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Message Subject Lucifer thinks of himself as the 'Shepherd of Man' (and other stuff nobody told me)
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Partially, yes.
 Quoting: Teq44


That book is full of nonsense, no offense. Lucifer fell because he was "Baal" Jezebel worshipped, From Baal and Hadad being separate, Lucifer/Satan. He was ghost fucking her. God traditionally has two wives, neither left him. Michael is not God, Lucifer is not his older brother. Sorry, just had to correct that.
 Quoting: Mike, Mike, Mike


Ah that's okay. The Urantia book only presents a certain perspective. And yes, all of the characters are aspects of Source. And there are so many - it just depends on your perspective. By big brother, really it is that the Lucifer energy was here before Michael - as in the old gods were here before YHVH. But really, they are all metaphors for the same program being presented over and over again. The father of Michael and Lucifer - father is Anu - same as Enlil and Enki of the Annunaki. And Jesus is also Horus and the Sun/Son. Gabriel is Hermes is Thoth.

But honestly, it doesn't matter who is who lol. It is our goal to overcome all of the mishmash hooplah and understand that WE too are fragments of source here to experience and grow. Here on Earth we overcome MIND. We are gifted an ego by Gaia and Lucifer actually so we may experience through mind, but the goal is to merge this mind/ego consciousness with our soul to gain this knowledge so we do not need to come back again. Until we do this, Karma assures we stay. We did not come here to experience Karma. We came here to experience darkness and density, and we cannot leave BECAUSE of the system of Karma, until we have done all we can do and merged this knowledge.
 Quoting: Teq44


To my knowledge, Lucifer was created after Michael, Jesus is Osiris, and Thoth is Death. I know what you mean when you say it doesn't matter, but I know who some if these characters are incarnated as so I see a difference. I know how reincarnation happens, but if I died I would expect to sleep.
 Quoting: Mike, Mike, Mike


Well they might be here now in some way shape or form, but really they are pretty large energies, so I'd assume that only a piece could fit into a body. In order to best impact things here though, an incarnation is the best way. The body is an anchor.

As for reincarnation, the system is really changing now. There are a lot of new beings here - high level spirits - who have not been here before, and the system of Karma-based reincarnation is becoming obsolete since the Earth school is changing. If you were to die now, you would get what you expect at first. So if you expected to sleep, then you would, but then you would move on to your next job/role or whatever so you can continue your path.

Not sure if you've ever heard of this man - but he's pretty interesting. His name is Guy Steven Needler. He describes what Source is -and I feel it's quite accurate.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Anyhoo - I'm signing off to get the kiddo to bed (I'm a mom lol)

Have a good night :-)
 
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