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The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57381920 United States01/11/2016 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Well im glad someone liked it. I put some thought into this thread :/ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31310212 Here's another thought: perhaps the ancients had much longer lifespans than we do now. Like over 1,000 years. From their perspective, a wood home would have to be rebuilt ten to twenty times over a lifetime. That gets real old, quick. It would be like you rebuilding your home every five to ten years. Stone? Build it once and you pass it on to your children. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31310212 United States01/11/2016 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Well im glad someone liked it. I put some thought into this thread :/ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31310212 Here's another thought: perhaps the ancients had much longer lifespans than we do now. Like over 1,000 years. From their perspective, a wood home would have to be rebuilt ten to twenty times over a lifetime. That gets real old, quick. It would be like you rebuilding your home every five to ten years. Stone? Build it once and you pass it on to your children. Interesting thought the only problem is there isnt enough stone buildings left around for that to have been a common practice within a populous, perhaps global society as widespread as our own today. |
| Wellwhatnow User ID: 71218409  New Zealand01/11/2016 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm My perspective is they used stone because stones resonate,most pple think theyre dead lumps of nothing, quite the contrary,they have alot of life, if i could get my hands on a peice of pyramid stone, i bet you it would humm a rather interesting tune. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31310212 United States01/11/2016 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm maybe the 'ancients' built with all types and its just the stone that is left now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71220715 Maybe but from the structures that are left it doesnt appear they were made for habitation or that they used stone often or primarily for habitation. They seem like they were made specifically as a warning for the future or a shrine of the past for the future and of course to do that one would have to use stone. Theres just a handful of these sites dotted around the globe. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71181596 United Kingdom01/11/2016 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Exactly. Why massively over engineer a building out of solid prefabricated 85 ton stone blocks precision engineered with interlocking bevels, holes and extrusions quarried 6.5 and 56 miles away and drag them up a steep mountain to put them into place. Advanced civilization tried to build some kind of bunker! And were afraid probably of a giant tusnami. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71181596 United Kingdom01/11/2016 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm oh yea and tell me this 1500 year old block from puma punku is not MACHINE TOOLED> [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31310212 United States01/11/2016 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Exactly. Why massively over engineer a building out of solid prefabricated 85 ton stone blocks precision engineered with interlocking bevels, holes and extrusions quarried 6.5 and 56 miles away and drag them up a steep mountain to put them into place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71181596 Advanced civilization tried to build some kind of bunker! And were afraid probably of a giant tusnami. Exactly, i just think its ridiculous to think these people did all of this with camel hair ropes, sticks and mules and purely for some decorative/religious motivation. I think these things were created with advanced technology and for a great futuristic purpose and contain a lot of wisdom. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31310212 United States01/11/2016 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm oh yea and tell me this 1500 year old block from puma punku is not MACHINE TOOLED> Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71181596 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] looks laser cut |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71220715 United Kingdom01/11/2016 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Exactly. Why massively over engineer a building out of solid prefabricated 85 ton stone blocks precision engineered with interlocking bevels, holes and extrusions quarried 6.5 and 56 miles away and drag them up a steep mountain to put them into place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71181596 Advanced civilization tried to build some kind of bunker! And were afraid probably of a giant tusnami. Exactly, i just think its ridiculous to think these people did all of this with camel hair ropes, sticks and mules and purely for some decorative/religious motivation. I think these things were created with advanced technology and for a great futuristic purpose and contain a lot of wisdom. seriously, people are unaware that granite and the limestone that was used in ancient times wasn't cast? we have don't countless tests on the rock and its without a doubt cast stone. there was no dragging anything. they use the river to transport the crushed limestone directly in the waters. they then used wood planks to form a mould and poured the limestone in, added some caustic soda and you have solid rock. granite is easier, you just grind it up and mould it and it sets on its own. how do people not know this by now? [link to www.geopolymer.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71220715 United Kingdom01/11/2016 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm those rocks from Bolivia are casting stones, as in they are the moulds for casting lead and copper and gold in. that's why each one is different. each one was used for a different task or shape of metal. more interestingly what were they making out of it (in metal) |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31310212 United States01/11/2016 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Exactly. Why massively over engineer a building out of solid prefabricated 85 ton stone blocks precision engineered with interlocking bevels, holes and extrusions quarried 6.5 and 56 miles away and drag them up a steep mountain to put them into place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71181596 Advanced civilization tried to build some kind of bunker! And were afraid probably of a giant tusnami. Exactly, i just think its ridiculous to think these people did all of this with camel hair ropes, sticks and mules and purely for some decorative/religious motivation. I think these things were created with advanced technology and for a great futuristic purpose and contain a lot of wisdom. seriously, people are unaware that granite and the limestone that was used in ancient times wasn't cast? we have don't countless tests on the rock and its without a doubt cast stone. there was no dragging anything. they use the river to transport the crushed limestone directly in the waters. they then used wood planks to form a mould and poured the limestone in, added some caustic soda and you have solid rock. granite is easier, you just grind it up and mould it and it sets on its own. how do people not know this by now? [link to www.geopolymer.org] Maybe thats true for the specific case youre talking about, however there are definitely many others which massive massive cut and quarried stones were dragged tens and tens of miles and up mountains and assembled with incredible precision and you want us to believe it was all done with camel hair ropes and sticks by ignorant primitive people who just came down from the trees. Sorry im not buying it. Many of these things cannot even be replicated today. |
| SteamrolledGobias User ID: 67238830 United States01/11/2016 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm It's perfectly cut into a very specific shape, yet appears to be abandoned. Nobody seems to know who made it, what its purpose is, or how long its been there. Curiouser and curiouser |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71220715 United Kingdom01/11/2016 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Exactly. Why massively over engineer a building out of solid prefabricated 85 ton stone blocks precision engineered with interlocking bevels, holes and extrusions quarried 6.5 and 56 miles away and drag them up a steep mountain to put them into place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71181596 Advanced civilization tried to build some kind of bunker! And were afraid probably of a giant tusnami. Exactly, i just think its ridiculous to think these people did all of this with camel hair ropes, sticks and mules and purely for some decorative/religious motivation. I think these things were created with advanced technology and for a great futuristic purpose and contain a lot of wisdom. seriously, people are unaware that granite and the limestone that was used in ancient times wasn't cast? we have don't countless tests on the rock and its without a doubt cast stone. there was no dragging anything. they use the river to transport the crushed limestone directly in the waters. they then used wood planks to form a mould and poured the limestone in, added some caustic soda and you have solid rock. granite is easier, you just grind it up and mould it and it sets on its own. how do people not know this by now? [link to www.geopolymer.org] Maybe thats true for the specific case youre talking about, however there are definitely many others which massive massive cut and quarried stones were dragged tens and tens of miles and up mountains and assembled with incredible precision and you want us to believe it was all done with camel hair ropes and sticks by ignorant primitive people who just came down from the trees. Sorry im not buying it. Many of these things cannot even be replicated today. all the stones are cast. if something couldn't have been done the way you describe today it couldn't be done the same way then. if you cast one block next to the other block sharing one side of the block as the mould casing you would have exactly the precision you are talking about. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71220715 United Kingdom01/11/2016 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm btw granite take a long time to set and so do other rock types without adding the catalyst caustic soda. you could spend weeks carrying one bucket of the liquid rock paste at a time up the mountain and pouring it into the mould. no magic 1200 tone crane or alien spaceship needed. |
| darkwolf007 User ID: 69195067 United States01/11/2016 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm Exactly. Why massively over engineer a building out of solid prefabricated 85 ton stone blocks precision engineered with interlocking bevels, holes and extrusions quarried 6.5 and 56 miles away and drag them up a steep mountain to put them into place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71181596 Advanced civilization tried to build some kind of bunker! And were afraid probably of a giant tusnami. That is one of MANY questions about the ancient civilizations that aren't ever publicly addressed either. There are some stone structures out there that are purely that. As in they use perfect geometry to balance the stones so they can be easily swung open or otherwise pivoted on their axis with a mere push of one's hand. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31310212 United States01/11/2016 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31310212 Exactly, i just think its ridiculous to think these people did all of this with camel hair ropes, sticks and mules and purely for some decorative/religious motivation. I think these things were created with advanced technology and for a great futuristic purpose and contain a lot of wisdom. seriously, people are unaware that granite and the limestone that was used in ancient times wasn't cast? we have don't countless tests on the rock and its without a doubt cast stone. there was no dragging anything. they use the river to transport the crushed limestone directly in the waters. they then used wood planks to form a mould and poured the limestone in, added some caustic soda and you have solid rock. granite is easier, you just grind it up and mould it and it sets on its own. how do people not know this by now? [link to www.geopolymer.org] Maybe thats true for the specific case youre talking about, however there are definitely many others which massive massive cut and quarried stones were dragged tens and tens of miles and up mountains and assembled with incredible precision and you want us to believe it was all done with camel hair ropes and sticks by ignorant primitive people who just came down from the trees. Sorry im not buying it. Many of these things cannot even be replicated today. all the stones are cast. if something couldn't have been done the way you describe today it couldn't be done the same way then. if you cast one block next to the other block sharing one side of the block as the mould casing you would have exactly the precision you are talking about. What you say just isnt true. Youre claiming every megalitihic ancient stone was cast. Are you deliberately lying or just extremely ignorant? And your second statement is based off mainstream assumption about who these people were following the rigid singular progression of humanity which is a fallacy. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71035119 United States01/11/2016 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm I always thought Machu Pichu was built to survive a flood, high up in the mountains. That is why it was abandoned, the waters receded and people could go back down the mountain... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49359302 United States01/11/2016 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm oh yea and tell me this 1500 year old block from puma punku is not MACHINE TOOLED> Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71181596 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] It's not machine tooled. From your link: Some of the stones are in an unfinished state, showing some of the techniques used to shape them. They were initially pounded by stone hammers—which can still be found in numbers on local andesite quarries—, creating depressions, and then slowly ground and polished with flat stones and sand. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71220715 United Kingdom01/11/2016 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The ancients used stone not because they were primitive but because they knew it was the only thing that would survive the cataclysm ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71220715 seriously, people are unaware that granite and the limestone that was used in ancient times wasn't cast? we have don't countless tests on the rock and its without a doubt cast stone. there was no dragging anything. they use the river to transport the crushed limestone directly in the waters. they then used wood planks to form a mould and poured the limestone in, added some caustic soda and you have solid rock. granite is easier, you just grind it up and mould it and it sets on its own. how do people not know this by now? [link to www.geopolymer.org] Maybe thats true for the specific case youre talking about, however there are definitely many others which massive massive cut and quarried stones were dragged tens and tens of miles and up mountains and assembled with incredible precision and you want us to believe it was all done with camel hair ropes and sticks by ignorant primitive people who just came down from the trees. Sorry im not buying it. Many of these things cannot even be replicated today. all the stones are cast. if something couldn't have been done the way you describe today it couldn't be done the same way then. if you cast one block next to the other block sharing one side of the block as the mould casing you would have exactly the precision you are talking about. What you say just isnt true. Youre claiming every megalitihic ancient stone was cast. Are you deliberately lying or just extremely ignorant? And your second statement is based off mainstream assumption about who these people were following the rigid singular progression of humanity which is a fallacy. I believe these pre date the Egyptians. |
