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Message Subject All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost complete at present
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As I said I've posted this before - but here it is for those who've never read it:

Why do I say the gog magog war takes place before the great tribulation?

Because of these 5 verses:

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (the transgressors are the Israelis) Then the antichrist will be revealed

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) (When we see the antichrist in the holy place)

Matthew 24:21.....21 For then shall be great tribulation

Ezekiel 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward. (This is after the gog magog war their transgressions come to full)

Ezekiel 39:23 ...Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
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Here's a condensed explanation of each verse:

Matthew 24:15,21 says - the antichrist will stand in the holy place - and then there shall be a great tribulation.

Daniel 8:23 tells us - when the transgressors are come to full - the antichrist will stand up (this is the same antichrist in Matthew 24).

We learn in Ezekiel 39 23 - it's the Israelis who are the transgressors and in verse 22 - after Israel witnesses the supernatural power of God during the Gog Magog war - they accept him from that day on as their God.
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How do we know the antichrist is not Antiochus IV Epiphanes, as this article would have us believe?

[link to www.christiancourier.com (secure)]

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Let's start here:

2 Thessalonians 2:4...he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Antiochus never went into the temple and declared that "he" himself (the man - not zeus the idol) was god. Nor, for that matter has anyone else.
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Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But {Daniel} go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

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Here in Daniel 12, we are given the number of days from the daily sacrifice taken away - to judgement day.
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How do we know the above is actually days - and not years; like the 70 weeks of Daniel?

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Well we know already from Matthew 24 that there will be a great tribulation - after the antichrist stands in the temple.

Then in Matthew 24 Jesus issues an 'emergency/mandatory evacuation order':

Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains...

And the Israelis that flee will live in the mountains for 3 1/2 years
 
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