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I think the Left Behind series was created by Satan to make "pre-tribulation" theory look bad.

Now there are so many teachers preaching against the pre-trib rapture.

The reason:

The rapture will happen and people will be convinced that it was an alien abduction because so many have made fun of the pre-trib rapture. So many teachers preached against the pre-trib rapture.

So it will be easy to say that it was an alien abduction that took all the christians. Look at the series "The Leftovers". They make fun of the rapture even in the face of millions of people disappearing.
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that's because we are near the end of tribulation
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So first the left behing series was created by god to warn everyone and all the christians praised it and sang many hallelujahs over it..and the dickhead who wrote it made fucken billions from it.

And now because the pre trib rap has been proven to be bullshit like the hell doctrine its all of a sudden from satan.

You guys discredit ya fucken selves.

Dont need satan doing it.

He just sits back and laughs his head off at you wankers as ya sink ya own fucken ship.

Dickheads.
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that's because we are near the end of tribulation
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i doubt anyone would call this any kind of tribulation so far
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So first the left behing series was created by god to warn everyone and all the christians praised it and sang many hallelujahs over it..and the dickhead who wrote it made fucken billions from it.

And now because the pre trib rap has been proven to be bullshit like the hell doctrine its all of a sudden from satan.

You guys discredit ya fucken selves.

Dont need satan doing it.

He just sits back and laughs his head off at you wankers as ya sink ya own fucken ship.

Dickheads.
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first of all, it's a theory i've been contemplating

secondly i'm sharing it with you to bounce ideas around

please be nice

John 14:1-3 says that jesus has gone to prepare a place for us somewhere. so i think there is a time we'll be there with him before his return to the mount of olives

the imminent rapture makes more sense so that it would be easy to set up the antichrist kingdom without all the christians protesting him.

there wouldnt be a need for the 2 witnesses if christians were here on earth
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I think the Left Behind series was created by Satan to make "pre-tribulation" theory look bad.

Now there are so many teachers preaching against the pre-trib rapture.

The reason:

The rapture will happen and people will be convinced that it was an alien abduction because so many have made fun of the pre-trib rapture. So many teachers preached against the pre-trib rapture.

So it will be easy to say that it was an alien abduction that took all the christians. Look at the series "The Leftovers". They make fun of the rapture even in the face of millions of people disappearing.
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The pre trib rapture is like a guy without any testicles trying to ejaculate. It just isn't going to happen.

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I think the Left Behind series was created by Satan to make "pre-tribulation" theory look bad.

Now there are so many teachers preaching against the pre-trib rapture.

The reason:

The rapture will happen and people will be convinced that it was an alien abduction because so many have made fun of the pre-trib rapture. So many teachers preached against the pre-trib rapture.

So it will be easy to say that it was an alien abduction that took all the christians. Look at the series "The Leftovers". They make fun of the rapture even in the face of millions of people disappearing.
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The pre trib rapture is like a guy without any testicles trying to ejaculate. It just isn't going to happen.
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I guess that's one way to put it lol.
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Pre-trib rapture is popular with people who can't read.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.” “Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.”


1 Corinthians 15:51-53 “Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.”


These are clearly talking about the same trumpet, and it even tells you which one it is. THE LAST TRUMP, which means the RETURN OF JESUS. There are only 7 trumpets.

Rev 11:15
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
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I think the Left Behind series was created by Satan to make "pre-tribulation" theory look bad.

Now there are so many teachers preaching against the pre-trib rapture.

The reason:

The rapture will happen and people will be convinced that it was an alien abduction because so many have made fun of the pre-trib rapture. So many teachers preached against the pre-trib rapture.

So it will be easy to say that it was an alien abduction that took all the christians. Look at the series "The Leftovers". They make fun of the rapture even in the face of millions of people disappearing.
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The pre trib rapture is like a guy without any testicles trying to ejaculate. It just isn't going to happen.
 Quoting: Osmium76




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… there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming?

—2 Peter 3
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Pre-trib rapture is popular with people who can't read.
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But what's the point of the hope of the rapture if we're really not going anywhere? Why even rapture at all?

I always thought the rapture would be a sign to the unbelievers to turn to Jesus.
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I think the Left Behind series was created by Satan to make "pre-tribulation" theory look bad.

Now there are so many teachers preaching against the pre-trib rapture.

The reason:

The rapture will happen and people will be convinced that it was an alien abduction because so many have made fun of the pre-trib rapture. So many teachers preached against the pre-trib rapture.

So it will be easy to say that it was an alien abduction that took all the christians. Look at the series "The Leftovers". They make fun of the rapture even in the face of millions of people disappearing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71191782


The pre trib rapture is like a guy without any testicles trying to ejaculate. It just isn't going to happen.
 Quoting: Osmium76




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4026177


… there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming?

—2 Peter 3

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For the record, I only "scoff" at illogical impracticalities. I'm In Christ, and couldn't live without Him. A belief in being wisked away to neverland is a peripheral goosechase, even an idol for many, as it makes zero sense to remove the body of Christ from earth the very moment they're finally empowered to do His works and actually be *useful* for a change.

Thread: Job 37/"a cloud of witnesses"
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Pre-trib rapture is popular with people who can't read.
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But what's the point of the hope of the rapture if we're really not going anywhere? Why even rapture at all?

I always thought the rapture would be a sign to the unbelievers to turn to Jesus.
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All it is, is an instant conversion to a spiritual body.

Corruptible changed incorruptible.
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Find the word rapture in the KJV?
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Even pre-trib rapture Christians should realize that really, really bad things can happen before the rapture would occur. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were known as areas with significant Christians populations prior to the nuclear bomb attacks by one of the most "Christian" nations on earth. The people who suffered and died in the world wars were not saved by a rapture. The Christians who suffered and died in the Bolshevik revolution, under Stalin, and under communism in general in Russia were not raptured. The Christians of China are not preserved from persecution. I think you get the idea. Even if a rapture does occur at some time in the future, really, really bad things can happen in the interim.
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Find the word rapture in the KJV?
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find the word bible in the bible

find the word trinity in the bible

the rapture is in the bible as

harpazo in greek … to catch away

rapiemur in latin
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Even pre-trib rapture Christians should realize that really, really bad things can happen before the rapture would occur. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were known as areas with significant Christians populations prior to the nuclear bomb attacks by one of the most "Christian" nations on earth. The people who suffered and died in the world wars were not saved by a rapture. The Christians who suffered and died in the Bolshevik revolution, under Stalin, and under communism in general in Russia were not raptured. The Christians of China are not preserved from persecution. I think you get the idea. Even if a rapture does occur at some time in the future, really, really bad things can happen in the interim.
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true, but i don't think the rapture is for the church. it's a sign to the people on earth that the prophecies were true. there have been millions of christians that already died terrible deaths. the rapture is just a sign to honor Jesus.

also, the 2 preaching witnesses will also be signs for the people
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Find the word rapture in the KJV?
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Speaking of that......

Found out recently that the KING JAMES BIBLE was authored by the same who wrote the book about DEMONOLOGY. Kid you not.

Every Christian (myself included) is reading the "holy grail" of "Bibles" and the GUY who is known as KING JAMES wrote in 1597 a book about WITCHCRAFT.
[link to www.amazon.com]
wtf

To add, the "figure" we all know as "Christ" was stolen from ancient Egypt. The real "Christ" was a guy called HERU. That is how we got the title "hero" from in modern times...with Christ being the "hero" or savior of all people.

It's all a farce. God is not pleased and will not be mocked. Someone PURPOSELY doctored the holy scriptures and reedited classic characters.

None of it is real.
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Find the word rapture in the KJV?
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Speaking of that......

Found out recently that the KING JAMES BIBLE was authored by the same who wrote the book about DEMONOLOGY. Kid you not.

Every Christian (myself included) is reading the "holy grail" of "Bibles" and the GUY who is known as KING JAMES wrote in 1597 a book about WITCHCRAFT.
[link to www.amazon.com]
wtf

To add, the "figure" we all know as "Christ" was stolen from ancient Egypt. The real "Christ" was a guy called HERU. That is how we got the title "hero" from in modern times...with Christ being the "hero" or savior of all people.

It's all a farce. God is not pleased and will not be mocked. Someone PURPOSELY doctored the holy scriptures and reedited classic characters.

None of it is real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68620016


there's a great podcast on the KJV

[link to ahistoryofthekingjamesbiblepodcast.com]
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Even pre-trib rapture Christians should realize that really, really bad things can happen before the rapture would occur. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were known as areas with significant Christians populations prior to the nuclear bomb attacks by one of the most "Christian" nations on earth. The people who suffered and died in the world wars were not saved by a rapture. The Christians who suffered and died in the Bolshevik revolution, under Stalin, and under communism in general in Russia were not raptured. The Christians of China are not preserved from persecution. I think you get the idea. Even if a rapture does occur at some time in the future, really, really bad things can happen in the interim.
 Quoting: Berf Snurple


true, but i don't think the rapture is for the church. it's a sign to the people on earth that the prophecies were true. there have been millions of christians that already died terrible deaths. the rapture is just a sign to honor Jesus.

also, the 2 preaching witnesses will also be signs for the people
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It seems like a better sign for the world would consist of us going around healing the sick & raising the dead en masse as advertised. I really don't think we're gonna get to just skip this part and clock out.
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It seems like a better sign for the world would consist of us going around healing the sick & raising the dead en masse as advertised. I really don't think we're gonna get to just skip this part and clock out.
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Jesus did those things and they stoned him and put him on a cross

I feel it's this year's Yom Teruah 5777, which is October. I'm really excited.

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Find the word rapture in the KJV?
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Speaking of that......

Found out recently that the KING JAMES BIBLE was authored by the same who wrote the book about DEMONOLOGY. Kid you not.

Every Christian (myself included) is reading the "holy grail" of "Bibles" and the GUY who is known as KING JAMES wrote in 1597 a book about WITCHCRAFT.
[link to www.amazon.com]
wtf

To add, the "figure" we all know as "Christ" was stolen from ancient Egypt. The real "Christ" was a guy called HERU. That is how we got the title "hero" from in modern times...with Christ being the "hero" or savior of all people.

It's all a farce. God is not pleased and will not be mocked. Someone PURPOSELY doctored the holy scriptures and reedited classic characters.

None of it is real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68620016


It may have been authorised by him but it wasn't written or translated by him.

It may not be the best translation, but it is certainly a very good one, and a pretty accurate one.

To add, Christ was not stolen from anywhere, was a historic figure, did exactly as prophesied, and is coming back soon. Your belief is wrong, and a classic example of people believing nonsensical falsehood because having to accept the truth places a responsibility on them they aren't ready to handle.
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The tribulation is our individual lives when we try and purge our sins. When we die we are raptures to Heaven if we overcame our sinfulness or at least if we have showed our will to follow Jesus and believe in Him. The problem for us is that the Devil tries and prevent us from trusting fully on Jesus so that He will take the sins away. This is the tribulation for us.

In the End of time, there is God's Wrath concerning the fallen Church to be Judged. May be the remnant living believers are taken out or at least hidden somewhere until His wrath is over with.
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Im not a Christian, but I would consider rapture exegesis at all to be tenuous at best.
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So first the left behing series was created by god to warn everyone and all the christians praised it and sang many hallelujahs over it..and the dickhead who wrote it made fucken billions from it.

And now because the pre trib rap has been proven to be bullshit like the hell doctrine its all of a sudden from satan.

You guys discredit ya fucken selves.

Dont need satan doing it.

He just sits back and laughs his head off at you wankers as ya sink ya own fucken ship.

Dickheads.
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You discredit yourself thinking one billion people are one person lol.
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Oh there will be a rapture alright... A removal of the wicked tares from the earth so the righteous can inherit the earth

You go ahead and go in the rapture, I'll be right here
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there wouldnt be a need for the 2 witnesses if christians were here on earth
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God knocking..

""And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits""
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Thread: For Christians: The scriptural basis for the pre-tribulational Rapture

Locked due to trolls and socks who were sent to keep the facts on some back page of the forum. Wonder why? No other rapture view is so hated by Christians and anti-Christians alike. It's just a viewpoint and nobody's trying to force others to believe it, so why the hate? Because it's true!

The Rapture is simply that Jesus will remove his people before the wrath of God is sent on the earth. It has nothing to do with avoiding suffering, or being super righteous, or being asked to board a space ship. Jesus promised that the church would not suffer the wrath of God; that's it.





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