If you have studied ancient religions and the esoteric and desire to become enlightened, you must know that they were all vegans!

Not really....wasn't much of a choice...meat was a treat once upon a time....

Then why uses Jesus as one of your enlightened examples?

You can't be that enlightened because you didn't answer my question and instead interpreted my honest question as hostility!

Is there any scientific evidence that can show the frequency similarities between the earth/vegetables and grains?

Surely a plant would have a set frequency, what about a tomato grown in soil and a tomato grown in hydroponic conditions like aeroponics with seaweed extract making it vegan all the way.

See I am very aware of frequency and life force and also hydroponics so I am curious to see of you have any answers regarding these intertwined subjects?

Jesus was a gnostic.

Hey OP, look behind you!


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<drags off OP to big pot.

Meat's back on the menu!!..this one is a little peckish and probably little muscle mass.

I already said that was not enlightened. Read my posts. But, I am trying to be.

exactly this.

So proud to be a beast. Sad really.

I have studied ancient religion, amongst other things.Know what I found out? That I and any other human..should eat what their body is craving at that time.Modern doctors and all, will shove pills in you, HAPPILY.Advice given by unhealthy people, is given easily.Reading online you can choose all these different directions to go..I will not.I am not.I eat what the hell my body needs.And guess what? I have eaten nothing but vegetables for a month almost.Because my body desired that.I can not study anything anymore.I need to study myself.And I am enlightened.Very much, deeply deeply..so.

The human desires many things:

sex
meat
drugs
booze
porn
hate
greed
violence

That does not mean that those things are good for us.

The path to enlightenment is all about discipline. Obviously you can't see that.

Jesus ate fish. He would not have served fish if he himself did not eat fish.

Muslim Sufis are not vegetarians. It is recommend.ended to all Muslims to eat beef every forty days, and to drink milk, so it is NOT recommended to be a vegetarian or vegan and it is forbidden to state that there is spiritual superiority in abstaining from meat or milk. Sufis in general are not abstemious. They work. They marry. They eat. They live life. It is not necessary to starve the body to feed the spirit.

India is full of spiritual seekers and while some Indians are vegetarian, most consume milk. My understanding is that none would tell you a vegan diet is better for your health or necessary for your spiritual growth or enlightenment. The vast majority of the great gurus ate dairy.

Be careful if you remain vegan for very long, that you find plant sources of iron, that you combine grains and pulses to provide the three limiting amino acids, and that you supplement vitamin B12. My belief is that synthetic B12 is not good enough. If I were to become vegan out of love for animals or religious attainment, I think I would continue to consume some animal protein regularly.

Your body has rights over you. You do not ha e the right to starve it. We have evolved eating meat and drinking g dairy. No traditional culture has ever been entirely vegan or even vegetarian. That has always been the luxury of those who can take time away from work and life's duties to meditate in retreat.

You are obsessed with sex and porn.Maybe drugs and booze too.You will not be enlightened. You may get arrested though.Eat some meat, you might feel better.

You can starve to death, eating rabbit every day.Imagine that.

Obviously, I HAVE seen past that.And what you desire, or think humans desire, is not the truth for many.I think you should dwell upon the 8 things you suggested, and just GO AWAY.

And there you confirmed you are a liar.

John 21:5 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
{6} "And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.
{7} Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher’s coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea.
{8} And the other disciples came in a little ship; (for they were not far from land, but as it were two hundred cubits,) dragging the net with fishes.
{9} As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
{10} Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
{11} Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.
{12} Jesus saith unto them, Come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask him, Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord."


what you are spreading OP is the doctrines of devils:
(1 Timothy 4:1-5) "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; {2} Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
{3} Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
{4} For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
{5} For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."

Bingo. This is the folly of preaching enlightenment of the spirit and then turning around and saying said enlightenment is achieved through fleshly, physical means.

For all intents and purposes....

Now a more vegetable-based diet for optimal health? Absolutely.

Wrong.

Thoth mentions nothing about abstaining from meat; only that one must fast at regular intervals.

Certain blood types will become sick from malnutrition without meat.

Veganism is a psychosis.

For sure! I personally prefer to eat less meat...my body runs better on veggies and I'm not ashamed to admit that there is a part of me that regrets that creatures need to eat others to survive...at least at this point in history.

Some others...like some of my family...don't fare so well without daily meat. We're all different in that respect.

What about the evil vegetarians

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William Blake and Rudolf Stiener come to mind. I don't know about vegan but vegetarian...yes.

I have read when an animal is killed in fear it gives off some nasty hormones that we humans ingest. This would not apply to those animals that are not farmed. Kosher killing is particularly bad. There are some places like Alaska where veganism is impossible.

Thread: I'm enlightened. This might be your only chance to speak to a living enlightened buddha!

This man eats meat if he is given meat. Otherwise he won't eat meat yes, but if he is given meat, he will eat it.

Enlightened people eat what is given to them. Had YOU studied Enlightenment you would know this.

There's 300 million vegetarians on Earth. 300 MILLION.

Replace every single man, woman, and child in the USA, and that's how many vegetarians there are walking around on Earth.

There's no nutritional or health reasons that vegetarians are worse off than their meat eating counterparts.

For hunters back in the stone age, meat was a "treat" not the daily bread?

"How to provide good and plentiful food is, therefore, a most important question of the day. On the general principles the raising of cattle as a means of providing food is objectionable, because, in the sense interpreted above, it must undoubtedly tend to the addition of mass of a "smaller velocity." It is certainly preferable to raise vegetables, and I think, therefore, that vegetarianism is a commendable departure from the established barbarous habit. That we can subsist on plant food and perform our work even to advantage is not a theory, but a well-demonstrated fact. Many races living almost exclusively on vegetables are of superior physique and strength. There is no doubt that some plant food, such as oatmeal, is more economical than meat, and superior to it in regard to both mechanical and mental performance. Such food, moreover, taxes our digestive organs decidedly less, and, in making us more contented and sociable, produces an amount of good difficult to estimate. In view of these facts every effort should be made to stop the wanton and cruel slaughter of animals, which must be destructive to our morals. To free ourselves from animal instincts and appetites, which keep us down, we should begin at the very root from which we spring: we should effect a radical reform in the character of the food."

Tesla

I'm thinking it is possible to prove because, fruits and vegetables have more vitamins and minerals than meat? When we 'digest' food it is turned into 'energy' so that it may be absorbed through the cells of the entire body.* The more vitamins, minerals, etc., the more 'energy'. The higher the 'frequency'.

I'm not sure what meat has other than protein and a few amino acids/minerals, fish has dha.

Otherwise comparing a steak to a bowl of salad as far as vitamins and minerals is key in figuring out the answer of frequency.


I've always heard that the better the growing conditions, the better the energy.

*Fascinating when compared to the ideas of vitamins lugging through intestines, through the blood etc. Energetically absorbed is a more accurate description.

The American Indians were very enlightened and they were not vegans.