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Shifts in frequency leading to shifts in consciousness also lead to shifts in the body. This may feel uncomfortable, painful, strange, anxiety inducing with all its bodily symptoms and quite disorienting since it usually introduces new sensations or new unknown sets or combinations of sensations.

Two more physical symptoms that seem prevalent during this process of frequency shift are digestive issues and body chills.

Some have mentioned here that they feel like eating less. That is because too much food and too dense food can't be properly digested at this time. It takes longer, hangs around in your intestines because your energy is moving upwards the solar plexus towards your head and is becoming lighter. You need more energy to integrate the shift and adjust to the changes, so there is less energy left for digesting food. When you switch to a lighter diet and eat less often, your body utilizes the nutrients very well and needs a lot less food. You seem to be energized and nurtured by something else than regularly ingested food.

The other symptom mentioned here is 'full body chills'. They appear out of nowhere. It may feel like you're about to get a cold, but then you don't. You don't even feel cold. They come and go.
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THIS happened to me today. Completely out of nowhere and it was intense! Luckily for now it has stopped. It was so intense that I called my mom to tell her what was going on and how strange it was that it came on so suddenly, like a ton of bricks.

Many different things/symptoms you have mentioned are spot on with me in recent times (starting a couple of years ago through present).

hf
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Thanks for sharing. These chills will become a sort of compass like when someone is thinking about you or when you hear truth...then you'll get those kinds of chills just for a moment and sometimes only on the forearms or the crown of your head.
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:phew:

Good to know! If this is what is actually happening with me. But today's full body chills sent me back into bed with extra layers on because I had to be under covers.

P.S. I am normally not a cold/chilly person by any means. In fact I am the opposite. Always warmer than others and needing the temps lowered so that I can be comfortable.
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ME TOO!
Yesterday I put on 2 long sleeved shirts under a sweatshirt and was STILL COLD. I am usually so very warm in just one long sleeved shirt!
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Just to raise awareness. At times you may feel like impending doom, almost like dying. To many this is already a familiar feeling. But this time it's happening on a higher frequency and might feel scary. keep grounding yourself and empty your mind as much as you can. Meditating can make things worse (the scary sensations) this time. It's better to move your body, feel your body, energize your body through moving meditation, sports, staying connected to it.
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Seriously? LOL I'm REALLY not liking you now :D....I swear like i said about 99 percent of the shite on here is new age nonsense, and usually involves aliens and everything is going to be alright...

I have wanted to die a few times in my life, and I have actually been dead so dying is not something that is a trouble to me...and I have NEVER wanted to die so badly as I did in the past two weeks. I have also been waved off my "medicine" during this time, meaning...no altered state journeys (boo)...my guides really want me to stay with my body...which is so tired...energize me? Are you smoking crack? Take my pulse :D I'm actually working with NOTHING..no frequency, no drums, only my crystal ball and I had to put that away last night...no music, no meditation...

I rarely get a "vacation" from "the medicine" and I'm still able to take care of my people if they need me..and oddly these past two weeks they have needed me less which is good...but that's about it...I read, study, and binge watch BBC series that let me separate my thinking brain from the other self in a complete way...and THAT is actually helping me a lot.

I'm managing the body with my form of energy medicine, Chinese cupping and lots and lots of water and sleep.
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It will not be easy to calibrate your body to this energy. Energy grounding is very important. Exercises such as tai chi or qi gong can help.

you will suddenly feel extremely disgusted with certain foods and at times feel not hungry at all for prolonged periods of time.
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I absolutely abhor these threads because 99 percent of people do not know what they're talking about or get messages from aliens or mary or Jesus and 99 percent of it is bullshit...and then anyone anywhere in the world who also has a "symptom" gets on here and soon it becomes an epidemic :D

But you're nailing it. I'm forcing myself to eat, literally forcing..and there's nothing I want..it's bad enough I finally just ate PBHoney last night because I could not think of anything else I wanted. I am not sick.... I thought some of it could be more solar stuff from the CMEs last week...

also...I'm not a headache person, I don't even have meds in the house...and I had the strangest headache...like a STAB on the left at the cervical spine area..atlas axis but to the left of it, then...(this is gross)..the feeling as if a giant tape worm was working it's way pulsing up and over my skull....

the "I don't care about anything" and the mental blank...just blank...feelings...what are feelings? I feel nothing..literally (this is sort of how my Kundra break felt)...

I'm a medicine person (NA) and this isn't my first rodeo so to speak...but I do admit to being puzzled over how this one is presenting, so good to see someone else out there gets it...

***I probably should read the rest of your posts just to make sure Jesus, mary or aliens didn't send you...)

I also work with an extremely interesting and powerful form of energy in healing that is not well known outside of certain circles...so to say I'm sparky normally..is putting it mildly...now I'm simply volcanic.

I have to watch every thought, be careful who and how I touch people...if I have to be honest, I have literally only left the house twice since xmas...because when I am like this I set people off...like rockets...sometimes just looking at me makes them angry...having a conversation with a "normal person" no matter what it's about...makes them angry...I can be merely getting groceries, or, like today...getting my hair cut and BOOM...the hair cutter was fighting not yelling at me...she became more terse and brusk the longer she touched me. I have NO idea why it's worse now than normal...(I'm always careful) but it is WAY worse than normal and WAY worse than it was the last time I had an energy "adjustment"...seriously..it feels kind of bad that you know if you go out, someone is gonna just look at you and get pissed....(no I'm not homely, no I'm not fat, no I'm not monstrous in any possible way...) I cannot talk to normal people....you should be me at the club trying to dance and be normal...once a man gets too drunk and I am foolish enough to dance with him..he misinterprets my energy to mean something totally different and I have to zap him to protect myself...or, if they're not drunk they shake like a leaf the whole time. Imagine what my 'intimate" life is like :( SO..no club, no nothing...just my safe place...LOL this totally sucks. Even NYE...I dared not go out for thinking that IF there were a terrorist within 500 miles, for sure it would find me..that's how this feels.

This has been going on but getting progressively worse since TGiving, when, after dinner I asked a friend's father "So, tell me, why don't you like this technology?" and that poor poor man jumped up, started screaming at me, forced me to leave his house, threatening police... and my friend was like WTF? He has never acted like that before...

The feeling in the feet is something we call "rooting" and you are correct, grounding is important.
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The energy you experience will settle, but not necessarily lessen. You will learn how to manage it. At this time you're shooting out magnetism drawing others attention and also function as a vortex drawing people's negativity and baggage that they haven't dealt with yet up to the surface. All they need to be is in your presence and the subconscious stirs up their suppressed emotions which usually come up as anger which usually hides sadness, etc.
Just accept that you don't have to have a social life in the usual sense right now and find other activities that interest you that may not require the presence of other people.

Since you touched on another thing....a tapeworm, it's now time to tell that it is very advisable for people to start thinking about a herbal parasite cleanse. Everyone has them, from microscopic to visible. Get rid of the buggers and you will experience even more clarity, good vibes and health, but brace yourself for a ride through hell during the parasite cleanse. They are intertwined symbiotically with your mind and emotions.
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The ascension is speeding up with each passing day. It's simply amazing that it has gotten to this point.

Not everyone will ascend. Only those who chose to. Small minority.
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THIS happened to me today. Completely out of nowhere and it was intense! Luckily for now it has stopped. It was so intense that I called my mom to tell her what was going on and how strange it was that it came on so suddenly, like a ton of bricks.

Many different things/symptoms you have mentioned are spot on with me in recent times (starting a couple of years ago through present).

hf
 Quoting: Simple27


Thanks for sharing. These chills will become a sort of compass like when someone is thinking about you or when you hear truth...then you'll get those kinds of chills just for a moment and sometimes only on the forearms or the crown of your head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50245273


phew

Good to know! If this is what is actually happening with me. But today's full body chills sent me back into bed with extra layers on because I had to be under covers.

P.S. I am normally not a cold/chilly person by any means. In fact I am the opposite. Always warmer than others and needing the temps lowered so that I can be comfortable.
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ME TOO!
Yesterday I put on 2 long sleeved shirts under a sweatshirt and was STILL COLD. I am usually so very warm in just one long sleeved shirt!
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Glad I'm not alone with that! hugs
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The list of previous symptoms of spiritual awakening that you can google are outdated now. They have changed with this energetic shift. Some are still the same, some are no more and many new sensations can be experienced now.
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What's with the sparkles? The transparent flow of information that can be observed at times? Anyone know? It's very geometric...
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Have you been through the cosmic serpent? If not google that and see if that shape/color means something.
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Feels like, it will all come down soon.

Something is in the making right now..
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Agreed. changes have been . the old fabric held up quite well until now but people's emotions are being stirred to such an extreme that they won't play along much longer and tap into their own power. It may happen so fast to everyone's surprise who keeps thinking 2020 or 2030.
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According to at least one NA tribe that actually is in the process of moving from the coast to the high ground
[link to yle.fi]

they are to be moved BY 2017. So my guess is 2016 is the year of the purge. It may or may not be the year the mother births the mystery egg. But for sure it will be birthing pangs.
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Feels like, it will all come down soon.

Something is in the making right now..
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Agreed. changes have been . the old fabric held up quite well until now but people's emotions are being stirred to such an extreme that they won't play along much longer and tap into their own power. It may happen so fast to everyone's surprise who keeps thinking 2020 or 2030.
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According to at least one NA tribe that actually is in the process of moving from the coast to the high ground
[link to yle.fi]

they are to be moved BY 2017. So my guess is 2016 is the year of the purge. It may or may not be the year the mother births the mystery egg. But for sure it will be birthing pangs.
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Think of it as labor pains, but consider the 26000 year cycle of the earth to get a better feel in terms possible of length of time of those labor pains that we're being part of now and for some time already.

The stars appear to "fall back"(precession)1 degree in 72 years due to the wobble of the earth's axis. Multiply 72 years times 360 degrees of the compass = 25,980 years.
Divide by 12 = 2,160 years (one age). Pisces began in 148 BC, so subtract that from 2,160 = 2012.
December 21, 2012 is the "official" date because it is the winter solstice and also the longest night of the year.
The new age of Aquarius did not start in any particular year. It's still an ongoing transition.
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Something to consider for everyone looking forward to the new age 'shift'...

Consider this shift is in fact part of a cycle,

TPTB/whole duality power structure within the matrix, already understand the nature of this cycle, and position themselves to reap handsomely from it. You may have heard of this referred to as the 'harvest'.

This narrative of there being an enlightenment, ascendance, entering into the "golden age", is exactly whats indoctrinated into the mystery school / occult / PTB followers...

There is a huge deception in the new age culture, and I warn everyone to look beyond the dualistic promise of a golden age, and of your godly ascendance.

You are already a highly evolved sovereign consciousness, you are trapped within a holographic matrix, subjected to loops and cycles in false time. (Remember in Matrix, when Neo meets the Architect and is told he is the 5th cycle of the anomaly?)

Just as you approach what could be considered a real awakening, the system and years of new age and religious programming, leads you right back into its sandbox, while you're just busy marveling at how much bigger of a cage you now find yourself in.

This matrix is predicated on the recycling of [our] ignorance. You entered this matrix a very long time ago, already a so called 'enlightened' being. You are not mountain climbing your way up some karmic peak, hoping to one day come out a Buddha. You suspended your consciousness, and fell asleep into the machine.

The forces that be, will do everything they can to mislead and misdirect your possible awakening, by walking you right back into the next installment/loop of time....
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You are right, but there is a difference between the new age programming by the elite and between what people are genuinely and undeniably feeling on the most intimate and personal level. noone can indoctrinate anyone with the result of such experiences. TPTP know about the cycles but have not encountered it at such intensity before since the emergence of humanity. It's getting out of their hands and they are affected as well in a way that they can't remain egotistical. the overriding energy is one of connectedness. They try to disconnect people from them and create separation which was possible in the piscean age, in the dark ages without mass communications and the internet. That kind of previous leaving people in the dark, manipulating them and trying to rule over them is crazy to attempt this time.
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Ok now there are two people here who know what the hell they are talking about...incredible.

I will bring it down to plain old English, and speaking as an elder. First neither of you has been given the teaching about souls/versus consciousness, so I can't help you there, you won't be given that until you're ready (I didn't take it well and it took a few weeks and then opening to seeing it for me to be OK with it so this is not the sort of thing you just SAY) but I will say this...not everyone is the same. Not every human on this earth is going to have any of this, at all, ever. You still speak of TPTB and ELITE and that's OK for where you are so we won't go into that either. The only difference between a TPTB, or an elite, and the homeless guy downtown is money (this is in reference to integration)so what the homeless guy downtown does on the micro level is repeated on the macro and mezzo levels, things radiate up...^ we have the governments we deserve, no excuses. We have the wars we manifest, no excuses. The behavior of the homeless man on the micro level has FAR more consequences on the macro and mezzo levels...

example..Joe Neighbor has an affair...who cares. His wife finds out, either leaves him or stays and life radiates outward..from the consequences of that act..so...your district senator has an affair...he gets caught by a reporter, who reports the story...consequences abound, radiate out...then the mezzo level...a State senator has an affair, he serves on military advisory committee, he is key in decision making...a big deal is coming...Iran for example...nuclear talks...an Iranian spy finds out the senator is having an affair and Iran threatens to expose him to the world...he has everything at risk...not just his wife, not just his family...his constituents, NAY the world (should nuclear disaster happen due to his decision)...

The ONLY difference between the "little guy" and TPTB/Elite, is that we grant them their power, then refuse to supervise them...and when they act like us...we fail to realize that they are like us.

There is no savior coming, of any name or ilk, not in the clouds, and not on a spaceship. There is no ascension, there is nothing you can do to stop the Mother from doing what she has always done. This IS a "prison planet" so to speak there was no place but here to put the human consciousness, which every human has which is also part of the collective, and then the cosmic consciousness, which is energy in it's purest form.

Human life is now and always has been cyclical, human bodies are now used for spiritual experiences. The only way for human consciousness to be raised to the soul(ar) level is those energies that are actually capable (NOT ALL ARE, clearly you can see this...look around you, be HONEST) of that kind of connection...and I mean truly capable. I do not mean those human energies that get in a slot and stay there round and round they go...religions, cults, anything to help them order their lives because they are incapable of ordering them otherwise.

Once the earth has finished her birth the earth will begin again, just like she always has, the fifth creation. Survival on earth is going to have nothing to do with anything more than luck and location, it will be spartan, as before. The ancestors will come before the birth and offer escape. Going with them is your funeral (unless you relish being trapped in a human body that's being used for spare parts for eternity). Stay with the earth let your energy meld with hers. Let your consciousness and OR Soul, do what it's going to do, and enjoy.

I suppose from where you're standing this seems scary...but it's not really..think of it this way, you're on the chopping block the crowd is jeering, the ax awaits your neck...do you look at the sky and inhale knowing that upon exhale you will be in another world, or do you panic and shake and quake and worry...well, let me tell you, the outcome is the same either way...it's the misery before the exhale that you can spare yourself if you choose to...breath, being scared isn't going to change the outcome.

ANY fear is an illusion, any story you tell yourself...that makes your heart pound...let it go. Know fear, NO love, NO fear, KNOW love.
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You are right Merc everyone has a role, just meant some are at different levels for different paths at this time. Doing good and hope you are as well. Always appreciate your mindset and heartfelt search for the truth.rockon
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Opposition is also a very important role people play. It creates friction and has an awakening effect. otherwise when things are too comfy and everyone just agrees, the rate of personal growth slows down to almost null.
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Nope. I wanna say 'bullshit' but don't want to offend you, am only saying now so you get the gist of what I mean to convey.

What you say does make logical sense on the surface, but your views also tie in with tptb thinking of 'if they had everything they'd just be lazy', and they spread that mindset until everyone believes it and subscribes to the 'nothing in life is free', 'earn your keep', 'work your ass off' etc. mindset. BS BS BS.

We only labor these days to line the pockets of the elite and keep them in control. Truth is, we don't need to labor at all. If no one had to struggle for the basics, then basically creativity and ingenuity would be currency.

You can have all the tech in the world, a cultured human will still see the value in handcrafted human art and invention. THIS is what they don't have, what they can't predict, what they can't cultivate, and it scares them shitless.

This world has been worked like fieldhands, so if currency folded tomorrow, yeah, folks would loaf. Folks would drink and drug, sleep late, play. Fucked if we don't deserve it, either. But believe it or not, eventually we would get bored of that, and we would labor for our true passions, since we could. It is then that we would grow spiritually by leaps and bounds.

Suffering and struggle on this level isn't useful at all. You do not need that, and are worth so much more. You don't need to hurt to grow.
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I agree that you don't need to hurt to grow, but emotions are propelling energy that are sometimes needed when people are still very unaware. just like a kid that won't learn until it burns his hand on the stove. One uyou discover your autonomy it is no longer necessary other than differences in opinion that make you think deeper.

Creativity is what TPTB don't have. Creativity doesn't flourish in control freaks. If they destroyed human spirit as they're trying to it would be a very dry and uniform uneventful unexciting world.
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This is not true. You do have to hurt to grow, but growing from hurt is a choice. This is not true in nature, it is not true for humans. Without opposition, you have nothing to push against, nothing to teach you what you are...providing you want to learn.

When I give this teaching I usually have the person close their eyes, do some circular breathing, then have them place themselves in a completely white room, everything, including everything about them is white. I have them continue to breath....in that entirely white room. Then I ask them to tell me about themselves. That is always interesting. They cannot tell me about themselves because they cannot experience themselves. Then I ask them to introduce a black dot on the opposing wall and to examine that black dot against the backdrop of white....BOOM. They get it. You cannot experience all of who you are if you only experience a life of rainbow fairy farts, hearts and flowers. I call this the Love Light and Crappiness conundrum.

I believe that what both of you are struggling with is what I refer to as repetition. Where you hurt and heal, the rinse and repeat, over and over and over THE SAME THING...our lady of perpetual hurt..that is the slot car I referred to and one only need look around to see people who have done the same thing in different ways, over, and over, and over. You cannot help those people. Either one day they will recognize or they won't. Mostly they won't.

A good progression would involve getting slammed, wiped, hurt...then getting up assessing your actions, letting it go, and going forward...then getting slammed to the ground again, but this time, something new...and this time you take a look from all angles assess your actions, decide what outcome you want, then act on it. Get up, go forward, fall down...this is the way of growing. It is a fallacy that life should include no pain. Like Thomas Carlyle once said, "Change is painful, but ever needful".

Who the hell wants to experience life in a lily white room? Every ache, every loss, every single thing that has almost killed me has only served to make me stronger...but I chose that. I had to actively choose not to be broken, and not to define my life by the pain....rather an ancient fulcrum comes to mind...yin yang, balance, black and white in balance.
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Something to consider for everyone looking forward to the new age 'shift'...

Consider this shift is in fact part of a cycle,

TPTB/whole duality power structure within the matrix, already understand the nature of this cycle, and position themselves to reap handsomely from it. You may have heard of this referred to as the 'harvest'.

This narrative of there being an enlightenment, ascendance, entering into the "golden age", is exactly whats indoctrinated into the mystery school / occult / PTB followers...

There is a huge deception in the new age culture, and I warn everyone to look beyond the dualistic promise of a golden age, and of your godly ascendance.

You are already a highly evolved sovereign consciousness, you are trapped within a holographic matrix, subjected to loops and cycles in false time. (Remember in Matrix, when Neo meets the Architect and is told he is the 5th cycle of the anomaly?)

Just as you approach what could be considered a real awakening, the system and years of new age and religious programming, leads you right back into its sandbox, while you're just busy marveling at how much bigger of a cage you now find yourself in.

This matrix is predicated on the recycling of [our] ignorance. You entered this matrix a very long time ago, already a so called 'enlightened' being. You are not mountain climbing your way up some karmic peak, hoping to one day come out a Buddha. You suspended your consciousness, and fell asleep into the machine.

The forces that be, will do everything they can to mislead and misdirect your possible awakening, by walking you right back into the next installment/loop of time....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35845926


You are right, but there is a difference between the new age programming by the elite and between what people are genuinely and undeniably feeling on the most intimate and personal level. noone can indoctrinate anyone with the result of such experiences. TPTP know about the cycles but have not encountered it at such intensity before since the emergence of humanity. It's getting out of their hands and they are affected as well in a way that they can't remain egotistical. the overriding energy is one of connectedness. They try to disconnect people from them and create separation which was possible in the piscean age, in the dark ages without mass communications and the internet. That kind of previous leaving people in the dark, manipulating them and trying to rule over them is crazy to attempt this time.
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Ok now there are two people here who know what the hell they are talking about...incredible.

I will bring it down to plain old English, and speaking as an elder. First neither of you has been given the teaching about souls/versus consciousness, so I can't help you there, you won't be given that until you're ready (I didn't take it well and it took a few weeks and then opening to seeing it for me to be OK with it so this is not the sort of thing you just SAY) but I will say this...not everyone is the same. Not every human on this earth is going to have any of this, at all, ever. You still speak of TPTB and ELITE and that's OK for where you are so we won't go into that either. The only difference between a TPTB, or an elite, and the homeless guy downtown is money (this is in reference to integration)so what the homeless guy downtown does on the micro level is repeated on the macro and mezzo levels, things radiate up...^ we have the governments we deserve, no excuses. We have the wars we manifest, no excuses. The behavior of the homeless man on the micro level has FAR more consequences on the macro and mezzo levels...

example..Joe Neighbor has an affair...who cares. His wife finds out, either leaves him or stays and life radiates outward..from the consequences of that act..so...your district senator has an affair...he gets caught by a reporter, who reports the story...consequences abound, radiate out...then the mezzo level...a State senator has an affair, he serves on military advisory committee, he is key in decision making...a big deal is coming...Iran for example...nuclear talks...an Iranian spy finds out the senator is having an affair and Iran threatens to expose him to the world...he has everything at risk...not just his wife, not just his family...his constituents, NAY the world (should nuclear disaster happen due to his decision)...

The ONLY difference between the "little guy" and TPTB/Elite, is that we grant them their power, then refuse to supervise them...and when they act like us...we fail to realize that they are like us.

There is no savior coming, of any name or ilk, not in the clouds, and not on a spaceship. There is no ascension, there is nothing you can do to stop the Mother from doing what she has always done. This IS a "prison planet" so to speak there was no place but here to put the human consciousness, which every human has which is also part of the collective, and then the cosmic consciousness, which is energy in it's purest form.

Human life is now and always has been cyclical, human bodies are now used for spiritual experiences. The only way for human consciousness to be raised to the soul(ar) level is those energies that are actually capable (NOT ALL ARE, clearly you can see this...look around you, be HONEST) of that kind of connection...and I mean truly capable. I do not mean those human energies that get in a slot and stay there round and round they go...religions, cults, anything to help them order their lives because they are incapable of ordering them otherwise.

Once the earth has finished her birth the earth will begin again, just like she always has, the fifth creation. Survival on earth is going to have nothing to do with anything more than luck and location, it will be spartan, as before. The ancestors will come before the birth and offer escape. Going with them is your funeral (unless you relish being trapped in a human body that's being used for spare parts for eternity). Stay with the earth let your energy meld with hers. Let your consciousness and OR Soul, do what it's going to do, and enjoy.

I suppose from where you're standing this seems scary...but it's not really..think of it this way, you're on the chopping block the crowd is jeering, the ax awaits your neck...do you look at the sky and inhale knowing that upon exhale you will be in another world, or do you panic and shake and quake and worry...well, let me tell you, the outcome is the same either way...it's the misery before the exhale that you can spare yourself if you choose to...breath, being scared isn't going to change the outcome.

ANY fear is an illusion, any story you tell yourself...that makes your heart pound...let it go. Know fear, NO love, NO fear, KNOW love.
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I've been hearing "spiritual awakening" for a while now, yet I only see people being more and more nasty towards one another. I was all for the "positive future" crowd but I'm beginning to see that you're all just delusional. Nothing is changing for the better, it is only staying the same, or getting worse.
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You are correct. Devolution on the macro/mezzo level is what is happening and rapidly. At the same time individuals can be having energetic experiences with the earth/sun/magnetosphere...along with some body/mind/spirit shifts with their own selves. Please do not expect this to have ANY affect whatsoever in any sort of widespread meaningful way, it won't. However, that does not absolve YOU from acting in a good way for YOU on the micro level. What can go wrong? It can only radiate out, so why not affect YOUR environment in a good way and let the rest sort itself out. Don't waste your energy worrying about what other people are not doing...they're not doing it and they aren't going to...so why waste your energy worrying about them...look to self...
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Something to consider for everyone looking forward to the new age 'shift'...

Consider this shift is in fact part of a cycle,

TPTB/whole duality power structure within the matrix, already understand the nature of this cycle, and position themselves to reap handsomely from it. You may have heard of this referred to as the 'harvest'.

This narrative of there being an enlightenment, ascendance, entering into the "golden age", is exactly whats indoctrinated into the mystery school / occult / PTB followers...

There is a huge deception in the new age culture, and I warn everyone to look beyond the dualistic promise of a golden age, and of your godly ascendance.

You are already a highly evolved sovereign consciousness, you are trapped within a holographic matrix, subjected to loops and cycles in false time. (Remember in Matrix, when Neo meets the Architect and is told he is the 5th cycle of the anomaly?)

Just as you approach what could be considered a real awakening, the system and years of new age and religious programming, leads you right back into its sandbox, while you're just busy marveling at how much bigger of a cage you now find yourself in.

This matrix is predicated on the recycling of [our] ignorance. You entered this matrix a very long time ago, already a so called 'enlightened' being. You are not mountain climbing your way up some karmic peak, hoping to one day come out a Buddha. You suspended your consciousness, and fell asleep into the machine.

The forces that be, will do everything they can to mislead and misdirect your possible awakening, by walking you right back into the next installment/loop of time....
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You are right, but there is a difference between the new age programming by the elite and between what people are genuinely and undeniably feeling on the most intimate and personal level. noone can indoctrinate anyone with the result of such experiences. TPTP know about the cycles but have not encountered it at such intensity before since the emergence of humanity. It's getting out of their hands and they are affected as well in a way that they can't remain egotistical. the overriding energy is one of connectedness. They try to disconnect people from them and create separation which was possible in the piscean age, in the dark ages without mass communications and the internet. That kind of previous leaving people in the dark, manipulating them and trying to rule over them is crazy to attempt this time.
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Ok now there are two people here who know what the hell they are talking about...incredible.

I will bring it down to plain old English, and speaking as an elder. First neither of you has been given the teaching about souls/versus consciousness, so I can't help you there, you won't be given that until you're ready (I didn't take it well and it took a few weeks and then opening to seeing it for me to be OK with it so this is not the sort of thing you just SAY) but I will say this...not everyone is the same. Not every human on this earth is going to have any of this, at all, ever. You still speak of TPTB and ELITE and that's OK for where you are so we won't go into that either. The only difference between a TPTB, or an elite, and the homeless guy downtown is money (this is in reference to integration)so what the homeless guy downtown does on the micro level is repeated on the macro and mezzo levels, things radiate up...^ we have the governments we deserve, no excuses. We have the wars we manifest, no excuses. The behavior of the homeless man on the micro level has FAR more consequences on the macro and mezzo levels...

example..Joe Neighbor has an affair...who cares. His wife finds out, either leaves him or stays and life radiates outward..from the consequences of that act..so...your district senator has an affair...he gets caught by a reporter, who reports the story...consequences abound, radiate out...then the mezzo level...a State senator has an affair, he serves on military advisory committee, he is key in decision making...a big deal is coming...Iran for example...nuclear talks...an Iranian spy finds out the senator is having an affair and Iran threatens to expose him to the world...he has everything at risk...not just his wife, not just his family...his constituents, NAY the world (should nuclear disaster happen due to his decision)...

The ONLY difference between the "little guy" and TPTB/Elite, is that we grant them their power, then refuse to supervise them...and when they act like us...we fail to realize that they are like us.

There is no savior coming, of any name or ilk, not in the clouds, and not on a spaceship. There is no ascension, there is nothing you can do to stop the Mother from doing what she has always done. This IS a "prison planet" so to speak there was no place but here to put the human consciousness, which every human has which is also part of the collective, and then the cosmic consciousness, which is energy in it's purest form.

Human life is now and always has been cyclical, human bodies are now used for spiritual experiences. The only way for human consciousness to be raised to the soul(ar) level is those energies that are actually capable (NOT ALL ARE, clearly you can see this...look around you, be HONEST) of that kind of connection...and I mean truly capable. I do not mean those human energies that get in a slot and stay there round and round they go...religions, cults, anything to help them order their lives because they are incapable of ordering them otherwise.

Once the earth has finished her birth the earth will begin again, just like she always has, the fifth creation. Survival on earth is going to have nothing to do with anything more than luck and location, it will be spartan, as before. The ancestors will come before the birth and offer escape. Going with them is your funeral (unless you relish being trapped in a human body that's being used for spare parts for eternity). Stay with the earth let your energy meld with hers. Let your consciousness and OR Soul, do what it's going to do, and enjoy.

I suppose from where you're standing this seems scary...but it's not really..think of it this way, you're on the chopping block the crowd is jeering, the ax awaits your neck...do you look at the sky and inhale knowing that upon exhale you will be in another world, or do you panic and shake and quake and worry...well, let me tell you, the outcome is the same either way...it's the misery before the exhale that you can spare yourself if you choose to...breath, being scared isn't going to change the outcome.

ANY fear is an illusion, any story you tell yourself...that makes your heart pound...let it go. Know fear, NO love, NO fear, KNOW love.
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there are all kinds of different people on all levels from poor to rich, there are poor people who if they had power would abuse it as many if not all of today's leaders and people who hold most money, but it took a certain nature in people to get to power and money and that was rarely a caring one. Often it came out of a void and lack of having experienced love. As cliche as it sounds powerful people want to be loved, they spent all that energy to get where they are because they have an insatiable need for attention.
It is an imbalance. It's never enough and rich people are often very greedy. People have different priorities and many within the younger generations don't see the same excitement about getting rich and powerful as it was common in previous generations. The elite is a different breed. The people who are sensitive and becoming more conscious would not behave the way the elite does if they were in their shoes.
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Opposition is also a very important role people play. It creates friction and has an awakening effect. otherwise when things are too comfy and everyone just agrees, the rate of personal growth slows down to almost null.
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Nope. I wanna say 'bullshit' but don't want to offend you, am only saying now so you get the gist of what I mean to convey.

What you say does make logical sense on the surface, but your views also tie in with tptb thinking of 'if they had everything they'd just be lazy', and they spread that mindset until everyone believes it and subscribes to the 'nothing in life is free', 'earn your keep', 'work your ass off' etc. mindset. BS BS BS.

We only labor these days to line the pockets of the elite and keep them in control. Truth is, we don't need to labor at all. If no one had to struggle for the basics, then basically creativity and ingenuity would be currency.

You can have all the tech in the world, a cultured human will still see the value in handcrafted human art and invention. THIS is what they don't have, what they can't predict, what they can't cultivate, and it scares them shitless.

This world has been worked like fieldhands, so if currency folded tomorrow, yeah, folks would loaf. Folks would drink and drug, sleep late, play. Fucked if we don't deserve it, either. But believe it or not, eventually we would get bored of that, and we would labor for our true passions, since we could. It is then that we would grow spiritually by leaps and bounds.

Suffering and struggle on this level isn't useful at all. You do not need that, and are worth so much more. You don't need to hurt to grow.
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I agree that you don't need to hurt to grow, but emotions are propelling energy that are sometimes needed when people are still very unaware. just like a kid that won't learn until it burns his hand on the stove. One uyou discover your autonomy it is no longer necessary other than differences in opinion that make you think deeper.

Creativity is what TPTB don't have. Creativity doesn't flourish in control freaks. If they destroyed human spirit as they're trying to it would be a very dry and uniform uneventful unexciting world.
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This is not true. You do have to hurt to grow, but growing from hurt is a choice. This is not true in nature, it is not true for humans. Without opposition, you have nothing to push against, nothing to teach you what you are...providing you want to learn.

When I give this teaching I usually have the person close their eyes, do some circular breathing, then have them place themselves in a completely white room, everything, including everything about them is white. I have them continue to breath....in that entirely white room. Then I ask them to tell me about themselves. That is always interesting. They cannot tell me about themselves because they cannot experience themselves. Then I ask them to introduce a black dot on the opposing wall and to examine that black dot against the backdrop of white....BOOM. They get it. You cannot experience all of who you are if you only experience a life of rainbow fairy farts, hearts and flowers. I call this the Love Light and Crappiness conundrum.

I believe that what both of you are struggling with is what I refer to as repetition. Where you hurt and heal, the rinse and repeat, over and over and over THE SAME THING...our lady of perpetual hurt..that is the slot car I referred to and one only need look around to see people who have done the same thing in different ways, over, and over, and over. You cannot help those people. Either one day they will recognize or they won't. Mostly they won't.

A good progression would involve getting slammed, wiped, hurt...then getting up assessing your actions, letting it go, and going forward...then getting slammed to the ground again, but this time, something new...and this time you take a look from all angles assess your actions, decide what outcome you want, then act on it. Get up, go forward, fall down...this is the way of growing. It is a fallacy that life should include no pain. Like Thomas Carlyle once said, "Change is painful, but ever needful".

Who the hell wants to experience life in a lily white room? Every ache, every loss, every single thing that has almost killed me has only served to make me stronger...but I chose that. I had to actively choose not to be broken, and not to define my life by the pain....rather an ancient fulcrum comes to mind...yin yang, balance, black and white in balance.
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When you dwell in duality you need opposites to experience the world, but duality can be transcended and that has nothing to do with rainbow farts.
Humans are not animals who need to be conditioned like the Pavlov dog. Our toolbox has expanded and we can make conscious choices based on intellectual thought, reflection, empirical thought, our intuition and higher guidance. If you ignore this and don't make any personal effort to grow, you remain in a more animalistic existence where you only grow through hurt.
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I've been hearing "spiritual awakening" for a while now, yet I only see people being more and more nasty towards one another. I was all for the "positive future" crowd but I'm beginning to see that you're all just delusional. Nothing is changing for the better, it is only staying the same, or getting worse.
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You are correct. Devolution on the macro/mezzo level is what is happening and rapidly. At the same time individuals can be having energetic experiences with the earth/sun/magnetosphere...along with some body/mind/spirit shifts with their own selves. Please do not expect this to have ANY affect whatsoever in any sort of widespread meaningful way, it won't. However, that does not absolve YOU from acting in a good way for YOU on the micro level. What can go wrong? It can only radiate out, so why not affect YOUR environment in a good way and let the rest sort itself out. Don't waste your energy worrying about what other people are not doing...they're not doing it and they aren't going to...so why waste your energy worrying about them...look to self...
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look to self is correct.
no widespread meaning of what people are experiencing not correct.
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Sorry Op, but I strongly disagree with you. People will continue to bury their heads in the sand and hope for the status quo to continue because the thought of failure or a fight, leaves them paralyzed with fear. Corporate psychopath, bullies will continue to rape and pillage. Politicians will continue to turn a blind eye and lie to everyone so long as they become enormously wealthy by doing so.
We are doomed. There's no hope for man. Let's hope that some leader, with his finger on the button, is brave enough to push it and put an end to the long line of bullshit most of us who aren't cruel have had to live with.
Let's face it tho. After the dust settles and if there is anyone left standing, they will be first in line to be the next "ruling elite".
It's sad and never ending. We are fucked either way.
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AND we have another winner :) yes we are fucked, but, thankfully fucked in balance. I'm flying above looking down and seeing what is happening and all I can think is WTF? why are they doing that? WE decide our outcome, what we do is what happens to us. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not know why there is so much fear about being fucked anyway.... I really don't.
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Sorry Op, but I strongly disagree with you. People will continue to bury their heads in the sand and hope for the status quo to continue because the thought of failure or a fight, leaves them paralyzed with fear. Corporate psychopath, bullies will continue to rape and pillage. Politicians will continue to turn a blind eye and lie to everyone so long as they become enormously wealthy by doing so.
We are doomed. There's no hope for man. Let's hope that some leader, with his finger on the button, is brave enough to push it and put an end to the long line of bullshit most of us who aren't cruel have had to live with.
Let's face it tho. After the dust settles and if there is anyone left standing, they will be first in line to be the next "ruling elite".
It's sad and never ending. We are fucked either way.
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AND we have another winner :) yes we are fucked, but, thankfully fucked in balance. I'm flying above looking down and seeing what is happening and all I can think is WTF? why are they doing that? WE decide our outcome, what we do is what happens to us. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not know why there is so much fear about being fucked anyway.... I really don't.
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You can decide all you want. Nothing happens if you do not put things in motion. Some things cannot be changed for a reason. Putting up with being fucked is not a productive approach. Acceptance is in order when you realize things cannot change and you need to move through a certain experience. Fear is not a beneficial companion as we discussed previously.
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Shifts in frequency leading to shifts in consciousness also lead to shifts in the body. This may feel uncomfortable, painful, strange, anxiety inducing with all its bodily symptoms and quite disorienting since it usually introduces new sensations or new unknown sets or combinations of sensations.

Two more physical symptoms that seem prevalent during this process of frequency shift are digestive issues and body chills.

Some have mentioned here that they feel like eating less. That is because too much food and too dense food can't be properly digested at this time. It takes longer, hangs around in your intestines because your energy is moving upwards the solar plexus towards your head and is becoming lighter. You need more energy to integrate the shift and adjust to the changes, so there is less energy left for digesting food. When you switch to a lighter diet and eat less often, your body utilizes the nutrients very well and needs a lot less food. You seem to be energized and nurtured by something else than regularly ingested food.

The other symptom mentioned here is 'full body chills'. They appear out of nowhere. It may feel like you're about to get a cold, but then you don't. You don't even feel cold. They come and go.
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You are describing all of my symptoms of the last days, if not weeks..

Also I opened an old etui with my Shiva pendant and let the box open from there on..

Right before the energies went wild.
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Feels like, it will all come down soon.

Something is in the making right now..
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Agreed. changes have been . the old fabric held up quite well until now but people's emotions are being stirred to such an extreme that they won't play along much longer and tap into their own power. It may happen so fast to everyone's surprise who keeps thinking 2020 or 2030.
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According to at least one NA tribe that actually is in the process of moving from the coast to the high ground
[link to yle.fi]

they are to be moved BY 2017. So my guess is 2016 is the year of the purge. It may or may not be the year the mother births the mystery egg. But for sure it will be birthing pangs.
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Think of it as labor pains, but consider the 26000 year cycle of the earth to get a better feel in terms possible of length of time of those labor pains that we're being part of now and for some time already.

The stars appear to "fall back"(precession)1 degree in 72 years due to the wobble of the earth's axis. Multiply 72 years times 360 degrees of the compass = 25,980 years.
Divide by 12 = 2,160 years (one age). Pisces began in 148 BC, so subtract that from 2,160 = 2012.
December 21, 2012 is the "official" date because it is the winter solstice and also the longest night of the year.
The new age of Aquarius did not start in any particular year. It's still an ongoing transition.
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I don't do numbers or star signs for this, I do elders, oral tradition, timekeeper wisdom. When the "egg" gets too big and off balance it is "born" always has been, always will be, through the creations. It's funny even talking about this stuff publicly, used to be taboo. We know it is coming soon because the animals tell, and so does the earth. As she begins preparation to "birth" she will expand and we all know what that means...Expanding earth theory...after the birth she explodes, then implodes, shrinking, and the "sling" to a new orbit, and start again. I posted the science of this somewhere else, but Expanding earth theory, Planetary Displacement Theory, and Crust in the Core, are all hard science that backs up the timekeeper wisdom. I personally think the moon and the sun and our magnetosphere act as a sort of forceps, their tug helps the core out. Didn't you ever wonder why indigenous people always refer to the earth as The Mother? This is why. She also nurtures all who live her...and of course we thank her by destroying her, we always have, we always will.

There isn't anything to be afraid of...inhale, exhale, start over.

I have no idea why humans persist in pretending they are not nature. Humans are nature, like ants, and trees, and birds, and bees...nature is ugly, she practices renewal through destruction (Kali Ma, Pele..those energies)..you cannot build something new until the old has been destroyed....We go into the forest and see a deer torn to bits by coyotes and we mourn the deer when we SHOULD mourn the deer and celebrate the clever coyotes full belly. THIS is in balance, this is nature, you are nature.
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The energy you experience will settle, but not necessarily lessen. You will learn how to manage it. At this time you're shooting out magnetism drawing others attention and also function as a vortex drawing people's negativity and baggage that they haven't dealt with yet up to the surface. All they need to be is in your presence and the subconscious stirs up their suppressed emotions which usually come up as anger which usually hides sadness, etc.
Just accept that you don't have to have a social life in the usual sense right now and find other activities that interest you that may not require the presence of other people.

Since you touched on another thing....a tapeworm, it's now time to tell that it is very advisable for people to start thinking about a herbal parasite cleanse. Everyone has them, from microscopic to visible. Get rid of the buggers and you will experience even more clarity, good vibes and health, but brace yourself for a ride through hell during the parasite cleanse. They are intertwined symbiotically with your mind and emotions.
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Interesting.



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Sorry Op, but I strongly disagree with you. People will continue to bury their heads in the sand and hope for the status quo to continue because the thought of failure or a fight, leaves them paralyzed with fear. Corporate psychopath, bullies will continue to rape and pillage. Politicians will continue to turn a blind eye and lie to everyone so long as they become enormously wealthy by doing so.
We are doomed. There's no hope for man. Let's hope that some leader, with his finger on the button, is brave enough to push it and put an end to the long line of bullshit most of us who aren't cruel have had to live with.
Let's face it tho. After the dust settles and if there is anyone left standing, they will be first in line to be the next "ruling elite".
It's sad and never ending. We are fucked either way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12886818


AND we have another winner :) yes we are fucked, but, thankfully fucked in balance. I'm flying above looking down and seeing what is happening and all I can think is WTF? why are they doing that? WE decide our outcome, what we do is what happens to us. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not know why there is so much fear about being fucked anyway.... I really don't.
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You can decide all you want. Nothing happens if you do not put things in motion. Some things cannot be changed for a reason. Putting up with being fucked is not a productive approach. Acceptance is in order when you realize things cannot change and you need to move through a certain experience. Fear is not a beneficial companion as we discussed previously.
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I'm sorry, you're not understanding. This OP is correct WE (the collective) are fucked. WE as individuals decide..what we do is what happens to us. Please think about this a bit...because DO is a verb, and I used that in my post above which you may have missed because your post was about putting things in motion, which of course is what happens...when you DO. Embrace the fuckedness energy never dissipates, it merely changes form.

Acceptance implies lack of resistance? I accept therefore I do not resist? (yes/no?)...What you resist, persists. This is a universal truth. Fear is useful (makes you run when you need to run hide when you need to hide) it is a response of nature...however living in the fear in the mind..I think that's what you mean, or as my exMIL used to say, borrowing trouble. Remember balance... I do not want a hero who is so fearless he is reckless...I'd prefer a hero with a healthy does of respect for life combined with a can-do mcgyver sort of attitude. Situational acceptance...would be...accept that which you cannot change...change the things I can and have the wisdom to know the difference (St. Frank)...do not resist what IS. McGyver...find a way to work with what IS.
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Agreed. changes have been . the old fabric held up quite well until now but people's emotions are being stirred to such an extreme that they won't play along much longer and tap into their own power. It may happen so fast to everyone's surprise who keeps thinking 2020 or 2030.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50245273


According to at least one NA tribe that actually is in the process of moving from the coast to the high ground
[link to yle.fi]

they are to be moved BY 2017. So my guess is 2016 is the year of the purge. It may or may not be the year the mother births the mystery egg. But for sure it will be birthing pangs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69547224


Think of it as labor pains, but consider the 26000 year cycle of the earth to get a better feel in terms possible of length of time of those labor pains that we're being part of now and for some time already.

The stars appear to "fall back"(precession)1 degree in 72 years due to the wobble of the earth's axis. Multiply 72 years times 360 degrees of the compass = 25,980 years.
Divide by 12 = 2,160 years (one age). Pisces began in 148 BC, so subtract that from 2,160 = 2012.
December 21, 2012 is the "official" date because it is the winter solstice and also the longest night of the year.
The new age of Aquarius did not start in any particular year. It's still an ongoing transition.
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I don't do numbers or star signs for this, I do elders, oral tradition, timekeeper wisdom. When the "egg" gets too big and off balance it is "born" always has been, always will be, through the creations. It's funny even talking about this stuff publicly, used to be taboo. We know it is coming soon because the animals tell, and so does the earth. As she begins preparation to "birth" she will expand and we all know what that means...Expanding earth theory...after the birth she explodes, then implodes, shrinking, and the "sling" to a new orbit, and start again. I posted the science of this somewhere else, but Expanding earth theory, Planetary Displacement Theory, and Crust in the Core, are all hard science that backs up the timekeeper wisdom. I personally think the moon and the sun and our magnetosphere act as a sort of forceps, their tug helps the core out. Didn't you ever wonder why indigenous people always refer to the earth as The Mother? This is why. She also nurtures all who live her...and of course we thank her by destroying her, we always have, we always will.

There isn't anything to be afraid of...inhale, exhale, start over.

I have no idea why humans persist in pretending they are not nature. Humans are nature, like ants, and trees, and birds, and bees...nature is ugly, she practices renewal through destruction (Kali Ma, Pele..those energies)..you cannot build something new until the old has been destroyed....We go into the forest and see a deer torn to bits by coyotes and we mourn the deer when we SHOULD mourn the deer and celebrate the clever coyotes full belly. THIS is in balance, this is nature, you are nature.
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Old concepts may be thrown up side down and completely rethought and reevaluated. That in no way means that the elders were or are wrong, but things are being added and are expanding in every possible way. Think about this. The sun nurtures us too and we are becoming more perceptive of that. There is food coming from the sunlight that nurtures us. Maybe we need to question whether sun isn't a mother/female...earth produces seeds. Maybe earth is also a father/male....just saying

Keep asking questions. Don't accept any belief systems and traditions. The older the systems the more errors they often contain. It's like with incest. If you reproduce within your own group and keep repeating, degeneration happens. Regeneration happens when you always stay fresh in your mind, ask questions, stay curious and maintain your ability to feel and sense.

As previously stated, one common experience may be to further question old values and religious systems to the point you didn't dare to go to before.
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Nope. I wanna say 'bullshit' but don't want to offend you, am only saying now so you get the gist of what I mean to convey.

What you say does make logical sense on the surface, but your views also tie in with tptb thinking of 'if they had everything they'd just be lazy', and they spread that mindset until everyone believes it and subscribes to the 'nothing in life is free', 'earn your keep', 'work your ass off' etc. mindset. BS BS BS.

We only labor these days to line the pockets of the elite and keep them in control. Truth is, we don't need to labor at all. If no one had to struggle for the basics, then basically creativity and ingenuity would be currency.

You can have all the tech in the world, a cultured human will still see the value in handcrafted human art and invention. THIS is what they don't have, what they can't predict, what they can't cultivate, and it scares them shitless.

This world has been worked like fieldhands, so if currency folded tomorrow, yeah, folks would loaf. Folks would drink and drug, sleep late, play. Fucked if we don't deserve it, either. But believe it or not, eventually we would get bored of that, and we would labor for our true passions, since we could. It is then that we would grow spiritually by leaps and bounds.

Suffering and struggle on this level isn't useful at all. You do not need that, and are worth so much more. You don't need to hurt to grow.
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I agree that you don't need to hurt to grow, but emotions are propelling energy that are sometimes needed when people are still very unaware. just like a kid that won't learn until it burns his hand on the stove. One uyou discover your autonomy it is no longer necessary other than differences in opinion that make you think deeper.

Creativity is what TPTB don't have. Creativity doesn't flourish in control freaks. If they destroyed human spirit as they're trying to it would be a very dry and uniform uneventful unexciting world.
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This is not true. You do have to hurt to grow, but growing from hurt is a choice. This is not true in nature, it is not true for humans. Without opposition, you have nothing to push against, nothing to teach you what you are...providing you want to learn.

When I give this teaching I usually have the person close their eyes, do some circular breathing, then have them place themselves in a completely white room, everything, including everything about them is white. I have them continue to breath....in that entirely white room. Then I ask them to tell me about themselves. That is always interesting. They cannot tell me about themselves because they cannot experience themselves. Then I ask them to introduce a black dot on the opposing wall and to examine that black dot against the backdrop of white....BOOM. They get it. You cannot experience all of who you are if you only experience a life of rainbow fairy farts, hearts and flowers. I call this the Love Light and Crappiness conundrum.

I believe that what both of you are struggling with is what I refer to as repetition. Where you hurt and heal, the rinse and repeat, over and over and over THE SAME THING...our lady of perpetual hurt..that is the slot car I referred to and one only need look around to see people who have done the same thing in different ways, over, and over, and over. You cannot help those people. Either one day they will recognize or they won't. Mostly they won't.

A good progression would involve getting slammed, wiped, hurt...then getting up assessing your actions, letting it go, and going forward...then getting slammed to the ground again, but this time, something new...and this time you take a look from all angles assess your actions, decide what outcome you want, then act on it. Get up, go forward, fall down...this is the way of growing. It is a fallacy that life should include no pain. Like Thomas Carlyle once said, "Change is painful, but ever needful".

Who the hell wants to experience life in a lily white room? Every ache, every loss, every single thing that has almost killed me has only served to make me stronger...but I chose that. I had to actively choose not to be broken, and not to define my life by the pain....rather an ancient fulcrum comes to mind...yin yang, balance, black and white in balance.
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When you dwell in duality you need opposites to experience the world, but duality can be transcended and that has nothing to do with rainbow farts.
Humans are not animals who need to be conditioned like the Pavlov dog. Our toolbox has expanded and we can make conscious choices based on intellectual thought, reflection, empirical thought, our intuition and higher guidance. If you ignore this and don't make any personal effort to grow, you remain in a more animalistic existence where you only grow through hurt.
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The idea that duality can be transcended on earth is a cult/religion/ideological teaching that has little to do with what is, but rather what you are meant to know. You are pushing the boundaries of your current teaching path, this is good, however you miss much. I did post to you because I was excited to see that someone is tapped in, I shared what I was going through, I did not seek advice or ask for help. Why did you offer it? I know well and good what is happening, I was somewhat thrilled to see someone else nailing it.

IF you are soular in nature, then you ARE by your very nature dual. I am a NA tribal medicine person, an elder..I've been in the indigenous medicine now for over 30 years, taught by elders from all around the world. That's all I will say on my own behalf. Now, perhaps you can review what you wrote above, and ask yourself who you were really writing it to.

EVERY single time we rip a bandage off an old wound and clean it out, we grow. EVery single time we face a new wound head on, we grow...that is what human conciousness is supposed to be doing here...not basking about in white robes blowing bubble and singing to Shiva...or Jesus...(how absolutely boring) It is when we let things scab over and blow rainbow fairy farts at it...is when the wound festers beneath the surface...and sooner or later, you're going to get an infection. Nope, everything is NOT alright, and that's OK.

You are having a doctrinal difference with someone who has no doctrine, there is only what is, and what is not...the timekeeper holds the wisdom for ALL indigenous peoples on earth, and I can promise you that if you keep working forward, and let yourself be willing to let those things go, you will get another teacher who will give you the opportunity to learn more, as you unlearn some of what you currently "believe". The original medicine was in balance.

NO medicine person worth his or her salt avoids the doctrine shedding rite of passage :) one day you will think..shit, I actually believed that :D I did. Peeling the onion, the layers of self...to the core. How like nature we are.
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Anyone else see the flashing small flecks of golden, rainbow and coloured light? Especially in peripheral vision. Also when your vision is unfocused, the static stuff in the air ..easier to see when it's dark out.


Human health is fragile and it is very easy to fall out of balance. I was eating so clean and well for days and felt great. However i ate some junk today and had a scary dream and sleep paralysis episode. Time to go back to brown rice, steamed veggies and tea ;)


I feel this year is much different, massive energy from last week of december to now and it keeps Unfolding.. Money, jobs, 'security', cars, stuff doesn't matter to me at all anymore.

Seeing people's egos, their mind games, illusions, running around trying to fill their lives with stuff seems so desperate and forced..i feel lots of compassion to them because we've all been there. They look afraid and scared of what's surely coming

Just feel like doing yoga, meditating, writing and sleeping all day lol! Going to work at a meditation center soon, lots of people are interested, and are waking up..times keep getting stranger but its overall positive feelings

Above poster is right, keep peeling the layers back. Haha 'used to believe that' about old beliefs, no kidding!

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Sorry Op, but I strongly disagree with you. People will continue to bury their heads in the sand and hope for the status quo to continue because the thought of failure or a fight, leaves them paralyzed with fear. Corporate psychopath, bullies will continue to rape and pillage. Politicians will continue to turn a blind eye and lie to everyone so long as they become enormously wealthy by doing so.
We are doomed. There's no hope for man. Let's hope that some leader, with his finger on the button, is brave enough to push it and put an end to the long line of bullshit most of us who aren't cruel have had to live with.
Let's face it tho. After the dust settles and if there is anyone left standing, they will be first in line to be the next "ruling elite".
It's sad and never ending. We are fucked either way.
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AND we have another winner :) yes we are fucked, but, thankfully fucked in balance. I'm flying above looking down and seeing what is happening and all I can think is WTF? why are they doing that? WE decide our outcome, what we do is what happens to us. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not know why there is so much fear about being fucked anyway.... I really don't.
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You can decide all you want. Nothing happens if you do not put things in motion. Some things cannot be changed for a reason. Putting up with being fucked is not a productive approach. Acceptance is in order when you realize things cannot change and you need to move through a certain experience. Fear is not a beneficial companion as we discussed previously.
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I'm sorry, you're not understanding. This OP is correct WE (the collective) are fucked. WE as individuals decide..what we do is what happens to us. Please think about this a bit...because DO is a verb, and I used that in my post above which you may have missed because your post was about putting things in motion, which of course is what happens...when you DO. Embrace the fuckedness energy never dissipates, it merely changes form.

Acceptance implies lack of resistance? I accept therefore I do not resist? (yes/no?)...What you resist, persists. This is a universal truth. Fear is useful (makes you run when you need to run hide when you need to hide) it is a response of nature...however living in the fear in the mind..I think that's what you mean, or as my exMIL used to say, borrowing trouble. Remember balance... I do not want a hero who is so fearless he is reckless...I'd prefer a hero with a healthy does of respect for life combined with a can-do mcgyver sort of attitude. Situational acceptance...would be...accept that which you cannot change...change the things I can and have the wisdom to know the difference (St. Frank)...do not resist what IS. McGyver...find a way to work with what IS.
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no dissonance here, wondering about your choice of wording though; see in bold. why not refrain from assigning qualities to energy. it is raw in its pure form and neither good or bad.
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I agree that you don't need to hurt to grow, but emotions are propelling energy that are sometimes needed when people are still very unaware. just like a kid that won't learn until it burns his hand on the stove. One uyou discover your autonomy it is no longer necessary other than differences in opinion that make you think deeper.

Creativity is what TPTB don't have. Creativity doesn't flourish in control freaks. If they destroyed human spirit as they're trying to it would be a very dry and uniform uneventful unexciting world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50245273


This is not true. You do have to hurt to grow, but growing from hurt is a choice. This is not true in nature, it is not true for humans. Without opposition, you have nothing to push against, nothing to teach you what you are...providing you want to learn.

When I give this teaching I usually have the person close their eyes, do some circular breathing, then have them place themselves in a completely white room, everything, including everything about them is white. I have them continue to breath....in that entirely white room. Then I ask them to tell me about themselves. That is always interesting. They cannot tell me about themselves because they cannot experience themselves. Then I ask them to introduce a black dot on the opposing wall and to examine that black dot against the backdrop of white....BOOM. They get it. You cannot experience all of who you are if you only experience a life of rainbow fairy farts, hearts and flowers. I call this the Love Light and Crappiness conundrum.

I believe that what both of you are struggling with is what I refer to as repetition. Where you hurt and heal, the rinse and repeat, over and over and over THE SAME THING...our lady of perpetual hurt..that is the slot car I referred to and one only need look around to see people who have done the same thing in different ways, over, and over, and over. You cannot help those people. Either one day they will recognize or they won't. Mostly they won't.

A good progression would involve getting slammed, wiped, hurt...then getting up assessing your actions, letting it go, and going forward...then getting slammed to the ground again, but this time, something new...and this time you take a look from all angles assess your actions, decide what outcome you want, then act on it. Get up, go forward, fall down...this is the way of growing. It is a fallacy that life should include no pain. Like Thomas Carlyle once said, "Change is painful, but ever needful".

Who the hell wants to experience life in a lily white room? Every ache, every loss, every single thing that has almost killed me has only served to make me stronger...but I chose that. I had to actively choose not to be broken, and not to define my life by the pain....rather an ancient fulcrum comes to mind...yin yang, balance, black and white in balance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69547224


When you dwell in duality you need opposites to experience the world, but duality can be transcended and that has nothing to do with rainbow farts.
Humans are not animals who need to be conditioned like the Pavlov dog. Our toolbox has expanded and we can make conscious choices based on intellectual thought, reflection, empirical thought, our intuition and higher guidance. If you ignore this and don't make any personal effort to grow, you remain in a more animalistic existence where you only grow through hurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50245273


The idea that duality can be transcended on earth is a cult/religion/ideological teaching that has little to do with what is, but rather what you are meant to know. You are pushing the boundaries of your current teaching path, this is good, however you miss much. I did post to you because I was excited to see that someone is tapped in, I shared what I was going through, I did not seek advice or ask for help. Why did you offer it? I know well and good what is happening, I was somewhat thrilled to see someone else nailing it.

IF you are soular in nature, then you ARE by your very nature dual. I am a NA tribal medicine person, an elder..I've been in the indigenous medicine now for over 30 years, taught by elders from all around the world. That's all I will say on my own behalf. Now, perhaps you can review what you wrote above, and ask yourself who you were really writing it to.

EVERY single time we rip a bandage off an old wound and clean it out, we grow. EVery single time we face a new wound head on, we grow...that is what human conciousness is supposed to be doing here...not basking about in white robes blowing bubble and singing to Shiva...or Jesus...(how absolutely boring) It is when we let things scab over and blow rainbow fairy farts at it...is when the wound festers beneath the surface...and sooner or later, you're going to get an infection. Nope, everything is NOT alright, and that's OK.

You are having a doctrinal difference with someone who has no doctrine, there is only what is, and what is not...the timekeeper holds the wisdom for ALL indigenous peoples on earth, and I can promise you that if you keep working forward, and let yourself be willing to let those things go, you will get another teacher who will give you the opportunity to learn more, as you unlearn some of what you currently "believe". The original medicine was in balance.

NO medicine person worth his or her salt avoids the doctrine shedding rite of passage :) one day you will think..shit, I actually believed that :D I did. Peeling the onion, the layers of self...to the core. How like nature we are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69547224


It seems to me that you are the one who jumped in here and started to offer advice as an elder. I responded to your posts but am rather questioning what you say than trying to teach you anything. You already seem to know everything.
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I'm about nine weeks pregnant and considering abortion because I am afraid of the future and what could happen to a baby I bring into this world.


I genuinely do not know what to do.
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There are children coming in who are needed for this shift
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I have a hard time imagining problems for a child born under a different atmosphere of energy. You've prepared it so far. Plus, what if that person-to-be was "waiting in line" for who knows how long JUST TO CHOOSE YOU!
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Anyone else see the flashing small flecks of golden, rainbow and coloured light? Especially in peripheral vision. Also when your vision is unfocused, the static stuff in the air ..easier to see when it's dark out.


Human health is fragile and it is very easy to fall out of balance. I was eating so clean and well for days and felt great. However i ate some junk today and had a scary dream and sleep paralysis episode. Time to go back to brown rice, steamed veggies and tea ;)


I feel this year is much different, massive energy from last week of december to now and it keeps Unfolding.. Money, jobs, 'security', cars, stuff doesn't matter to me at all anymore.

Seeing people's egos, their mind games, illusions, running around trying to fill their lives with stuff seems so desperate and forced..i feel lots of compassion to them because we've all been there. They look afraid and scared of what's surely coming

Just feel like doing yoga, meditating, writing and sleeping all day lol! Going to work at a meditation center soon, lots of people are interested, and are waking up..times keep getting stranger but its overall positive feelings

Above poster is right, keep peeling the layers back. Haha 'used to believe that' about old beliefs, no kidding!
 Quoting: hibodharma


Yes, I started seeing them in doorways first, then learned to focus on a specific plane in front of me. Walls are very easy to see under low light also.

It's very humorous to try to explain why my focus can be hard to tune into things, since I see all sorts of static in the way. Basically another thing that is hard to stop once you can do it. Like playing with your body's energy. Gosh, a few times I couldn't stop my hands from feeling extremely hot for over 24 hrs after meditation/tai chi.

I've also been unseasonably cheerful, since I am a Scrooge when it comes to holidays that have lost their meaning. I almost always start the year off depressed. Last year, I had a few months of good before a crash. This is oddly different. I can't put words to it, which I hope is a good thing!
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This is not true. You do have to hurt to grow, but growing from hurt is a choice. This is not true in nature, it is not true for humans. Without opposition, you have nothing to push against, nothing to teach you what you are...providing you want to learn.

When I give this teaching I usually have the person close their eyes, do some circular breathing, then have them place themselves in a completely white room, everything, including everything about them is white. I have them continue to breath....in that entirely white room. Then I ask them to tell me about themselves. That is always interesting. They cannot tell me about themselves because they cannot experience themselves. Then I ask them to introduce a black dot on the opposing wall and to examine that black dot against the backdrop of white....BOOM. They get it. You cannot experience all of who you are if you only experience a life of rainbow fairy farts, hearts and flowers. I call this the Love Light and Crappiness conundrum.

I believe that what both of you are struggling with is what I refer to as repetition. Where you hurt and heal, the rinse and repeat, over and over and over THE SAME THING...our lady of perpetual hurt..that is the slot car I referred to and one only need look around to see people who have done the same thing in different ways, over, and over, and over. You cannot help those people. Either one day they will recognize or they won't. Mostly they won't.

A good progression would involve getting slammed, wiped, hurt...then getting up assessing your actions, letting it go, and going forward...then getting slammed to the ground again, but this time, something new...and this time you take a look from all angles assess your actions, decide what outcome you want, then act on it. Get up, go forward, fall down...this is the way of growing. It is a fallacy that life should include no pain. Like Thomas Carlyle once said, "Change is painful, but ever needful".

Who the hell wants to experience life in a lily white room? Every ache, every loss, every single thing that has almost killed me has only served to make me stronger...but I chose that. I had to actively choose not to be broken, and not to define my life by the pain....rather an ancient fulcrum comes to mind...yin yang, balance, black and white in balance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69547224


When you dwell in duality you need opposites to experience the world, but duality can be transcended and that has nothing to do with rainbow farts.
Humans are not animals who need to be conditioned like the Pavlov dog. Our toolbox has expanded and we can make conscious choices based on intellectual thought, reflection, empirical thought, our intuition and higher guidance. If you ignore this and don't make any personal effort to grow, you remain in a more animalistic existence where you only grow through hurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50245273




EVERY single time we rip a bandage off an old wound and clean it out, we grow. EVery single time we face a new wound head on, we grow...that is what human conciousness is supposed to be doing here...not basking about in white robes blowing bubble and singing to Shiva...or Jesus...(how absolutely boring) It is when we let things scab over and blow rainbow fairy farts at it...is when the wound festers beneath the surface...and sooner or later, you're going to get an infection. Nope, everything is NOT alright, and that's OK.

You are having a doctrinal difference with someone who has no doctrine, there is only what is, and what is not...the timekeeper holds the wisdom for ALL indigenous peoples on earth, and I can promise you that if you keep working forward, and let yourself be willing to let those things go, you will get another teacher who will give you the opportunity to learn more, as you unlearn some of what you currently "believe". The original medicine was in balance.

NO medicine person worth his or her salt avoids the doctrine shedding rite of passage :) one day you will think..shit, I actually believed that :D I did. Peeling the onion, the layers of self...to the core. How like nature we are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69547224


It seems to me that you are the one who jumped in here and started to offer advice as an elder. I responded to your posts but am rather questioning what you say than trying to teach you anything. You already seem to know everything.
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You see, I RECOGNIZED you...I acknowledged you, I praised you.. and in balance, I also called out the things that are not true. I have offered NO advice, I have given teachings. I have acknowledged the words of others as well. It is up to you to work with that and advance, or not.

The idea that duality can be transcended on earth is a cult/religion/ideological teaching (and I am speaking straightforward, I have little desire or need to massage the PC ego of individual BELIEF sets) that has little to do with what is, but rather what you are meant to know. You are pushing the boundaries of your current teaching path, this is good, however you miss much.... I did post to you because I was excited to see that someone is tapped in, I shared what I was going through, I did not seek advice or ask for help. Why did you offer it? I know well and good what is happening, I was somewhat thrilled to see someone else nailing the symptoms, which to me are way different than normal. I've undergone countless energy shifts and would not be able to work with certain things if I had not, but this one feels different PHYSICALLY.

OH the fairy farts abound :) no worries, it gets better :) .. ENERGY like everything else on this earth (who has her OWN polarity) and around it has a POSITIVE and a NEGATIVE manifestation (we call this POLARITY, you have many polarities in your body, every organ has it's own polarity and masculine/feminine polarities are different)...now, we can have a NEGATIVE manifestation of energy and you know what, it's OK to call it a NEGATIVE manifestation, what IS NOT ok is to STAY there. IT is what it is, until it isn't anymore.

IF you are also soular in nature (and not everyone is), then you ARE dual in that way also.

This Puritan desire to have everything white and shiny, the fear of naming things what they are (Shiver me timbers remembering the rightness of the Puritans..BURN THE WITCH!)...that is dogmatic, doctrinal...it has zero to do with what IS... what IS...is POSITIVE and NEGATIVE, that IS nature. And trust me on this, nothing bad will happen if you say THIS IS FUCKED UP...it gives you an opportunity to change it. Because not much changes with care bear stares :) as you already mentioned we must DO.

It is no "sin" to be sick, it is no "sin" to say you are sick, it is a "sin" to STAY sick. Unfuck yourself. If there were no negatives in life...goodness, pardon my french but WTF are you trying to transcend. If all is rainbowy fairy farty WTF are you trying to ascend to? It's fucked up, it's going to be more fucked up, and it will get better...what fear have you of the fucked up?

We are screwed when we cannot say "THIS IS FUCKED UP and I'm not taking it anymore"....you seem to hold a philosophy that if you don't acknowledge something is fucked then it's ok? This sounds a bit too Angela Merkelish to me...get it? (animals be animaling, lets give them cotton candy and hugs and they won't be animals anymore...right?)

I am a NA tribal medicine person, an elder..I've been in the indigenous medicine now for over 30 years, taught by elders from all around the world. I do nothing for money with the medicine, ever...and I have never paid a dime to anyone to teach me anything. I do not follow individuals or dogma. Traditional way of being called, teachers call you to them. (personal advice, go the first time they call.....it's easier). That's all I will say on my own behalf...and I shouldn't need to say anything, you should have known.

I don't give advice unasked, but I do teach unasked. I'm not gonna sit here and read that shite and say nothing....but that being said, this is the normal progression of learning...and unlearning. However I am careful NOT to teach what I do not KNOW...also, you never teach anyone anything they're not ready to hear it's like telling a kid there is no Santa Claus...

Belief is not the same as knowing. And all I can ever say about what I know is that what I know is nothing compared to what I do not know. We are always in a continual state of learning--if we walk in a good way with our medicine.

Do your book work, learn the science...you will figure it out...jaysus nothing happens in a vacuum, everything is interconnected micro, macro, mezzo...do the science it will help you understand the physical.

Here's a wee hint--...ask your guru if anything they teach can be incorrect..(the right answer is yes, of course..if they tell you no...eek) meaning the means are correct, but the method is wrong.

I was so mad about "wrong direction" like...really mad...Some "arts" teach it wrong, on purpose. This can be proven, but doing so would be pointless because you believe the directions are correct.

You have to know the directions are wrong (to what you're doing) because IT'S NOT WORKING...is it??...and it's not NOT working because it's broken, it's not NOT working because the directions are wrong (wrong teachings..ON PURPOSE). OH, wait...humm, your teachers may not realize the directions are wrong. Watch the Bollywood movie "PK" to visually see this concept in action.

You know how I know when a teaching is right? By how mad it makes me. I once went off on an elder..I was SO seriously pissed because I did not want to believe...I argued and resisted and thankfully this elder was patient...and he just waited...until I came back after EXPERIENCING it and said...oh...ah...sorry :D This has happened more than once, and always, every single time they've been right :( NOOO ego wants to be right, but once you experience something you know it, and you cannot deny what you know...but be ready for what you know to change, once you know it in a different way.

You envision a world of impossibility, a world where nature goes against nature, you devalue her methods, cycles, her ways...nature is both beautiful and ugly. In what possible world can a mouse live without cheese? IN what possible world can a coyote live without deer? UP the chain...you want a beautiful world, and I tell you, a beautiful world is a world in balance, but our nature is to be out of balance and seek balance...even the Mother is becoming out of balance (talk about mezzo level, woah), and the more out of balance she becomes, the more eager she is to give birth. Nature, cycles...

these things individuals experience during this high energy shift is mostly due to the LACK of magnetosphere. I could send you onto the science on that but it will come to you when you are ready to understand it apart from dogmatic teachings which have in turn become your experiences...(again not my first rodeo, I know what I'm talking about) ...it's been documented what happens to humans when they are removed from the effects of the magnetosphere... and when you are ready to understand this, it will be taught you...be ready.

Actually I think it is a rather pleasant thing to have an on board anesthesia machine :)By the time the hard stuff begins, most of us will be literally feeling no pain..I've seen the short experiments, but I cannot begin to imagine what long-term effect of lack of magnetosphere will be...oh, wait...two extremes...rage/happiness...(yin yang) so we can expect people to be manifest either end of that spectrum depending first on their biological/genetic memory/capability to PHYSICALLY and MENTALLY manage not having magnetosphere...this is BIOLOGICAL..and yet it works so well with everything else that is happening. NOTHING happens in a vacuum. Our magnetoshere is very very important...we are traveling or fixing to travel through very soon...the fluff :) yahoo! Go to science, study aluminum, magnetics, and in particular what the magnetosphere of earth does...then perhaps...





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