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Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
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If we go to Revelation 12:3 - we discover the beast of end times is satan - who is a major player, along with the antichrist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71651503


Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns...

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan

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Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast..and it had ten horns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71658096


In order to understand this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


We have to learn more about the beast and where he originated from.

To do this we need to start at Daniel 2.

Here we have a large statue that represents all the empires up to and including the beasts'.

I won't go into Daniel 2, but will merely specify that this beast is the feet of the statue with 10 toes.

The feet we are told are the last kingdom on this earth.
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Most bible experts agree the feet are and extension of the Roman empire - portrayed as the legs on the statue (Daniel 2).

From this verse in Daniel many extrapolate that the feet are a revival of the Roman empire:

Daniel 9:26 and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

Meaning - the people of the prince WHO IS TO COME, are the Roman people, therefore, the prince who is to come will be Roman.
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So now we've answered the first part of this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was - was the Roman empire and the beast that is not (Roman empire no longer in existence, as it was when the temple was destroyed in 70AD).

There are many who believe it's the Ottoman Empire. However, it didn't exist until many centuries later. Besides there's been no temple since 70AD.
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Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
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Here's a list of 1 - 6:

1.
Egypt
2.
Assyria
3.
Babylon
4.
Medo
-
Persia
5.
Greece
6.
Rome

We've already concluded that the 7th kingdom is the Revived Roman kingdom - whatever form/name it takes.

I tend to refer to it as the "global world order" because many countries cooperate in terms of trade; wars through coalitions, etc; currency i.e. dollar is the reserve currency and a considerable amount of trading is done in the dollar
It has a king - unknown at this time. However, I want to address some people/entities who I think it might be.

The eighth kingdom (New World Order) - is ruled by the antichrist.
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Here's a list of 1 - 6:

1.
Egypt
2.
Assyria
3.
Babylon
4.
Medo
-
Persia
5.
Greece
6.
Rome

We've already concluded that the 7th kingdom is the Revived Roman kingdom - whatever form/name it takes.

I tend to refer to it as the "global world order" because many countries cooperate in terms of trade; wars through coalitions, etc; currency i.e. dollar is the reserve currency and a considerable amount of trading is done in the dollar
It has a king - unknown at this time. However, I want to address some people/entities who I think it might be.

The eighth kingdom (New World Order) - is ruled by the antichrist.
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Possibly NATO? Even during the Tribulation there are continual wars, basically from the north, east, and west. NATO/west is quite possibly the Beast kingdom, north is probably Gog/Magog, and east is "the kings of the east".
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Here's a list of 1 - 6:

1.
Egypt
2.
Assyria
3.
Babylon
4.
Medo
-
Persia
5.
Greece
6.
Rome

We've already concluded that the 7th kingdom is the Revived Roman kingdom - whatever form/name it takes.

I tend to refer to it as the "global world order" because many countries cooperate in terms of trade; wars through coalitions, etc; currency i.e. dollar is the reserve currency and a considerable amount of trading is done in the dollar
It has a king - unknown at this time. However, I want to address some people/entities who I think it might be.

The eighth kingdom (New World Order) - is ruled by the antichrist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71703095


Possibly NATO? Even during the Tribulation there are continual wars, basically from the north, east, and west. NATO/west is quite possibly the Beast kingdom, north is probably Gog/Magog, and east is "the kings of the east".
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NATO and the others I've considered are:

FED - US dollar, EU, UN among others.

The entity I want to explore here (just speculating of course) is Mystery Babylon - the woman on the beast with 7 heads (notice 8th is missing)....

She's not exactly a king - but due to the fact that she is sitting on the beast means she's exerting some kind of control over it and the 10 kings.
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I've covered Mystery Babylon somewhat in this thread so won't reprat what I've already posted, but I would like to add this:

The woman on the beast maybe rules the 7th kingdom, which also encompasses all other empires before it. Moreover, she spread her influence throughout the entire world - so we can have this global world order.

This would fulfilled the eighth kingdom being also of the 7th - because it is worldwide.

The question is how does this global world order become the new world order - if Mystery Babylon is destroyed by the beast and the 10 kings?

----

Besides mystery Babylon and antichrist identities being a secret up to this point - we have the 10 kings who we know very little about.
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I've covered Mystery Babylon somewhat in this thread so won't reprat what I've already posted, but I would like to add this:

The woman on the beast maybe rules the 7th kingdom, which also encompasses all other empires before it. Moreover, she spread her influence throughout the entire world - so we can have this global world order.

This would fulfilled the eighth kingdom being also of the 7th - because it is worldwide.

The question is how does this global world order become the new world order - if Mystery Babylon is destroyed by the beast and the 10 kings?

----

Besides mystery Babylon and antichrist identities being a secret up to this point - we have the 10 kings who we know very little about.
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Supporting verses Mystery Babylon:

Rev 17

7 ...mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

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10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
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As soon as he said the disciples asked Jesus when would the end of the age be....I already knew where he was going with it.

Problem is a careful reading of Mathew 24 KJV - tells us they ask Jesus when would the end of the WORLD be.

Also - when Jesus tells us we will SEE him in the holy place from a field or rooftop -

Then I have to wonder how in the world could we SEE him in the temple (2 Thes 2) from a field without some kind of device that would have that capability.

And the same thing applies to knowing about earthquakes, disease, famine in diverse places.

All these capabilities didn't exist in the first century.

We need mass communications/mobile devices for all prophecies in Mathew 24 to be fulfilled.

Luke tells us in the parable of the fig tree:

When you SEE and KNOW of the leaves on the tree then summer is near.

LIKEWISE - when you SEE and KNOW of all these things - the end is close.

Think about Jesus saying - when you HEAR (i.e, radio,word of mouth) of rumours of Wars - it's not end times.

But when you SEE ALL these things.......
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I've covered Mystery Babylon somewhat in this thread so won't reprat what I've already posted, but I would like to add this:

The woman on the beast maybe rules the 7th kingdom, which also encompasses all other empires before it. Moreover, she spread her influence throughout the entire world - so we can have this global world order.

This would fulfilled the eighth kingdom being also of the 7th - because it is worldwide.

The question is how does this global world order become the new world order - if Mystery Babylon is destroyed by the beast and the 10 kings?

----

Besides mystery Babylon and antichrist identities being a secret up to this point - we have the 10 kings who we know very little about.
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She spread her influence throughout the entire world

Because it is worldwide.


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I've covered Mystery Babylon somewhat in this thread so won't reprat what I've already posted, but I would like to add this:

The woman on the beast maybe rules the 7th kingdom, which also encompasses all other empires before it. Moreover, she spread her influence throughout the entire world - so we can have this global world order.

This would fulfilled the eighth kingdom being also of the 7th - because it is worldwide.

The question is how does this global world order become the new world order - if Mystery Babylon is destroyed by the beast and the 10 kings?

----

Besides mystery Babylon and antichrist identities being a secret up to this point - we have the 10 kings who we know very little about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71703095


She spread her influence throughout the entire world

Because it is worldwide.


[link to www.therichest.com]

Jo'e
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I figured there are 4 major possibilities how Mystery Babylon could meet the requirements of being the eighth beast that is also part of the 7th.

Religion is one of them.

Central Banking another - concentrating on Goldman Sachs and the fact that 10 x-goldmanite execs control the entire banking system in the EU - and other financial institutions that all central banks report to i.e. the BIS.

The Fed has significant influence in determine markets and policy in both US and EU.

Others have to do with oil and the internet - but not so much so....
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Seal 2 - Peace taken from the earth:

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To see this in a reverse roll where he IS her as he asks

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As soon as he said the disciples asked Jesus when would the end of the age be....I already knew where he was going with it.

Problem is a careful reading of Mathew 24 KJV - tells us they ask Jesus when would the end of the WORLD be.

Also - when Jesus tells us we will SEE him in the holy place from a field or rooftop -

Then I have to wonder how in the world could we SEE him in the temple (2 Thes 2) from a field without some kind of device that would have that capability.

And the same thing applies to knowing about earthquakes, disease, famine in diverse places.

All these capabilities didn't exist in the first century.

We need mass communications/mobile devices for all prophecies in Mathew 24 to be fulfilled.

Luke tells us in the parable of the fig tree:

When you SEE and KNOW of the leaves on the tree then summer is near.

LIKEWISE - when you SEE and KNOW of all these things - the end is close.

Think about Jesus saying - when you HEAR (i.e, radio,word of mouth) of rumours of Wars - it's not end times.

But when you SEE ALL these things.......
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Or.. your 21st century mind does not understand the meaning. If you stop trying to figure out how this or that could be possible, allow the Bible to interpret the Bible, when you do that you will clearly see you are wrong.

From another thread

Anyone in here know who to whom God sent all the prophets and saints? If you do not know, I highly recommending reading back over the Bible and figuring it out otherwise you are in the dark and will never understand.

Do you know the city in which "our Lord was crucified"?
Do you know the one and only city in the Bible was always referred to as "the great city"?

If you take the time to read these verses and grasp what they are saying, you will start to understand.

Matthew 23:31
Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.


Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

John 18:35

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
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Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
...


Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns...

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan

----

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast..and it had ten horns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71658096


In order to understand this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


We have to learn more about the beast and where he originated from.

To do this we need to start at Daniel 2.

Here we have a large statue that represents all the empires up to and including the beasts'.

I won't go into Daniel 2, but will merely specify that this beast is the feet of the statue with 10 toes.

The feet we are told are the last kingdom on this earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71672278


Most bible experts agree the feet are and extension of the Roman empire - portrayed as the legs on the statue (Daniel 2).

From this verse in Daniel many extrapolate that the feet are a revival of the Roman empire:

Daniel 9:26 and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

Meaning - the people of the prince WHO IS TO COME, are the Roman people, therefore, the prince who is to come will be Roman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71678786


So now we've answered the first part of this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was - was the Roman empire and the beast that is not (Roman empire no longer in existence, as it was when the temple was destroyed in 70AD).

There are many who believe it's the Ottoman Empire. However, it didn't exist until many centuries later. Besides there's been no temple since 70AD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71697522



Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
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That's what is troubling. God has murdered millions of people throughout the OLD TESTAMENT, mostly his chosen ones the house of 12 tribe Israel.

He used Nebuchadnezzar wo he called his "servant" to butcher thousands of his people that were being bad as stiffnecked.

Then he kills his servant Nebuchadnezzar afterwards. I got a news flash how about killing and murdering people yourself? You got famine, disease, pestilence, and your Angels to kill for you so WTF make or entice man to do your evil deeds for you?

I mean don't they have enough sins weighing on top of their own heads by their own deeds? But noooo you enlist them to do your dirty work which puts them into even deeper levels of Hellfire. Odd.

Remember Aaron who was Moses real brother? Well God YHVH murdered his 2 sons who were even priests. Right from the Ark he killed em with some kind of energy beam.

Poor Aaron was not even allowed to mourn in the typical fashion of that era by renting (tearing) his cloths, wailing and putting ashes on his head. Sad.

Then Abraham almost killed his own son for what a test? A game? Sorry but you just don't play like that if you LOVE your creation. Manipulation and mid games are not cool.

IE: From the god murders dot com page
Prosecutor: But Judge, there are so many more!

Judge (gavel): This court orders you to sum up!

Prosecutor: But judge, there are so many more Bible C&Vs remaining that also depict "The God Murders". One written testimony submitted: 399,933 Human Beings were directly murdered by the Biblical God plus 2,017,956 murdered by God痴 followers which equals 2,417,889 plus unknown millions of Human Beings murdered by God.

How many millions of Egypt's firstborn did one of God's Death-Angles murder on God's orders? God's One of God's Death-Angel also murdered 1 million Ethiopians, 500,000 Israelis and probably millions, including the whole world, at the time of Noah. God murdered every man, woman and child in over 60 entire cities at the time of Moses and Joshua!

I request more time. Some writers have estimated God's murders to be over 25 million within the pages of the Bible...

Look if I was a potential life partner for you and I killed millions of people and I told YOU that I would kill you too if you did not love me, what would that make me? A bully.

Ezekiel 23:36-47 God said to me: Hack them to pieces and slay their sons and daughters. Catholic

Ezekiel 25 God said: I will stretch out My hand against you. I will execute great vengeance on them, punishing them furiously. They shall know I am God when I wreak My vengeance on them. Her daughters shall be slaughtered on the mainland by the sword; thus they shall know I am God. I bring King Nebuchadnezzar against Tyre and he shall slay your daughters. He will slay your people and pull your pillars to the ground. Never shall you rebuild. God has spoken. I will thrust you down with those in the pit. I will make you dwell in the nether lands, in the everlasting ruins, so you may never return to take your place in the land of the living. I値l make you a devastation. You shall be no more. You値l be sought, but never found again, so said God.

Ezekiel 20:25 God said: I gave them statutes and ordinances that were not good so they could not live.

Ezekiel 9:4-10 God said: Pass through Jerusalem. Mark an X (Catholic, actually a T / Tau) on the forehead who complain of abominations practiced in it. Do not look at them with pity or show any mercy. Slay utterly old and young, both maids, little children and women. Wipe them out. Do not touch any marked with the X. Defile the temple. Fill the court with the murdered. I (Ezekiel) cried out: God, will you destroy all that is left in Israel? God said: I will not show any mercy.
Ezekiel 5:10-1 God said: Fathers shall eat sons, sons shall eat fathers. I値l inflict punishment on you and scatter you in every direction.

Nuff said.

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Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
...


In order to understand this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


We have to learn more about the beast and where he originated from.

To do this we need to start at Daniel 2.

Here we have a large statue that represents all the empires up to and including the beasts'.

I won't go into Daniel 2, but will merely specify that this beast is the feet of the statue with 10 toes.

The feet we are told are the last kingdom on this earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71672278


Most bible experts agree the feet are and extension of the Roman empire - portrayed as the legs on the statue (Daniel 2).

From this verse in Daniel many extrapolate that the feet are a revival of the Roman empire:

Daniel 9:26 and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

Meaning - the people of the prince WHO IS TO COME, are the Roman people, therefore, the prince who is to come will be Roman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71678786


So now we've answered the first part of this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was - was the Roman empire and the beast that is not (Roman empire no longer in existence, as it was when the temple was destroyed in 70AD).

There are many who believe it's the Ottoman Empire. However, it didn't exist until many centuries later. Besides there's been no temple since 70AD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71697522



Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71703095



That's what is troubling. God has murdered millions of people throughout the OLD TESTAMENT, mostly his chosen ones the house of 12 tribe Israel.

He used Nebuchadnezzar wo he called his "servant" to butcher thousands of his people that were being bad as stiffnecked.

Then he kills his servant Nebuchadnezzar afterwards. I got a news flash how about killing and murdering people yourself? You got famine, disease, pestilence, and your Angels to kill for you so WTF make or entice man to do your evil deeds for you?

I mean don't they have enough sins weighing on top of their own heads by their own deeds? But noooo you enlist them to do your dirty work which puts them into even deeper levels of Hellfire. Odd.

Remember Aaron who was Moses real brother? Well God YHVH murdered his 2 sons who were even priests. Right from the Ark he killed em with some kind of energy beam.

Poor Aaron was not even allowed to mourn in the typical fashion of that era by renting (tearing) his cloths, wailing and putting ashes on his head. Sad.

Then Abraham almost killed his own son for what a test? A game? Sorry but you just don't play like that if you LOVE your creation. Manipulation and mid games are not cool.

IE: From the god murders dot com page
Prosecutor: But Judge, there are so many more!

Judge (gavel): This court orders you to sum up!

Prosecutor: But judge, there are so many more Bible C&Vs remaining that also depict "The God Murders". One written testimony submitted: 399,933 Human Beings were directly murdered by the Biblical God plus 2,017,956 murdered by God痴 followers which equals 2,417,889 plus unknown millions of Human Beings murdered by God.

How many millions of Egypt's firstborn did one of God's Death-Angles murder on God's orders? God's One of God's Death-Angel also murdered 1 million Ethiopians, 500,000 Israelis and probably millions, including the whole world, at the time of Noah. God murdered every man, woman and child in over 60 entire cities at the time of Moses and Joshua!

I request more time. Some writers have estimated God's murders to be over 25 million within the pages of the Bible...

Look if I was a potential life partner for you and I killed millions of people and I told YOU that I would kill you too if you did not love me, what would that make me? A bully.

Ezekiel 23:36-47 God said to me: Hack them to pieces and slay their sons and daughters. Catholic

Ezekiel 25 God said: I will stretch out My hand against you. I will execute great vengeance on them, punishing them furiously. They shall know I am God when I wreak My vengeance on them. Her daughters shall be slaughtered on the mainland by the sword; thus they shall know I am God. I bring King Nebuchadnezzar against Tyre and he shall slay your daughters. He will slay your people and pull your pillars to the ground. Never shall you rebuild. God has spoken. I will thrust you down with those in the pit. I will make you dwell in the nether lands, in the everlasting ruins, so you may never return to take your place in the land of the living. I値l make you a devastation. You shall be no more. You値l be sought, but never found again, so said God.

Ezekiel 20:25 God said: I gave them statutes and ordinances that were not good so they could not live.

Ezekiel 9:4-10 God said: Pass through Jerusalem. Mark an X (Catholic, actually a T / Tau) on the forehead who complain of abominations practiced in it. Do not look at them with pity or show any mercy. Slay utterly old and young, both maids, little children and women. Wipe them out. Do not touch any marked with the X. Defile the temple. Fill the court with the murdered. I (Ezekiel) cried out: God, will you destroy all that is left in Israel? God said: I will not show any mercy.
Ezekiel 5:10-1 God said: Fathers shall eat sons, sons shall eat fathers. I値l inflict punishment on you and scatter you in every direction.

Nuff said.

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I feel the same way towards evil and people like ISIS today that Habakkuk felt in his day.

He said (paraphrasing) - how long do I have to witness all this evil all around me and "violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention"...."wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth."

and God answers:

5 Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvelously: for I will work a work in your days which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

And when God told him he would raise up the Chaldeans Habakkuk said - WHAT!! - they are worse than we are.

So God punishes evil.

And I am glad. Sometimes I wonder why it is taking him so long to end this wicked world we live in; that is getting worse by the hour. I know he wishes no one to perish and his grace has saved me - and lots more to be saved.

But his timing is perfect.
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As soon as he said the disciples asked Jesus when would the end of the age be....I already knew where he was going with it.

Problem is a careful reading of Mathew 24 KJV - tells us they ask Jesus when would the end of the WORLD be.

Also - when Jesus tells us we will SEE him in the holy place from a field or rooftop -

Then I have to wonder how in the world could we SEE him in the temple (2 Thes 2) from a field without some kind of device that would have that capability.

And the same thing applies to knowing about earthquakes, disease, famine in diverse places.

All these capabilities didn't exist in the first century.

We need mass communications/mobile devices for all prophecies in Mathew 24 to be fulfilled.

Luke tells us in the parable of the fig tree:

When you SEE and KNOW of the leaves on the tree then summer is near.

LIKEWISE - when you SEE and KNOW of all these things - the end is close.

Think about Jesus saying - when you HEAR (i.e, radio,word of mouth) of rumours of Wars - it's not end times.

But when you SEE ALL these things.......
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Or.. your 21st century mind does not understand the meaning. If you stop trying to figure out how this or that could be possible, allow the Bible to interpret the Bible, when you do that you will clearly see you are wrong.

From another thread

Anyone in here know who to whom God sent all the prophets and saints? If you do not know, I highly recommending reading back over the Bible and figuring it out otherwise you are in the dark and will never understand.

Do you know the city in which "our Lord was crucified"?
Do you know the one and only city in the Bible was always referred to as "the great city"?

If you take the time to read these verses and grasp what they are saying, you will start to understand.

Matthew 23:31
Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.


Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

John 18:35

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
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My 21st century mind also sees this as being a wonder of technology - where people worship(worldwide) an image of the beast that can both speak and move. Tell me how people in Jesus time could make an image that both spoke and moved. This is on a computer screen of some kind:

Rev 13:14...saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
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Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse....


These "experts" rely on other "experts" to prove evolution is fact.

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Hardly a prophecy when the ones prophesying and the ones who fulfill it are the same group
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Hardly a prophecy when the ones prophesying and the ones who fulfill it are the same group
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Well, I am not so sure about that.

All prophecy comes from God.

In order to fulfill his prophecies he uses leaders of countries, people and even satan.

So actually, the one prophesying is the one fulfilling it.
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Hardly a prophecy when the ones prophesying and the ones who fulfill it are the same group
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Well, I am not so sure about that.

All prophecy comes from God.

In order to fulfill his prophecies he uses leaders of countries, people and even satan.

So actually, the one prophesying is the one fulfilling it.
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I realize many believe the elite are following a script and making it all come true.

God knows that too and has promised us he will "prove" to us - it is he, and he alone who determines our destiny.

But my question is - do you think the elite will partake in their own demise.

Immediately after the antichrist takes control of the New World Order - God commences with the destruction of this world. (Revelation)

God is going to destroy all rich men:

James 5

5 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days....

He will utterly destroy the earth with fire and:

Isaiah 24

Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word.

4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.

5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

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No, God will not deal kindly with the elite and New World Order types.
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I just find it hard to fathom the whole thing.


Especially with prophecy.



The thing with prophecy is if it's really clear, and everyone can read it, then why would the bad guys just keep going ?


So satan can't do anything until everything is taken over anyway ?

Some people get 'raptured'

Satan gets control, but he knows hes gonna lose so he's just trying to corrupt as many as he can ? It seems kinda lame because the NWO just lies and lies and lies. How many people are really going to willingly be a piece of shit ?

So after a while of that, Jesus turns up and just wrecks everything, gets rid of anything Satan related and takes everyone off to heaven.




So God and Jesus are just totally OK with all this, they know it's going to happen, but whatever.

And the bad guys know of this propecy and are totally ok with losing in the end ?
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What everyone in this thread needs to understand is the seals were beginning to be opened upon Jesus' arrival in heaven after his resurrection (HAPPY EASTER BTW)

The seals have already been opened all the way up to the sixth seal. That's why Earth has been such a mess for so long, that's why there is STILL death from starvation with greedy satanists sitting on billions of dollars. Even the fifth seal has been opened if you properly believe the Bible, when Stephen was stoned in the NT.

The sixth seal in the next in line. It's the earthquake that pretty much kicks off the grand finale.

Remember the Jewish year 5777 starts THIS OCTOBER! And many have speculated the false Christ would arise in 5777 because it's a Jubilee year and it's auspiscious number...

If I had to make a guess, the world's largest earthquake in history, the sixth seal, is going to happen in 2016...
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I just find it hard to fathom the whole thing.


Especially with prophecy.



The thing with prophecy is if it's really clear, and everyone can read it, then why would the bad guys just keep going ?


So satan can't do anything until everything is taken over anyway ?

Some people get 'raptured'

Satan gets control, but he knows hes gonna lose so he's just trying to corrupt as many as he can ? It seems kinda lame because the NWO just lies and lies and lies. How many people are really going to willingly be a piece of shit ?

So after a while of that, Jesus turns up and just wrecks everything, gets rid of anything Satan related and takes everyone off to heaven.




So God and Jesus are just totally OK with all this, they know it's going to happen, but whatever.

And the bad guys know of this propecy and are totally ok with losing in the end ?
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Satan is psychotic. He has failed repeatedly to wipe out the Jews and Christians and keep God's prophecies from coming to pass, but he keeps trying anyway. He believes he can outwit God. And all his followers simply do as he tells them, because unlike God, Satan tolerates no dissent.

God handed the world to mankind, but mankind handed it to Satan way back in the Garden of Eden. God could have left us all in slavery to Satan, but Jesus came to offer a way out. And now you know what life is all about: making that choice, being more than a helpless pawn in this cosmic chess match.
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I just find it hard to fathom the whole thing.


Especially with prophecy.



The thing with prophecy is if it's really clear, and everyone can read it, then why would the bad guys just keep going ?


So satan can't do anything until everything is taken over anyway ?

Some people get 'raptured'

Satan gets control, but he knows hes gonna lose so he's just trying to corrupt as many as he can ? It seems kinda lame because the NWO just lies and lies and lies. How many people are really going to willingly be a piece of shit ?

So after a while of that, Jesus turns up and just wrecks everything, gets rid of anything Satan related and takes everyone off to heaven.




So God and Jesus are just totally OK with all this, they know it's going to happen, but whatever.

And the bad guys know of this propecy and are totally ok with losing in the end ?
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Not when you're convinced you are immortal.

They believe all the lies of satan.

Just like satan told Adam and Eve if they ate of the apple - they would never die.

They didn't die that day - but eventually they did.
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I just find it hard to fathom the whole thing.


Especially with prophecy.



The thing with prophecy is if it's really clear, and everyone can read it, then why would the bad guys just keep going ?


So satan can't do anything until everything is taken over anyway ?

Some people get 'raptured'

Satan gets control, but he knows hes gonna lose so he's just trying to corrupt as many as he can ? It seems kinda lame because the NWO just lies and lies and lies. How many people are really going to willingly be a piece of shit ?

So after a while of that, Jesus turns up and just wrecks everything, gets rid of anything Satan related and takes everyone off to heaven.




So God and Jesus are just totally OK with all this, they know it's going to happen, but whatever.

And the bad guys know of this propecy and are totally ok with losing in the end ?
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Satan is psychotic. He has failed repeatedly to wipe out the Jews and Christians and keep God's prophecies from coming to pass, but he keeps trying anyway. He believes he can outwit God. And all his followers simply do as he tells them, because unlike God, Satan tolerates no dissent.

God handed the world to mankind, but mankind handed it to Satan way back in the Garden of Eden. God could have left us all in slavery to Satan, but Jesus came to offer a way out. And now you know what life is all about: making that choice, being more than a helpless pawn in this cosmic chess match.
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Wished I'd seen your answer before I posted mine.

My thoughts exactly!!
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What everyone in this thread needs to understand is the seals were beginning to be opened upon Jesus' arrival in heaven after his resurrection (HAPPY EASTER BTW)

The seals have already been opened all the way up to the sixth seal. That's why Earth has been such a mess for so long, that's why there is STILL death from starvation with greedy satanists sitting on billions of dollars. Even the fifth seal has been opened if you properly believe the Bible, when Stephen was stoned in the NT.

The sixth seal in the next in line. It's the earthquake that pretty much kicks off the grand finale.

Remember the Jewish year 5777 starts THIS OCTOBER! And many have speculated the false Christ would arise in 5777 because it's a Jubilee year and it's auspiscious number...

If I had to make a guess, the world's largest earthquake in history, the sixth seal, is going to happen in 2016...
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Definitely agree we are at the 6th seal - no matter what route we took to get there :)
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Revelation timeline:

7 seal judgements (Rev 6): - Mathew 24, what Jesus calls time of sorrows

First four seal judgements horses of apocalypse start journey -

1) NWO-globalization - by deception; Math 24, see that no man deceives you.
2) war(terrorism?) - Math 24, nation will rise against nation.
3) price of food soars, - Math 24, there will be famine in diverse places.
4) 1/4 part men dies (hunger,pestilence, catastrophes, etc) - Math 24, disease; earthquakes.

5) Christians are killed for believing in Jesus - Math 24, many will be killed for my namesake

6) Great earthquake, sun blackens, moon red, many signs in sky take place; men hide, for the great day of his wrath is come - Acts 2 supports this; men hide in caves fearing wrath of God.

7) Opens up the seven trumpet judgements.

The 144,000 witnesses who are sealed (protected) - and all hell is literally unleashed on earth.

7 Trumpet judgements:

1) 1/3 of all trees destroyed, all grass burned up.

2) Sun, moon stars all effect what is going to happen on earth(differently).

3) 1/3 of sea life, and ships - die and destroyed.

4) The fresh water supply becomes poisonous.

5) Men that received mark are tortured 5 months

6) Another 1/3 part men dies (war? ELE????) in a little over a year.

7) Opens up the seven vial judgements.

Characters of Revelation: first beast(AC), second beast(false prophet), woman on the beast (mystery babylon).

The AC ultimately destroys the woman on the beast, mystery babylon (USD? elite? Fed?).

The AC's sidekick (false prophet) tells all they must worship AC's image, and take a mark to buy or sell.
If anyone does this they are "lost forever".

Meanwhile the earth is going through such turmoil everyone is asking what is going on - sound familiar?

We will hear the gospel from the 144,000 who will be given a song no man can learn, and temple rebuilt.

2 witnesses will appear - and preach the gospel. After 3 1/2 years will be killed by beast.

They will lay in street 3 days and in front of the whole world God will ascend them into heaven.

The easiest part of all this time to recognize is the last 3 1/2 years:

The AC's army will surround Jerusalem. The AC will go in and defile the temple sanctuary. and declare himself to be God. He will then rule the world. He and his sidekick will be able to perform miracles.

7 Vial judgements: At the end of time - only people with mark of beast should be around to receive the double portion of God's wrath - you definitely don't want to be around for this.

Then Jesus meets beast in what is know as armageddon. Throws the beast in lake of fire, puts satan in pit for 1000 years. After 1000 years satan is released. Tries to get nations to go against Jerusalem. After satan looses that battle is thrown into lake of fire.

God creates new heaven and earth. Jerusalem is center, and God will live with us.


legend:

Beast (EU, antichrist)
Sidekick - false Prophet 2nd beast revelation - USA , China?
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