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I like him. He almost makes physics understandable for me. Lol
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i get the impression that nassim is emotionally experiencing what he says for reason that he has not said
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I like him. He almost makes physics understandable for me. Lol
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i get the impression that nassim is emotionally experiencing what he says for reason that he has not said
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I think you're right.
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It would seem nowhere is safe.
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I like him. He almost makes physics understandable for me. Lol
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i get the impression that nassim is emotionally experiencing what he says for reason that he has not said
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I think you're right.
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It would seem nowhere is safe.
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I like him. He almost makes physics understandable for me. Lol
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i get the impression that nassim is emotionally experiencing what he says for reason that he has not said
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I think you're right.
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That was really interesting. I still need to do some reading on Marco Rodin, that definitely piqued my interest.
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I don't really understand the current mainstream physics and mathematics, so I have had to start from scratch using my imagination and learning from different sources.

My learning style is relatively non-linear, sometimes I pick up and re-arrange confusing subjects into their causal relationships. That is precisely why I worked on the General Causality Theory as first in order to start understanding physics and etc in my own way and hopefully help other people to do the same thing. Progressively.
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That seems a good way to go about it. Most of what I do understand is understood intuitively, not through standard learning.
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The Voyager probes have demonstrated the existence of the heliopause ('membrane boundary'), but obviously the comparison breaks down in that the heliospheric membrane does not consist of a 'solid' barrier of carefully and precisely assembled proteins that cells have. What mechanisms of electromagnetohydrodynamics permit the controlled passage of plasma-charge in both directions through the sun's overarching plasmasheath, so that the sun itself experiences polarity reversal every 11.7 years?

I would say the organic study needs to go further: what is the intracellular relationship of charge potential between the nucleus and the membrane? How does the nucleus of a neuron change in polarity when its membrane exhibits 'rest', that is, changes its charge potential in context to the environment outside the cell's membrane?
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Kinda timely.

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something that crosses my mind whenever i see worm holes expressed the membrane/walls of the worm hole are shown rotating

are we being told of awareness of vortical physics

no matter if we are or not, to utilize the ability to travel distance over time without inertia instantly requires the pilot/crew to "die" (de-form) whilst retaining personality/function in transit transit via the "worm hole" then resurrect (re-form) upon destination
although this is a conscious experiences and does not entail the actual de-form/re-form of the body or ship, i wonder how many of us have revived our memories or have been shown enough to enable remembering how to retain memory/personality in "death" in order transverse the material universe via the non material dimension within it
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bearing in mind that entering the scalar/electrostatic dimension of undivided time and experiencing motion/events/emotion whilst within it, an observer within our light speed material dimension would see you and your ship "disappear" for approx 2 seconds light speed time before re appearance at andromeda but the crews accumulated experience of motions/events/emotions, using light speed time as a reference, may be many hours, even days or months dependent on what happened upon their journey

a femtosecond is to a second, what a second is to about 31.7 million years.

carl sagan shows us in the book/movie contact

She learns that from all external vantage points, she and the pod merely dropped through the machine. She insists that she was gone for approximately 18 hours, but her recording devices only show static
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SOUL is the spiritual (immaterial) part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal. The soul leaves the physical body at the moment of death.



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Vacuum is space devoid of matter. The word stems from the Latin adjective vacuus for "vacant" or "void".
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Materialism is a form of philosophical monism that holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental states and consciousness, are results of material interactions. According to philosophical materialism, mind and consciousness are by-products or epiphenomena of material processes (such as the biochemistry of the human brain and nervous system), without which they cannot exist. This concept directly contrasts with idealism, where mind and consciousness are first-order realities to which matter is subject and material interactions are secondary.
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A non-contact force is a force which acts on an object without coming physically in contact with it. The most familiar example of a non-contact force is gravity, which confers weight.
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What's an ordinary clock? Springs, Weights, SunDials, Atoms?

Time is irrelevant anyway. After all, if we can assume the Now is real, then the time it is here, is the same time every where. Right Now, it may be 3PM Earth UTC, and if I was on Pluto right now, it would also be exactly 3PM Earth UTC.

And if, by whatever method, I traveled from Pluto to Earth, in 10 minutes. It would then be 3:10 on Earth, 3:10 on Pluto, and I spent 10 minutes telling you about it.
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That was really good.
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A lot of interesting stuff this morning. :)
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i noticed something today
my measurements of failure are mostly matching other peoples measurements of success
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i noticed something today
my measurements of failure are mostly matching other peoples measurements of success
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In all things, or in terms of personal success?
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i noticed something today
my measurements of failure are mostly matching other peoples measurements of success
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In all things, or in terms of personal success?
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my memory causes me consciously experiencing myself successful experiencing reality meaning felt by me is as far as i have gotten with the thought
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i noticed something today
my measurements of failure are mostly matching other peoples measurements of success
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In all things, or in terms of personal success?
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my memory causes me consciously experiencing myself successful experiencing reality meaning felt by me is as far as i have gotten with the thought
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Okay. Do you see it as differing ideas about what success is - different goals, higher/lower expectations of self or outcome, or the ability/inability to achieve success?
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i noticed something today
my measurements of failure are mostly matching other peoples measurements of success
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In all things, or in terms of personal success?
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my memory causes me consciously experiencing myself successful experiencing reality meaning felt by me is as far as i have gotten with the thought
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Okay. Do you see it as differing ideas about what success is - different goals, higher/lower expectations of self or outcome, or the ability/inability to achieve success?
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i don't know yet cos today is my first experience of the thought
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In all things, or in terms of personal success?
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my memory causes me consciously experiencing myself successful experiencing reality meaning felt by me is as far as i have gotten with the thought
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Okay. Do you see it as differing ideas about what success is - different goals, higher/lower expectations of self or outcome, or the ability/inability to achieve success?
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i don't know yet cos today is my first experience of the thought
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I understand. :)
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my memory causes me consciously experiencing myself successful experiencing reality meaning felt by me is as far as i have gotten with the thought
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Okay. Do you see it as differing ideas about what success is - different goals, higher/lower expectations of self or outcome, or the ability/inability to achieve success?
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i don't know yet cos today is my first experience of the thought
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I understand. :)
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I'll be interested to know what you find as you explore it more. It's an interesting observation of self.
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i instantly noticed the emotional values of my matter shape that is the same shape as me before i was 3 prompting the dog god wepeawet to talk to me quickly

Today we look up at the stars and wonder if we’re alone in the universe. In fantasy and science fiction, we wonder what it might be like to meet other intelligent species, like us, but not us. It’s profoundly sad to think that we once did, and now, because of it, they’re gone.
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my attraction to being me being matter is and was caused by the visible impression upon matter that causes the shaping of gaias landscapes
i like the experiences the shaping upon gaia causes
the history of gaias architecture is not a history of modern man design or construction
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i just did its this /z\ causing my thought
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i instantly noticed the emotional values of my matter shape that is the same shape as me before i was 3 prompting the dog god wepeawet to talk to me quickly

Today we look up at the stars and wonder if we’re alone in the universe. In fantasy and science fiction, we wonder what it might be like to meet other intelligent species, like us, but not us. It’s profoundly sad to think that we once did, and now, because of it, they’re gone.
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my attraction to being me being matter is and was caused by the visible impression upon matter that causes the shaping of gaias landscapes
i like the experiences the shaping upon gaia causes
the history of gaias architecture is not a history of modern man design or construction
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i just did its this /z\ causing my thought
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What value are you measuring? I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with that, for some reason.
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What value are you measuring? I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with that, for some reason.
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im measuring the impression upon matter caused by not me that causes me to be emotionally comfortable as if it is me that caused the impression in matter that impresses me

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Another nice one.
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What value are you measuring? I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with that, for some reason.
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im measuring the impression upon matter caused by not me that causes me to be emotionally comfortable as if it is me that caused the impression in matter that impresses me
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So would you say your view of success or failure, at least in this case, would be based on the emotional satisfaction of the experience?
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What value are you measuring? I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with that, for some reason.
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im measuring the impression upon matter caused by not me that causes me to be emotionally comfortable as if it is me that caused the impression in matter that impresses me
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So would you say your view of success or failure, at least in this case, would be based on the emotional satisfaction of the experience?
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yes
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What value are you measuring? I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with that, for some reason.
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im measuring the impression upon matter caused by not me that causes me to be emotionally comfortable as if it is me that caused the impression in matter that impresses me
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So would you say your view of success or failure, at least in this case, would be based on the emotional satisfaction of the experience?
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yes
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That makes it easier to see how there could be opposing views, going back to you saying you see success where others see failure - or vice-versa. Differing levels of emotional satisfaction gained from the same experience.

I would think it would also go back to what the expectation of the experience was and the emotional value attached to the expectation.
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