hard to tell a real man of the True Living God. Steve DeNoon is the only real man of God I know of. The others are all amerkkka worshipers. There are a lot of good end times preachers, but they are in error regarding the us and who founded it. Look on your one dollar bill.
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Starting with Chapter 1 - we see Enoch is a righteous man and in the first few verses is conversing with God:

Enoch 1:1 The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God...
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From [link to www.sacred-texts.com (secure)] we are told the time of trouble is the tribulation:

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed. 2. And he took up his parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God...

And that it is for a remote time in the future:

not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come
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Starting with Chapter 1 - we see Enoch is a righteous man and in the first few verses is conversing with God:

Enoch 1:1 The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God...
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From [link to www.sacred-texts.com (secure)] we are told the time of trouble is the tribulation:

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed. 2. And he took up his parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God...

And that it is for a remote time in the future:

not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come
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Before I continue - it appears many have a problem with the Book of Enoch being any authoritive writing or scripture.

An answer to this in gotquestion is no:

We should treat the Book of Enoch (and the other books like it) in the same manner we do the other Apocryphal writings.

Some of what the Apocrypha says is true and correct, but at the same time, much of it is false and historically inaccurate. If you read these books, you have to treat them as interesting but fallible historical documents, not as the inspired, authoritative Word of God.
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Starting with Chapter 1 - we see Enoch is a righteous man and in the first few verses is conversing with God:

Enoch 1:1 The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God...
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From [link to www.sacred-texts.com (secure)] we are told the time of trouble is the tribulation:

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed. 2. And he took up his parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God...

And that it is for a remote time in the future:

not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come
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Before I continue - it appears many have a problem with the Book of Enoch being any authoritative writing or scripture.

An answer to this in gotquestion is no:

We should treat the Book of Enoch (and the other books like it) in the same manner we do the other Apocryphal writings.

Some of what the Apocrypha says is true and correct, but at the same time, much of it is false and historically inaccurate. If you read these books, you have to treat them as interesting but fallible historical documents, not as the inspired, authoritative Word of God.
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And naturally there's going to be a 'yes'

Jude 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Jude refers to Enoch as ”seventh from Adam”, showing that he understood the history in Genesis as being literal (Enoch is indeed the seventh generation from Adam). Jude had no reason to doubt that the description of the sons of God (angels) was literal as well:

Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Also the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher confirm this story and provide even more details....

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Starting with Chapter 1 - we see Enoch is a righteous man and in the first few verses is conversing with God:

Enoch 1:1 The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God...
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From [link to www.sacred-texts.com (secure)] we are told the time of trouble is the tribulation:

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed. 2. And he took up his parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God...

And that it is for a remote time in the future:

not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Before I continue - it appears many have a problem with the Book of Enoch being any authoritative writing or scripture.

An answer to this in gotquestion is no:

We should treat the Book of Enoch (and the other books like it) in the same manner we do the other Apocryphal writings.

Some of what the Apocrypha says is true and correct, but at the same time, much of it is false and historically inaccurate. If you read these books, you have to treat them as interesting but fallible historical documents, not as the inspired, authoritative Word of God.
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And naturally there's going to be a 'yes'

Jude 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Jude refers to Enoch as ”seventh from Adam”, showing that he understood the history in Genesis as being literal (Enoch is indeed the seventh generation from Adam). Jude had no reason to doubt that the description of the sons of God (angels) was literal as well:

Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Also the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher confirm this story and provide even more details....

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We're also told here - the book of Enoch is to be considered scripture:

Objection: “Jesus and the apostles never called it scripture.”

Response: There is actually a very strong example of Yeshua referring to the Book of Enoch as Scripture. In Matthew 22:29-30, Yeshua first chided the Sadducees for their lack of understanding of “the Scriptures,” then proceeded to teach a concept that is only found in the Book of Enoch.

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This is true. The real reason for the push for illegals and or Muslims to enter countries is to usher in the Mark of The Beast.
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" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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This is true. The real reason for the push for illegals and or Muslims to enter countries is to usher in the Mark of The Beast.
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Most certainly would help the world morphing from a global world order, to the new world order.
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From [link to www.sacred-texts.com (secure)] we are told the time of trouble is the tribulation:

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed. 2. And he took up his parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God...

And that it is for a remote time in the future:

not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come
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Before I continue - it appears many have a problem with the Book of Enoch being any authoritative writing or scripture.

An answer to this in gotquestion is no:

We should treat the Book of Enoch (and the other books like it) in the same manner we do the other Apocryphal writings.

Some of what the Apocrypha says is true and correct, but at the same time, much of it is false and historically inaccurate. If you read these books, you have to treat them as interesting but fallible historical documents, not as the inspired, authoritative Word of God.
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And naturally there's going to be a 'yes'

Jude 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Jude refers to Enoch as ”seventh from Adam”, showing that he understood the history in Genesis as being literal (Enoch is indeed the seventh generation from Adam). Jude had no reason to doubt that the description of the sons of God (angels) was literal as well:

Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Also the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher confirm this story and provide even more details....

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We're also told here - the book of Enoch is to be considered scripture:

Objection: “Jesus and the apostles never called it scripture.”

Response: There is actually a very strong example of Yeshua referring to the Book of Enoch as Scripture. In Matthew 22:29-30, Yeshua first chided the Sadducees for their lack of understanding of “the Scriptures,” then proceeded to teach a concept that is only found in the Book of Enoch.

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Chapter 1 tells us a vision that Enoch had that would take place at the very end of time or the end of the great tribulation.

It's a very frightening vision where everything on earth is destroyed, including man.

Enoch 1: 5 And all shall be smitten with fear

And the Watchers shall quake,

And great fear and trembling shall seize them unto the ends of the earth.

6 And the high mountains shall be shaken,

And the high hills shall be made low,

And shall melt like wax before the flame

7 And the earth shall be wholly rent in sunder,

And all that is upon the earth shall perish,

And there shall be a judgement upon all (men).

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Before I continue - it appears many have a problem with the Book of Enoch being any authoritative writing or scripture.

An answer to this in gotquestion is no:

We should treat the Book of Enoch (and the other books like it) in the same manner we do the other Apocryphal writings.

Some of what the Apocrypha says is true and correct, but at the same time, much of it is false and historically inaccurate. If you read these books, you have to treat them as interesting but fallible historical documents, not as the inspired, authoritative Word of God.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And naturally there's going to be a 'yes'

Jude 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Jude refers to Enoch as ”seventh from Adam”, showing that he understood the history in Genesis as being literal (Enoch is indeed the seventh generation from Adam). Jude had no reason to doubt that the description of the sons of God (angels) was literal as well:

Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Also the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher confirm this story and provide even more details....

[link to bjorkbloggen.com (secure)]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


We're also told here - the book of Enoch is to be considered scripture:

Objection: “Jesus and the apostles never called it scripture.”

Response: There is actually a very strong example of Yeshua referring to the Book of Enoch as Scripture. In Matthew 22:29-30, Yeshua first chided the Sadducees for their lack of understanding of “the Scriptures,” then proceeded to teach a concept that is only found in the Book of Enoch.

[link to torahdrivenlife.com]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Chapter 1 tells us a vision that Enoch had that would take place at the very end of time or the end of the great tribulation.

It's a very frightening vision where everything on earth is destroyed, including man.

Enoch 1: 5 And all shall be smitten with fear

And the Watchers shall quake,

And great fear and trembling shall seize them unto the ends of the earth.

6 And the high mountains shall be shaken,

And the high hills shall be made low,

And shall melt like wax before the flame

7 And the earth shall be wholly rent in sunder,

And all that is upon the earth shall perish,

And there shall be a judgement upon all (men).

[link to www.ccel.org (secure)]
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This is only a judgement on the wicked - the righteous he will have mercy on:

Enoch 1: And will protect the elect,

And mercy shall be upon them.
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This is true. The real reason for the push for illegals and or Muslims to enter countries is to usher in the Mark of The Beast.
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Most certainly would help the world morphing from a global world order, to the new world order.
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new mongrels world order. See they failed to eradicate Christianity, but they can dissolve it by masses of mongrel hordes.

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This is true. The real reason for the push for illegals and or Muslims to enter countries is to usher in the Mark of The Beast.
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Most certainly would help the world morphing from a global world order, to the new world order.
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new mongrels world order. See they failed to eradicate Christianity, but they can dissolve it by masses of mongrel hordes.
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As Jesus said in Matthew 24:35

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away
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When Damascus lies in ruins...and the warmongers come together for the signing of the peace treaty....is when shit gets really real.

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When Damascus lies in ruins...and the warmongers come together for the signing of the peace treaty....is when shit gets really real.

yoda
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These things haven't happened yet - but we all have Jesus' admonition to watch for events and signs:

From [link to www.ucg.org (secure)]

Jesus' Warning to "Watch"

Just What Did He Mean?

...In other words, the closer we draw to the second coming of Christ, the more urgent it is that we awake out of spiritual sleep! Indeed, we have entered the fearful end-time years that are the grand climax of human civilization. If ever there was a time to pay attention and get prepared, it is now!