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i noticed something today
my measurements of failure are mostly matching other peoples measurements of success
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im measuring the impression upon matter caused by not me that causes me to be emotionally comfortable as if it is me that caused the impression in matter that impresses me
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So would you say your view of success or failure, at least in this case, would be based on the emotional satisfaction of the experience?
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yes
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That makes it easier to see how there could be opposing views, going back to you saying you see success where others see failure - or vice-versa. Differing levels of emotional satisfaction gained from the same experience.

I would think it would also go back to what the expectation of the experience was and the emotional value attached to the expectation.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


The experience itself may hold more value to one party, while the outcome is of more importance to another. It would seem that if the value lies in the experience, it would be easier to be satisfied with the outcome because there is little emotional attachment to it. Whereas if the outcome holds the emotional value and is not emotionally satisfying, the entire experience could be felt as a failure - tainted emotionally by an unsatisfactory outcome.

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when we change the word surface into the word membrane we alter the structure and function of our meanings including the reflection philosophy of materialism autocracy
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Now why do they think the sun is going to move into a less active cycle? I can’t remember. What were the reasons NASA reversed course on this next sun cycle? I mean who is leading who here? Is the sun following the earth’s lead? Can this fire-ice be the element that binds?
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they being nasa and our authorities do not know :

quote of the day:

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Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 460)
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the sun is not it`s own master it is structured to function as per the energy/information it receives from both the aether and the every 11 to 13 years immersion within a birkland current (solar max health check)

our heliosphere is the cell membrane acting as our own body cell membrane, governing the interior of our cells environment by translating the energy/information coming at the cell membrane from outside of it

our solar system is immersed in "fluffy (denser plama/magnetic field/cloud) thus denser plasma (charge) is entering our heliosphere altering our solar environment , the consequences of increased charge and our sun adjusts accordingly

ultimate authority of the function of our sun is the plasmoid at center of our galaxy
it governs all other plasmods/stars (suns) within it`s domain (galaxy) via the same process (aether/birkland currents)

our galaxy center plasmoid derives it`s motive from it`s interaction with the infinite other plasmoids (galaxy centers) of our universe (music of the spheres)
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I think of the solar wind as the return flows of extra, or unconsumed, or restructured, plasma back out to the heliopause.
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That makes it easier to see how there could be opposing views, going back to you saying you see success where others see failure - or vice-versa. Differing levels of emotional satisfaction gained from the same experience.

I would think it would also go back to what the expectation of the experience was and the emotional value attached to the expectation.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


The experience itself may hold more value to one party, while the outcome is of more importance to another. It would seem that if the value lies in the experience, it would be easier to be satisfied with the outcome because there is little emotional attachment to it. Whereas if the outcome holds the emotional value and is not emotionally satisfying, the entire experience could be felt as a failure - tainted emotionally by an unsatisfactory outcome.
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That makes it easier to see how there could be opposing views, going back to you saying you see success where others see failure - or vice-versa. Differing levels of emotional satisfaction gained from the same experience.

I would think it would also go back to what the expectation of the experience was and the emotional value attached to the expectation.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


The experience itself may hold more value to one party, while the outcome is of more importance to another. It would seem that if the value lies in the experience, it would be easier to be satisfied with the outcome because there is little emotional attachment to it. Whereas if the outcome holds the emotional value and is not emotionally satisfying, the entire experience could be felt as a failure - tainted emotionally by an unsatisfactory outcome.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


yes
 Quoting: aether


A few thoughts come to mind. One is that when using emotional values, measurement of success or failure will always be subjective. We use our own emotional value of a thing as a constant, but it is a variable from person to person.

It also brought to mind the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism, as well as Shakespeare's "Expectation is the root of all heartache."

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That makes it easier to see how there could be opposing views, going back to you saying you see success where others see failure - or vice-versa. Differing levels of emotional satisfaction gained from the same experience.

I would think it would also go back to what the expectation of the experience was and the emotional value attached to the expectation.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


The experience itself may hold more value to one party, while the outcome is of more importance to another. It would seem that if the value lies in the experience, it would be easier to be satisfied with the outcome because there is little emotional attachment to it. Whereas if the outcome holds the emotional value and is not emotionally satisfying, the entire experience could be felt as a failure - tainted emotionally by an unsatisfactory outcome.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


yes
 Quoting: aether


A few thoughts come to mind. One is that when using emotional values, measurement of success or failure will always be subjective. We use our own emotional value of a thing as a constant, but it is a variable from person to person.

It also brought to mind the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism, as well as Shakespeare's "Expectation is the root of all heartache."
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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What happens when you have expectation without communication?
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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What happens when you have expectation without communication?
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Yes. I had some thoughts on this earlier, but it took me down a path that might not have been the best for this particular conversation, if you understand what I mean.
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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It's a peculiar human quirk that we brand our more depressing perceptions as 'realistic', whilst any form of optimism is considered to be 'tempting fate' and raising our hopes in order to let us down. But hope isn't a dodgy salesman. It's a reputable force with genuine power.
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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It's a peculiar human quirk that we brand our more depressing perceptions as 'realistic', whilst any form of optimism is considered to be 'tempting fate' and raising our hopes in order to let us down. But hope isn't a dodgy salesman. It's a reputable force with genuine power.
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:)
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But hope isn't a dodgy salesman. It's a reputable force with genuine power.
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Yes.

But also a 'power' tool too often used with the end game of dominating and subjugating others.

Granted - there will always be ready and willing kneelers strung out on the Hopium du jour™ by genetic default - but knowing why they are engineered to kneel takes all meaningful sport out of that game.

:)

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But hope isn't a dodgy salesman. It's a reputable force with genuine power.
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Yes.

But also a 'power' tool too often used with the end game of dominating and subjugating others.

Granted - there will always be ready and willing kneelers strung out on the Hopium du jour™ by genetic default - but knowing why they are engineered to kneel takes all meaningful sport out of that game.

:)
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sounds like current nfl rebellion
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But hope isn't a dodgy salesman. It's a reputable force with genuine power.
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Yes.

But also a 'power' tool too often used with the end game of dominating and subjugating others.

Granted - there will always be ready and willing kneelers strung out on the Hopium du jour™ by genetic default - but knowing why they are engineered to kneel takes all meaningful sport out of that game.

:)
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But hope isn't a dodgy salesman. It's a reputable force with genuine power.
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Yes.

But also a 'power' tool too often used with the end game of dominating and subjugating others.

Granted - there will always be ready and willing kneelers strung out on the Hopium du jour™ by genetic default - but knowing why they are engineered to kneel takes all meaningful sport out of that game.

:)
 Quoting: SyncAsFunk



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divine right of kings

The divine right of kings, divine right, or God's mandate is a political and religious doctrine of royal and political legitimacy. The particular claim of "divine right" stems from a specific metaphysical framework in which the king is pre-selected prior to their birth (as in an heir); by pre-selecting the king's physical manifestation, the governed populace actively (rather than merely passively) hands the metaphysical selection of the king's soul - who will inhabit said body and thereby rule them - over to God.
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there is a method to our madness

One must begin with one, and that one has no particular qualities. Therefore, so long as you have an authority properly centralized it does not really matter what that authority is. In the Pope we have such an authority ready made, and it is the gravest tactical blunder to endeavour to set up an authority opposed to him. Success in doing so means war, and failure anarchy.
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every social structure within every culture is constructed the same way thus the visible alteration of the environment that the central unit of all structures function within is a pre requisite

this has now occurred of
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there is a method to our madness

One must begin with one, and that one has no particular qualities. Therefore, so long as you have an authority properly centralized it does not really matter what that authority is. In the Pope we have such an authority ready made, and it is the gravest tactical blunder to endeavour to set up an authority opposed to him. Success in doing so means war, and failure anarchy.
 Quoting: structure


every social structure within every culture is constructed the same way thus the visible alteration of the environment that the central unit of all structures function within is a pre requisite

this has now occurred of
 Quoting: aether

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So... In your view, it's war or anarchy? Or both?
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divine right of kings


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Ah, the old reliable 'Chain of Being' construct.

Or, in more recent parlance, 'The Carrot and the Stick'.

Hope™ our way or else.

Yeah that played great (for a 'select' few) over the last earth/sun age, but, alas, we're at a new event horizon.

I highly doubt the current clapped out epochal grimoires will be nearly as effective this next go 'round, despite all efforts to wipe the memory banks clean once again to keep the loosh farm charging at peak efficiency.

There seems to be a new energy in town -

and PEOPLE are catching on

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there is a method to our madness

One must begin with one, and that one has no particular qualities. Therefore, so long as you have an authority properly centralized it does not really matter what that authority is. In the Pope we have such an authority ready made, and it is the gravest tactical blunder to endeavour to set up an authority opposed to him. Success in doing so means war, and failure anarchy.
 Quoting: structure


every social structure within every culture is constructed the same way thus the visible alteration of the environment that the central unit of all structures function within is a pre requisite

this has now occurred of
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


So... In your view, it's war or anarchy? Or both?
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in my view all social structure upon gaia is transient by the nature of its design within our time of environmental energy being measurable stronger than it was within previous aeons of our memory upon which all society is based upon

There is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment.
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our environment alters the shape of our thought visibly causing noticably different social structure globally within our near future
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divine right of kings


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Ah, the old reliable 'Chain of Being' construct.

Or, in more recent parlance, 'The Carrot and the Stick'.

Hope™ our way or else.

Yeah that played great (for a 'select' few) over the last earth/sun age, but, alas, we're at a new event horizon.

I highly doubt the current clapped out epochal grimoires will be nearly as effective this next go 'round, despite all efforts to wipe the memory banks clean once again to keep the loosh farm charging at peak efficiency.

There seems to be a new energy in town -

and PEOPLE are catching on

:)
 Quoting: SyncAsFunk


yes
origin of kingship

The great themes of world mythology are universal: the story of a former age of gods and wonders, whose first chapter was a “perfect” time of peace and plenty; the story of an exemplary "king of the world," the mythic first in the line of kings; descriptions of the gods as luminaries of immense size and power, wielding weapons of thunder and stone; the universal claim that the ancient world evolved by critical phases or cycles, punctuated by sweeping catastrophe; global traditions of gods and heroes ruling for a time, then departing amidst terrifying spectacles and upheavals. The transfiguration of the departed gods into "stars"; the identification of these ruling gods with planets in the first astronomies.

Even prior to the birth of the great civilizations, humans around the world drew remarkably similar pictures of things never seen in our sky. The “sun’ they carved on stone does not look the Sun in our sky. In the birthplace of astronomy we see a crescent placed on ancient images of the “sun,” and a radiant "star" placed squarely in its center. Neither our moon nor any star can be reconciled with such patterns, many of which are global.

What was the cosmic mountain celebrated around the world, called a pillar of fire and light rising along the world axis? And what was the radiant city or temple of heaven, remembered as the prototype for sacred space on earth?

To such collective memories must be added that of a star-goddess with long-flowing locks, a goddess revered as "the giver of life"; the transformation of this goddess into an ogress raging across the sky with wildly disheveled hair; a fiery serpent or dragon attacking the world; an ancestral warrior or hero, born from the womb of the star-goddess to free the world from chaos monsters.
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Now we have new (to us) knowledge we can ask questions of the Gods. This is the journey and the task, to request the Gods confirmation that our knowledge is sound/safe.
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feels like a big day looming tomorrow more than i notice usual


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Also I seen something trending tonight on Twitter called BlackoutWednesday... apparently some kind of lowiq fad to go get drunk the night before Thankagiving and black out?
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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I think they are, in a sense, the same thing.

"Hope for the best, but expect the worst."

Looks to me like a sliding scale of a reaction to the same unknown - the future.
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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I think they are, in a sense, the same thing.

"Hope for the best, but expect the worst."

Looks to me like a sliding scale of a reaction to the same unknown - the future.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


Hope for the best and plan for the worst, but expect nothing.
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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I think they are, in a sense, the same thing.

"Hope for the best, but expect the worst."

Looks to me like a sliding scale of a reaction to the same unknown - the future.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


Hope for the best and plan for the worst, but expect nothing.
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I find expecting nothing impossible, because there is always something happening, so nothing can never happen. It's like 0 to me - nonexistent.

Lol, reading that, that may be an aether thought.
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Do you think expectation and hope are the same thing? I was just thinking, if they are, living without expectation would be living without hope.

Hard pass.
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I think they are, in a sense, the same thing.

"Hope for the best, but expect the worst."

Looks to me like a sliding scale of a reaction to the same unknown - the future.
 Quoting: It's A Secret


Hope for the best and plan for the worst, but expect nothing.
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I find expecting nothing impossible, because there is always something happening, so nothing can never happen. It's like 0 to me - nonexistent.

Lol, reading that, that may be an aether thought.
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lol
Whatever that means...
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I think they are, in a sense, the same thing.

"Hope for the best, but expect the worst."

Looks to me like a sliding scale of a reaction to the same unknown - the future.
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Hope for the best and plan for the worst, but expect nothing.
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I find expecting nothing impossible, because there is always something happening, so nothing can never happen. It's like 0 to me - nonexistent.

Lol, reading that, that may be an aether thought.
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lol
Whatever that means...
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Something aether said that I agree with enough for it to be true to me.
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Hope for the best and plan for the worst, but expect nothing.
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I find expecting nothing impossible, because there is always something happening, so nothing can never happen. It's like 0 to me - nonexistent.

Lol, reading that, that may be an aether thought.


lol
Whatever that means...


Something aether said that I agree with enough for it to be true to me.


Good enough.

It's a crazy world out there kid!
Keep yer head up ;)
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Good enough.

It's a crazy world out there kid!
Keep yer head up ;)
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Indeed it is.

And the same to you. :)
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Hidden patterns of cells



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After seeing that.. threw the general causality theory (gct) out of window.

The gct is too simple to explain the mundane and complexity of what shown on the video.

Well, I guess I could go back to do 3D modelling art.
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i noticed something today
my measurements of failure are mostly matching other peoples measurements of success
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what aether is attempting to imply is that the reciprocal is also a function that his alternate reality! lol





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