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Obama vetoes legislation repealing Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood

 
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Obama vetoes legislation repealing Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood
President Barack Obama has vetoed legislation that would have repealed much of Obamacare and defunded Planned Parenthood. It is the first time the president has used his power of veto to defend his signature healthcare legislation.
"This legislation would not only repeal parts of the Affordable Care Act, but would reverse the significant progress we have made in improving health care in America," Obama wrote members of the House in a letter.

Earlier on Wednesday, the House of Representatives passed the legislation and sent it to the president’s desk. The measure passed by a vote of 240 to 181,

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Don't know if this been covered here, ignore if it has.
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can a vete be made null by congress?
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can a vete be made null by congress?
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A veto can be overridden by congress, but this one can't
because they don't have the necessary votes.
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Did you know, even if you're unemployed you are still required to purchase obummercare. Or get fined if you don't.

Oh, and the repubs knew that this would fail. It was just another show to try and validate them being there.
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can a vete be made null by congress?
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A veto can be overridden by congress, but this one can't
because they don't have the necessary votes.
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yep, no surprise about the veto.
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Did you know, even if you're unemployed you are still required to purchase obummercare. Or get fined if you don't.

Oh, and the repubs knew that this would fail. It was just another show to try and validate them being there.
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With elections coming this fall, RINO's are under pressure to pretend to be conservative for a bit.
Predictable as Swiss clockwork.

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It's ok. When Trump is the President, he will undo all that turd, Obammy has done with his OWN executive orders.
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I think its high time we throw all of congress in jail and keep them there until they have all been interrogated and inspected in detail then the bad ones we throw in jail and the good ones can just get fired and made to work like anyone else then banned from any type of politics. Then we can fill the roles with people who work everyday, ohh and take away mass amounts of money they make......down to normal mid class wages
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Re: Obama vetoes legislation repealing Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood
can a vete be made null by congress?
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A veto can be overridden by congress, but this one can't
because they don't have the necessary votes.
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Who are those bound to Obama to continue screwing all Americans?

Why it's the Democrats this turn around. Republicans are up next in the conga line coming up on you from behind.
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Ryan says there is an over ride veto on the vote this month. Is it a sham? I think it is.
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It's not a "sham".

This is exactly how the government is supposed to work.

Congress has been unwilling to push legislation through just to have Obama veto it... I suppose to protect him and the left wing of the Republican Party who seem interested more in obamas agenda than the conservative agenda.

That was because Boehner was a weak SOB.

They should be pushing bills through even if they know Obama will veto them.

By now, if they were doing they're job right, Obama should have been the most prolific vetoing president in history.

Congress needs two thirds of the votes to over ride a veto.
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Did you know, even if you're unemployed you are still required to purchase obummercare. Or get fined if you don't.

Oh, and the repubs knew that this would fail. It was just another show to try and validate them being there.
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And the fine per person in 2016 is substantial
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It's not a "sham".

This is exactly how the government is supposed to work.

Congress has been unwilling to push legislation through just to have Obama veto it... I suppose to protect him and the left wing of the Republican Party who seem interested more in obamas agenda than the conservative agenda.

That was because Boehner was a weak SOB.

They should be pushing bills through even if they know Obama will veto them.

By now, if they were doing they're job right, Obama should have been the most prolific vetoing president in history.

Congress needs two thirds of the votes to over ride a veto.
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And that's why you'll never see one party with 67% of Congress. The President must have all the power, as it's easier for the blackmailers to do control one guy instead of 300+ reps.
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It's not a "sham".

This is exactly how the government is supposed to work.

Congress has been unwilling to push legislation through just to have Obama veto it... I suppose to protect him and the left wing of the Republican Party who seem interested more in obamas agenda than the conservative agenda.

That was because Boehner was a weak SOB.

They should be pushing bills through even if they know Obama will veto them.

By now, if they were doing they're job right, Obama should have been the most prolific vetoing president in history.

Congress needs two thirds of the votes to over ride a veto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64445653


I don't know anything at all about American politics, but surely giving one man a veto, President or not, is appalling. Even the Queen of England doesn't do this.
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Re: Obama vetoes legislation repealing Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood
It's not a "sham".

This is exactly how the government is supposed to work.

Congress has been unwilling to push legislation through just to have Obama veto it... I suppose to protect him and the left wing of the Republican Party who seem interested more in obamas agenda than the conservative agenda.

That was because Boehner was a weak SOB.

They should be pushing bills through even if they know Obama will veto them.

By now, if they were doing they're job right, Obama should have been the most prolific vetoing president in history.

Congress needs two thirds of the votes to over ride a veto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64445653


Tie up all of congress sending bill after bill to Obama even though he'll veto all of them. At least congress isn't on other bills raising taxes, chipping away at more freedoms and unlawful spending not set forth by the Constitution.

Tie up all of congress until January 20, 2017. Run the clock out. Can't use the excuse it's a do-nothing congress. It's a government shutdown without being THE government shutdown the MSM hammer conservatives over.
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I don't know anything at all about American politics, but surely giving one man a veto, President or not, is appalling. Even the Queen of England doesn't do this.
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The (ancient) idea is that the body of the country through their representatives is in power AS AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY regardless of the president.

Where that fails is when a large enough group of snakes conspire to void the will of a simple majority when they know it takes a super majority to stop a veto. No one of ancient time ever thought so many men and women representatives could have no morals, no (true communion with) God, and shear contempted for the oath they swore to uphold upon taking office. Snakes.
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If Congress really wanted to work for the people they would remove obama from office.
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I don't know anything at all about American politics, but surely giving one man a veto, President or not, is appalling. Even the Queen of England doesn't do this.
 Quoting: Tess.


The (ancient) idea is that the body of the country through their representatives is in power AS AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY regardless of the president.

Where that fails is when a large enough group of snakes conspire to void the will of a simple majority when they know it takes a super majority to stop a veto. No one of ancient time ever thought so many men and women representatives could have no morals, no (true communion with) God, and shear contempted for the oath they swore to uphold upon taking office. Snakes.
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Exactly right.

The US government set up to have three EQUAL branches of government with none more important or powerful than another.

Congress writes and enacts law and if they were truly interested in their own power they would not constantly acquiesce to the Executive Branch but fight to UPHOLD The Constitution and the WILL of the people that they are elected to represent.

Past Congressional bodies have used they're power to override vetoes.

During Obama it seems Congress has been worried more about being called racist than about the backlash coming from those who voted for them.
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[link to history.house.gov]

Check the link above to see how many times in history vetoes were overridden by Congress.
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I don't get it. So much needs to be done by Congress, but over the last 7 years this is all they do? And everyone knows they will get a veto but they keep wasting everyone's time and money. The country needs our congress working for the country. Doing nothing for so long, we are lucky we are not in worse shape. But they got to go to work or we could go down with the rest of the world very soon.
But what I've heard, they are planning on repealing Obamacare at least 3 more times before we get another President. We should fire Congress. They aren't worth shit!!
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can a vete be made null by congress?
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yea...but it wont happen. Congress doesn't actually mean what it says and simply did this to add "votes" to say they were for or against something.
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Actually, this is the first time in years that Congress IS actually doing shit.

Their job is to send bills to the Pesidents desk even if they may suffer a veto.

The RINOs have made that difficult because they are nothing but right wing Democrats using the Republican Party name to uphold the Presidents agenda rather than working to abide by the will of the people.

That was Boehners legacy.

This is a step in the right direction.
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Actually, this is the first time in years that Congress IS actually doing shit.

Their job is to send bills to the Pesidents desk even if they may suffer a veto.

The RINOs have made that difficult because they are nothing but right wing Democrats using the Republican Party name to uphold the Presidents agenda rather than working to abide by the will of the people.

That was Boehners legacy.

This is a step in the right direction.
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Yes, after all this time they did pass a budget.. woopie!! Took them all of 15 min to print it out for a vote, as it was written long ago, not much time or thought went into it, but it was a budget, they didn't do a good one, better than nothing though.
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Well at least one good thing came out of it.

Also, obamacare sucks, unless you have to go to the hospital form what I understand.

So let me ask, if obamacare gets repealed, what happens to all the people that had their coveraged dropped because of obamacare? Do they get it back? What happens to all the people that got busted from 40hrs a week to 29.5 hours a week? Will they get their hours back? HUGE FAILURE. Of course, the system before was a huge failure also and only getting worse. Fk ins companies and for profit health care.
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Well at least one good thing came out of it.

Also, obamacare sucks, unless you have to go to the hospital form what I understand.

So let me ask, if obamacare gets repealed, what happens to all the people that had their coveraged dropped because of obamacare? Do they get it back? What happens to all the people that got busted from 40hrs a week to 29.5 hours a week? Will they get their hours back? HUGE FAILURE. Of course, the system before was a huge failure also and only getting worse. Fk ins companies and for profit health care.
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you must get your news off yourtube, radio or fox. Other wise you would know the truth and not be lost in the lie's. huge failure for republicans because they didn't do it, the dems did....just hold on as history will tell you if you listen john brown...
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I bet he doesn't even read what he signs.
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They pass a symbolic bill to repeal they know will get vetoed AFTER they already voted to fund it for another year.

Ya gotta like how they threw in the Planned Parenthood on top to get street cred with the religious folk.

These ass-wipes (the Republicans) are just screwing with us.
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This bill never had a chance to get signed by Obama. Everyone knew this. This bill was more about being a warning shot and putting Obama on the record for supporting two things that most don't like. It's putting Obama's legacy on the record... on the hook. Liable.

It also shows that if a GOPer gets in, his precious ACA is done, almost immediately.
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can a vete be made null by congress?
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i think it can but needs a 3/4 majority vote...
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It's not a "sham".

This is exactly how the government is supposed to work.

Congress has been unwilling to push legislation through just to have Obama veto it... I suppose to protect him and the left wing of the Republican Party who seem interested more in obamas agenda than the conservative agenda.

That was because Boehner was a weak SOB.

They should be pushing bills through even if they know Obama will veto them.

By now, if they were doing they're job right, Obama should have been the most prolific vetoing president in history.

Congress needs two thirds of the votes to over ride a veto.
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Please explain exactly what is accomplished by sending hundreds of bills to Obama to veto knowing his veto cannot be overridden?

Wouldn't a better use of our elected representatives time be to work together with the opposing party to find areas of compromise to actually pass legislation which could help improve our country instead of playing partisan games to try and one up your political opponent? Pathetic!


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