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Thought Experiment about Spacetime

 
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Imagine running around in a circle faster than the speed of light.

You would eventually "overlap" your old self.

You then adjust the speed you're running at to the speed of light.

Now you are running beside an older version of yourself.

Since you've been there done that, you know what you thought at that moment in time, it already happened after all, you were there.

Is the guy you see trying to catch up to you, which he will eventually just not on this timeline, already you?`

He has not seen himself yet, how could he, he is slower than the speed it took for the information of him being there to actually come into reality.

It's a mindfuck really.

Are you two yet?
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Now the information of him being there, is actually the future version of yourself.

Who counted?
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Similar to watching a movie of yourself that was made an hour ago. As long as you can't interfere with that earlier you then everything's OK.
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I think you cannot be both, a subject and a witness to the experiment at the same time.
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I think you cannot be both, a subject and a witness to the experiment at the same time.
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Then why can I imagine it?
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By the time you got fast enough to overrun your old self, your old self would not exist anymore...plus you would be at infinite mass. You wouldn't want your old self to see you that fat.
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I think you cannot be both, a subject and a witness to the experiment at the same time.
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You are observing light, your mass is still the same mass regardless.

I just looked in the mirror. I was a witness and the experiment.
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Great, so we are not light. Thanks for verifying that.

Cheers.
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I think you cannot be both, a subject and a witness to the experiment at the same time.
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Then why can I imagine it?
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Most of its time the mind is not logical. Logical thinking has to be learnt again.
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I think you cannot be both, a subject and a witness to the experiment at the same time.
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You are observing light, your mass is still the same mass regardless.

I just looked in the mirror. I was a witness and the experiment.
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Sorry, but you are not your mirroring.
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The seperation which is a frame is expanding.
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I think you cannot be both, a subject and a witness to the experiment at the same time.
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Then why can I imagine it?
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Most of its time the mind is not logical. Logical thinking has to be learnt again.
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Logical thinking is boring and predictable xD
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Re: Thought Experiment about Spacetime
Imagine running around in a circle faster than the speed of light.

You would eventually "overlap" your old self.

You then adjust the speed you're running at to the speed of light.

Now you are running beside an older version of yourself.

Since you've been there done that, you know what you thought at that moment in time, it already happened after all, you were there.

Is the guy you see trying to catch up to you, which he will eventually just not on this timeline, already you?`

He has not seen himself yet, how could he, he is slower than the speed it took for the information of him being there to actually come into reality.

It's a mindfuck really.

Are you two yet?
 Quoting: BHZP


Interesting, but doesnt time slow down if you go faster than the speed of light? So wouldnt it take a very long time to catch up?
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I think you cannot be both, a subject and a witness to the experiment at the same time.
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Then why can I imagine it?
 Quoting: BHZP


Most of its time the mind is not logical. Logical thinking has to be learnt again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51888362


Logical thinking is boring and predictable xD
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Again, very few can think strict logically. So no, it is not borring at all.
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Doesnt work that way.

Time remains the same to you in your reference frame and you cant have two reference frames.

Just becuase you can imagine it does not make it possible. I can imagine knowing a particle's position and momentum simultaneously, but that is not possible! (Uncertianty Principle)
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That's the mindfuck. It is not time trying to catch up. It is a seperation of timelines into two parallel realities after you go past the ability to apply thought to the information which is presented to our brains via our senses.

The timelines won't ever fuse, for once the older you is starting to speed up to get to your timeline "lap/round" he will simply create an older version of himself which he will then visit.

I think, oh gawd, my brain just melted. Gotta go have a fag.
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Keep thinking, you're creating the underlying foundation of time/space travel. It's through the mind.
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There's a TV show, based on a comic book, called The Flash. You would enjoy it.
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After reaching the speed of light, matter flips from Space-Time into Time-Space. Now space is linear and time is 3D. Imagine with this in mind and maybe the separation won't matter.
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Also, this is relevant to the OP


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Re: Thought Experiment about Spacetime
After reaching the speed of light, matter flips from Space-Time into Time-Space. Now space is linear and time is 3D. Imagine with this in mind and maybe the separation won't matter.
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Ye, you can quite literally browse it. Done it by accidant once, took me forever to find the breaks.

Going to watch those vids now, thanks for posting them!

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After reaching the speed of light, matter flips from Space-Time into Time-Space. Now space is linear and time is 3D. Imagine with this in mind and maybe the separation won't matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21977808


Ye, you can quite literally browse it. Done it by accidant once, took me forever to find the breaks.

Going to watch those vids now, thanks for posting them!
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You went faster than the speed of light once?
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After reaching the speed of light, matter flips from Space-Time into Time-Space. Now space is linear and time is 3D. Imagine with this in mind and maybe the separation won't matter.
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Ye, you can quite literally browse it. Done it by accidant once, took me forever to find the breaks.

Going to watch those vids now, thanks for posting them!
 Quoting: BHZP


You went faster than the speed of light once?
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I imagined it, then I got stuck for like forever until I found out how to imagine slowing down.
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That's the mindfuck. It is not time trying to catch up. It is a seperation of timelines into two parallel realities after you go past the ability to apply thought to the information which is presented to our brains via our senses.

The timelines won't ever fuse, for once the older you is starting to speed up to get to your timeline "lap/round" he will simply create an older version of himself which he will then visit.

I think, oh gawd, my brain just melted. Gotta go have a fag.
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just like souls method :D
nice thoughts there

abduct
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Re: Thought Experiment about Spacetime
Imagine running around in a circle faster than the speed of light.

You would eventually "overlap" your old self.

You then adjust the speed you're running at to the speed of light.

Now you are running beside an older version of yourself.

Since you've been there done that, you know what you thought at that moment in time, it already happened after all, you were there.

Is the guy you see trying to catch up to you, which he will eventually just not on this timeline, already you?`

He has not seen himself yet, how could he, he is slower than the speed it took for the information of him being there to actually come into reality.

It's a mindfuck really.

Are you two yet?
 Quoting: BHZP


Why does it takes physical motions to be beyond the way points of light? Isn't that's a paradox?
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Re: Thought Experiment about Spacetime
Imagine running around in a circle faster than the speed of light.

You would eventually "overlap" your old self.

You then adjust the speed you're running at to the speed of light.

Now you are running beside an older version of yourself.

Since you've been there done that, you know what you thought at that moment in time, it already happened after all, you were there.

Is the guy you see trying to catch up to you, which he will eventually just not on this timeline, already you?`

He has not seen himself yet, how could he, he is slower than the speed it took for the information of him being there to actually come into reality.

It's a mindfuck really.

Are you two yet?
 Quoting: BHZP



Ummm. No. Thats ridiculous. You aren't there anymore. You pass your starting point, not yourself.
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Re: Thought Experiment about Spacetime
Imagine running around in a circle faster than the speed of light.

You would eventually "overlap" your old self.

You then adjust the speed you're running at to the speed of light.

Now you are running beside an older version of yourself.

Since you've been there done that, you know what you thought at that moment in time, it already happened after all, you were there.

Is the guy you see trying to catch up to you, which he will eventually just not on this timeline, already you?`

He has not seen himself yet, how could he, he is slower than the speed it took for the information of him being there to actually come into reality.

It's a mindfuck really.

Are you two yet?
 Quoting: BHZP


2?

Im already 9!

4 Pillars and 5 spheres.

Hurry up old me, im ready to take flight ;)
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so this is how you travel xD
thanks.





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