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Putin" Don't squeeze North Korea"....Breaking on BBC

 
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'Don't squeeze N Korea' - Putin

President Putin's popularity ratings remain high
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said North Korea should not be driven into a corner if the world wants to rein in its nuclear weapons programme.
He said some negotiators "failed to find the right tone" with the country.

He was speaking in a live TV phone-in with Russians nationwide, broadcast on TV and radio.

He said he would not try to run for office again when his term ends in 2008, but said he would try to continue to influence political affairs.

On North Korea, Mr Putin said a solution could be found "with goodwill".

Even in losing the job that I like, I hope I will manage to retain the essential thing - your trust



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The regular US schoolbully tactics are backfiring against them with North Korea.

It wont work
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the neo-cons have such provoking language and very Bellicose.

no wonder they hot mostly middle finger responses.

kinda the language of a spoiled brat!!!
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A U.S.-led preemptive and punitive strike would endanger Russia’s border with Korea and adversely affect Russia’s hopes of economically benefiting from any improved situation between the North and the South and a more benign security environment of northeast Asia.

That is all Putin is worried about.
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The Russians are really proving to be a great nation.
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The Russians are really proving to be a great nation.
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And really good at arms exporting.What business opportunity i see here.
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Best thing that ever came out of russia was vodka and the ak47
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and hot mail order wives!
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are they really hot mail order brides, or kgb plants,... something to think about.
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In 1984 a book was published with the title New Lies for Old. It was written by Soviet KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn. The book claimed that the Soviet Union had a secret long-term strategy to disarm and defeat the United States through a controlled collapse of the Soviet empire that would take place in the last decade of the twentieth century. In the book's most remarkable chapter, titled "The Final Phase," Golitsyn accurately described the future of the Soviet bloc. Communism would give up its monopoly of power in Russia, he explained, as apparent freedom and democracy would be introduced. The communist Warsaw Pact alliance would be dissolved. The Berlin Wall might be taken down and Germany united as "the key to progress toward a neutral, socialist Europe."

Controlled democratization and liberalization would be facilitated by communist agents within the dissident movements of Eastern Europe. As Golitsyn wrote, "the liberalization would be calculated and deceptive in that it would be introduced from above. It would be carried out by the party through its cells and individual members in government, the Supreme Soviet, the courts, and the electoral machinery and by the KGB through its agents among the intellectuals and scientists." (p. 339-340.)

Golitsyn's book has been dismissed as nonsense by CIA experts, pundits and journalists. "Yet of Golitsyn's falsifiable predictions, 139 out of 148 were fulfilled by the end of 1993 -- an accuracy rate of nearly 94 percent," according to Mark Riebling's history of the FBI and CIA titled Wedge.

The correctness of Golitsyn's predictions have also been shown by researchers and journalists reporting on events in Eastern Europe. These include the stunning revelations of Andrei Codrescu about the 1989 Romanian Revolution, in his book The Hole in the Flag, as well as revelations by Polish author Darius Rohnka in his book Fatalna Fikcja ("The Fatal Fiction") and the works of Czech activist Petr Cibulka.

We also have the personal analysis of two GRU defectors. The famous spy and author, Viktor Rezun (a.k.a. Viktor Suvorov), told Christopher Story of Soviet Analyst that the collapse of the Soviet Union was undoubtedly a deception. When asked how Western intelligence could fail to see this deception, Rezun answered, "Because they are stupid." At the same time, GRU defector Stanislav Lunev has also suggested that the collapse of the Soviet Union must have been part of a strategic plan, although he says the plan went awry and led to the unintended derailment of Marxism-Leninism in the former bloc countries. However, he admits, this is no obstacle to Kremlin strategy, since Moscow's communist era objectives remain unchanged with KGB officer Vladimir Putin at the helm.

Evidence of a long range Soviet strategy of controlled democratization and fake collapse for the purpose of disarming the West also appears in the writings of the high level Czech defector Jan Sejna. In his 1982 book, We Will Bury You, Sejna wrote of a plan to “convince the Capitalist countries that they had no need of military alliances.” He added that, “To this end we envisaged that it might be necessary to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, in which event we had already prepared a web of bilateral defence arrangements, to be supervised by secret committees of Comecon.”

The evidence for strategic deception is rich and verifiable. It is not material invented by kooks, but solidly based in reality. Americans do not realize the extent to which the Chechen wars were Kremlin-inspired provocations, openly alluded to by Russia’s ranking Chechen official, Mufti Kadyrov. They do not realize the suspicious backgrounds of leading Chechen Muslims, or the fact that al Qaeda’s Number Two man spent several months in Russia only to be released under mysterious circumstances. Could it be a coincidence that terrorism expert Yossef Bodansky alleges that bin Laden’s acquired nuclear weapons via Chechnya, from Russian sources?

The pieces of the puzzle are in front of our eyes. But Americans will not believe their eyes. No matter how carefully the evidence is laid out, the public and American officials reject the idea of an ongoing Soviet deception strategy to bring America to its knees.

A few months before the attack on the World Trade Center, Fidel Castro visited Iran. He said that working together, they could bring down the United States. It is significant that Russia and China are now allied, and engage in regular joint military exercises. It is significant that communist dictators are emerging in Venezuela, Ecuador and Brazil. It is also significant that Europe is slipping into “socialist neutrality.”

The danger is very great. But Americans will not believe in this danger because we feel superior. We feel invulnerable. Why should anyone conspire to destroy America? The answer is simple. The answer is that inferior nation-states, like inferior persons, sometimes hate those who are superior.

Julien Benda once wrote: “Our age is the age of the intellectual organization of political hatreds.” Now ask yourself who the organizers of political hatred are, and which nations have been targeted? Today, the central targets of organized political hatred are Israel and the United States.

First you hate, then you dehumanize, then you kill. That is the formula for mass destruction warfare. You don’t begin a war by nuking enemy cities. You begin by organizing hatred against target populations. You dehumanize your target. When you have united a large enough mass behind you, and they are eager for blood, then you can unleash your weapons of mass destruction. The world will stand up and cheer, and you will be its new master.

Hatred is a powerful unifying force. In his book, “The True Believer,” Eric Hoffer wrote: “hatred is not always directed against those who wronged us.” In fact, it is often directed at the good, the superior and the fortunate. Seeing that someone is superior to ourselves, we sometimes think ill of our abilities and prospects. “Self contempt produces in man the most unjust and criminal passions,” wrote Hoffer, who explained that hatred is often “an expression of a desperate effort to suppress an awareness of our inadequacy, worthlessness, guilt and other shortcomings of the self.”

If we look at the world around us, at the Arab world, the Chinese and the Russians, we find national inferiority complexes at work. And these help to explain the war preparations of Russia and China, and their justification by officials like Gen. Chi Haotian of China’s Communist Party Central Military Commission, who said in 1999: “War [with American imperialism] is inevitable. We cannot avoid it.” He also explained, “We must be prepared to fight for one year, two years, or even longer.”

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Just don't squeeze the Charmin!

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To Putin:


stfu
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Your thoughts Brethren????
 Quoting: Contre tout espoir


Here's a link to CNN article on the same topic:

[link to www.cnn.com]
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The Russians are really proving to be a great nation.


And really good at arms exporting.What business opportunity i see here.
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In 1984 a book was published with the title New Lies for Old. It was written by Soviet KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn. The book claimed that the Soviet Union had a secret long-term strategy to disarm and defeat the United States through a controlled collapse of the Soviet empire that would take place in the last decade of the twentieth century. In the book's most remarkable . . .

[link to thefinalphaseforum.invisionzone.com]
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Did our innermost circles discount this Golitsyn tale? Maybe, but things have changed. Radical Islam threw in a wild card, or we would have probably disarmed and been prey for Golitsyn's chronicle. We have war and rumors of war surrounding us now, and we are now fighting and arming for them.
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so the ruschkies allowed
Illigal nuke prolif


stfu
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so the ruschkies allowed
Illigal nuke prolif


stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69844185


Who let Israel get the bomb?
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so the ruschkies allowed
Illigal nuke prolif


stfu
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Who let Israel get the bomb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75554558



I guess by extension of USA privileges
Or as insurance to secure ME oil
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'Don't squeeze N Korea' - Putin

President Putin's popularity ratings remain high
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said North Korea should not be driven into a corner if the world wants to rein in its nuclear weapons programme.
He said some negotiators "failed to find the right tone" with the country.

He was speaking in a live TV phone-in with Russians nationwide, broadcast on TV and radio.

He said he would not try to run for office again when his term ends in 2008, but said he would try to continue to influence political affairs.

On North Korea, Mr Putin said a solution could be found "with goodwill".

Even in losing the job that I like, I hope I will manage to retain the essential thing - your trust


 Quoting: Contre tout espoir


Old article 2008? Much has happened.
Putin is in now?
Weird..
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so the ruschkies allowed
Illigal nuke prolif


stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69844185


Who let Israel get the bomb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75554558



I guess by extension of USA privileges
Or as insurance to secure ME oil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69844185


Either way.

Not much we can say about Russia giving nukes away, is there.
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Either way.

Not much we can say about Russia giving nukes away, is there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75554558


Except NK just announced war
Using nukes

Substantial difference





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