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And she hints at the wrench of reacquainting herself with sequential time – a recovery sometimes experienced as a new form of loss.
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But one would need to think carefully about the word “after”. For Riley’s compelling thesis concerns the strange way in which sequential time is arrested after a sudden death. In one sense, there is no “after”. She finds herself captive to the present tense. It is as if she has died yet is more alive than ever: “You are cut down, and yet you burn with life”.

Interesting.
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the politics of death within the politics of god within the living


is the impression not said in what i read

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the good thing about death is that it traditionally turns more people off dieing than it ever does turning people onto dieing
not populist
looking back 12000 years or so likely death itself limited the volume of killing we do which itself likely played a significant role in keeping enough ancestors alive while we think about our living

feels like that
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the good thing about death is that it traditionally turns more people off dieing than it ever does turning people onto dieing
not populist
looking back 12000 years or so likely death itself limited the volume of killing we do which itself likely played a significant role in keeping enough ancestors alive while we think about our living

feels like that
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Any idea where there is? Some place you are trying to reach?
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through coherent death into coherent life is the visual that arose
not for any imminent thought
its where the way goes
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Life can be beautiful yes? Always room to transform. To grow. To fly. Choose your own adventure..choices “matter” .
 Quoting: *Arabella*


that which is not you causes transformation of you
true
emotional bonds become not only you
always people and things bond with you while living and their emotional experiences shape your transformation

hovering around that
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why i don't go to australia is because it looks like a big island became burned out quick and living around the edge of a big burned island don't do anything for my senses
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The gold coast though, whole region loks like some utopian sim city land. If I had to chose and had the means its the first place I would go.
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i wonder why everything comes here to gaia to die

i was hovering on that thinking not about myself then eventually i just did and the notion of my own death is not fulling to explain yet so im deferring my meaning of death

is where i am
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a. Perceptive Order of Things
By thinking / feeling about a past or future, we either construct or re-construct thoughtforms creating a narration of sort. Linear time. A story of sort. It can feed into the cognition, then becomes a belief thus sequential shaping belief, perspective, and then perception. While if a belief is increasingly becoming held, it can act as pre-determiner of some future actions and no matter what event that happen outside of an individual with belief, he or she will either conscious or subconsciously correlates it to as being in agreement with his or her belief in order to function coherently within universe. With that in mind, some of other people who look at time differently can potentially take advantage (eg. control) of that for whatever reason.

b. Perceptive Chaotic of Things
By thinking / feeling about the 'now' moment, we actualize an event and experience it as it is. Timeless experience.

c. Merge and Situational Dependence, of a and b
Thinking / feeling about the now while with a degree of awareness of what happening relative to an individual, this is as prioritizing a moment to moment action based on a shaping belief.

Ultimately, this leads us to talking about the truth (a belief) being shaped in-between a belief, perspective, and perception.
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Remains of Long-Lost Temple Discovered in Iraq

Life-size human statues and column bases from a long-lost temple dedicated to a supreme god have been discovered in the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq.

The discoveries date back over 2,500 years to the Iron Age, a time period when several groups — such as the Urartians, Assyrians and Scythians — vied for supremacy over what is now northern Iraq.....
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this is the visible signs of our taking the levant [link to en.wikipedia.org] backwards in linear time to match the new authorized dating from sphinx and gobi tepe and in the process we discover the levant (high culture) societies history/meaning prior to what we kept record used to say occurred before about 3000 yrs to 4000 years ago which we did not talk about really past stone age people
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They were pretty cool. They were the orignal cowboys. They never taught you about them in school.

Their burial mounds are found across Europe and Asia, from Uppsala Sweden to Korea (burial mounds are also found in North America). Offshoots of the Scythians became the Perisans, the Greeks and the Vedic culture in India that left us a rich spiritual tradition and Sanskrit.

The Buddha, or Shakyamuni Buddha, "The Scythian Sage" was from a Scythian warrior tribe.


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No more top-to-bottom (pyramid) religions, politics, and money. Look at these altogether is doing to all people worldwide presently and behind events throughout history.
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No more top-to-bottom (pyramid) religions, politics, and money. Look at these altogether is doing to all people worldwide presently and behind events throughout history.
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chinese tell me that without an emperor they kill one another until they get one
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No more top-to-bottom (pyramid) religions, politics, and money. Look at these altogether is doing to all people worldwide presently and behind events throughout history.
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chinese tell me that without an emperor they kill one another until they get one
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I have some conflicted thoughts and feelings about that.
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No more top-to-bottom (pyramid) religions, politics, and money. Look at these altogether is doing to all people worldwide presently and behind events throughout history.
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chinese tell me that without an emperor they kill one another until they get one
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I have some conflicted thoughts and feelings about that.
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disarming

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No more top-to-bottom (pyramid) religions, politics, and money. Look at these altogether is doing to all people worldwide presently and behind events throughout history.
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chinese tell me that without an emperor they kill one another until they get one
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I have some conflicted thoughts and feelings about that.
 Quoting: Xlegic


disarming


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I see.

I think/feel that I have been avoiding the concept of Kwisatz Haderach.. emperor of Humanity in Dune novels, for some time now. Because of trap.

the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once"
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chinese tell me that without an emperor they kill one another until they get one
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I have some conflicted thoughts and feelings about that.
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disarming


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I see.

I think/feel that I have been avoiding the concept of Kwisatz Haderach.. emperor of Humanity in Dune novels, for some time now. Because of trap.

the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once"
[link to dune.fandom.com (secure)]
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meaning of death causes meaning of life before you become born two people said
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meaning of death causes meaning of life before you become born two people said
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i quite like that
could become a song that is not sung yet
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He brings up some interesting points. I'm thinking specifically about the question of whether they were contemporary societies.
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How old, then, is this ancient memory of a lost paradise? In their myths, rites and hymns the ancient Sumerians contrasted their own time to the earliest remembered age--what they called "the days of old," or "that day," when the gods "gave man abundance, the day when vegetation flourished." This was when the supreme god An "engendered the year of abundance." To this primeval age, every Sumerian priest looked back as the reference for the preferred order of things, which
was lost through later conflict and deluge.

In the city of Eridu at the mouth of the Euphrates, the priests recalled a Golden Age prior to familiar history. The predecessors of their race, it was claimed, had formerly reposed in the paradise of Dilmun, called the "Pure Place" of man's genesis. This lost paradise of Dilmun, about which scholars have debated for decades, is strangely reminiscent of the paradise of Eden.

"That place was pure, that place was clean. In Dilmun...the lion mangled not. The wolf ravaged not the lambs," the Sumerian texts read. The inhabitants of this paradise lived in a state of near perfection, in communion with the gods, drinking the waters of life and enjoying unbounded prosperity.

Ancient Egypt, an acknowledged cradle of civilization, preserved a remarkably similar memory. Not just in their religious and mythical texts, but in every sacred activity, the Egyptians incessantly looked backwards, to events of the Zep Tepi. The phrase means the "First Time," a time of perfection "before rage or clamor or strife or uproar had come about," as the texts themselves put it. This was the paradise of Ra, and the memories of that time echoed through centuries of Egyptian thought. "The land was in abundance," the texts say. "There was no year of hunger. . .Walls did not fall; thorns did not pierce in the time of the Primeval Gods."

Or from another text: "there was no unrighteousness in the land, no crocodile seized, no snake bit in the time of the First Gods."

Cosmic harmony, abundance, paradise on earth. To this paradisal, according to the great nineteenth century scholar Francois Lenormant, the Egyptians "continually looked back with regret and envy." The golden age of Ra was, for the Egyptians, the great "example" setting a standard for all later ages.

A surprising fact emerges. The legend of the Golden Age or ancient paradise is as old as civilization. And the implications are well worth pondering. A coherent set of ideas has survived all of the twists and turns of cultural evolution for at least five thousand years--and on every continent. Now that's an astonishing verification of the durability of myth! Many of us had always thought of myth as the outcome of reckless invention--illiterate savages entertaining themselves by contriving magical stories out of nothing. Imagine such a process going on for thousands of years, and ask yourself if any possibility of a universal memory would remain.

Bear in mind that the myth-makers did not just recount a charming tale; they strove desperately to recover what was lost. In the infancy of civilization collective activity reflects a singular reference to the age of the gods--the honoring of the gods through celebration, representation, reenactment, codification, and massive construction activity. In fact, there are numerous grounds for saying that civilization itself was the outcome of this fundamentally religious activity.

Perhaps the most accomplished analyst of mythology in modern times was the late Mircea Eliade, chairman of the Department of History of Religions at the University of Chicago, and editor of the Encyclopedia of Religion. From his meticulous, lifelong survey of the subject, professor Eliade drew a stunning conclusion: literally every component of early civilizations--from religion to art and architecture--expressed symbolically the desire to recover and to re-live the lost Golden Age. That which symbolically transported the participant back to the First Time, the Golden Age, was sacred. That which did not was transient and mundane, of no interest.

The role of this memory in the ancient cultures carries vast implications for our understanding of the events that provoked human imagination in the myth-making epoch. Early man yearned for a return to paradise. Every coronation of a king, every New Year's festival, monumental construction, every recitation of temple hymns and prayers, every holy war, every sacrifice to the gods was motivated by a desire to recapture some aspect of the Golden Age, to live, if only for a symbolic moment, in that enchanted, opening chapter in the book of gods and wonders.
 Quoting: Common Beginings


Between the time that has gone and the time that got us here is as far back as we have travelled.
 Quoting: nonmaterial structure 464108


He brings up some interesting points. I'm thinking specifically about the question of whether they were contemporary societies.
 Quoting: It's A Secret



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Those posts put together made something click for me. I'm not sure I'm seeing it right, but it feels close.
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Those posts put together made something click for me. I'm not sure I'm seeing it right, but it feels close.
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yes
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key issue
key came out of nowhere for lock of the defence structure

safe mode
i say
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There are over 500 cultures worldwide with legends of a great deluge. Survivors include single individuals or small groups. All seemed to have been forewarned of an impending catastrophe. They escaped by seeking high ground, caves, or by means of various objects that would float.

In summing up, something catastrophic happened at the end of the last ice age. Myths by people who experienced this help us better understand what occurred.
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It seems almost unbelievable that the altered night skies, and especially the rotation of the dome of the stars, would have the effect that it did in generating a half dozen new religions, initiating an historical awareness, and be the genesis of the study of physics. It is even more astounding to see these changes happening worldwide and at almost the same time -- in Babylonia, Greece, India, China, and Mesoamerica. The simultaneity of the interests in these topics is amazing, especially considering the lack of cultural contacts. This has been remarked upon by others.

If you look for the history of any of the Greek cities, or the nations of the Middle East, or China, you will see that in most instances history cannot be traced back before 600 or 700 BC. Everything disappears into legends. It is as if the world suddenly woke up, and abstract thought was first allowed after 600 BC.

The fact is that far-flung regions of the world all simultaneously came to the same conclusions about the universe and the world. This suggests the possibility of something global being the cause of the new sciences, philosophies, and inquiries.
 Quoting: today

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chinese tell me that without an emperor they kill one another until they get one
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I have some conflicted thoughts and feelings about that.
 Quoting: Xlegic


disarming


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I see.

I think/feel that I have been avoiding the concept of Kwisatz Haderach.. emperor of Humanity in Dune novels, for some time now. Because of trap.

the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once"
[link to dune.fandom.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Xlegic


I don't believe in emperors/empresses/dicators.

What I believe in is...

Democracy, people agree mutually amongst on whom possess whatever knowledge, skill, and experience by for each of self to fill in a role.

The power is meant to be delegated to each individual servicing / volunteering / contributing said above to make world a better place.

Altogether we can hopefully make the world a better place to live in for now to future, for all generations.

Fundamentally because of the principle of freewill. It has to be respected.

I knew what I said so far, but I have forgotten for some time. Because darkness or the dark side almost took me or I almost fell into it.


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fundermentaly our free will notion visibly functions because of what our environment is doing to us while we utilize our will within it

deciding what environment we are within
and what you do with yourself in deciding that seems reasonable thought to possess in lifestyle

impression
performance
storyline

always

nice topic xlegic

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There are over 500 cultures worldwide with legends of a great deluge. Survivors include single individuals or small groups. All seemed to have been forewarned of an impending catastrophe. They escaped by seeking high ground, caves, or by means of various objects that would float.

In summing up, something catastrophic happened at the end of the last ice age. Myths by people who experienced this help us better understand what occurred.
 Quoting: today

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]
 Quoting: aether


It seems almost unbelievable that the altered night skies, and especially the rotation of the dome of the stars, would have the effect that it did in generating a half dozen new religions, initiating an historical awareness, and be the genesis of the study of physics. It is even more astounding to see these changes happening worldwide and at almost the same time -- in Babylonia, Greece, India, China, and Mesoamerica. The simultaneity of the interests in these topics is amazing, especially considering the lack of cultural contacts. This has been remarked upon by others.

If you look for the history of any of the Greek cities, or the nations of the Middle East, or China, you will see that in most instances history cannot be traced back before 600 or 700 BC. Everything disappears into legends. It is as if the world suddenly woke up, and abstract thought was first allowed after 600 BC.

The fact is that far-flung regions of the world all simultaneously came to the same conclusions about the universe and the world. This suggests the possibility of something global being the cause of the new sciences, philosophies, and inquiries.
 Quoting: today

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 Quoting: aether


Something I've thought about quite a bit. Nice topic.
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I don't believe in emperors/empresses/dicators.

What I believe in is...

Democracy, people agree mutually amongst on whom possess whatever knowledge, skill, and experience by for each of self to fill in a role.

The power is meant to be delegated to each individual servicing / volunteering / contributing said above to make world a better place.

Altogether we can hopefully make the world a better place to live in for now to future, for all generations.

Fundamentally because of the principle of freewill. It has to be respected.

I knew what I said so far, but I have forgotten for some time. Because darkness or the dark side almost took me or I almost fell into it.


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when i woke up today my village was silent and everything closed
the bars have now opened hours late and i now discovered why on the net

Constitution Day is, therefore, a celebration of the day Spain became a democracy and December 6th has been a national holiday in Spain since 1983.

Spain's Congress opens its doors to the public on December 6th and those that visit on this day will be given a commemorative gift.

The day is seen by most Spaniards as the start of the December holidays and a long weekend is normally taken in conjunction with the Feast of the Immaculate Conception.
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There are over 500 cultures worldwide with legends of a great deluge. Survivors include single individuals or small groups. All seemed to have been forewarned of an impending catastrophe. They escaped by seeking high ground, caves, or by means of various objects that would float.

In summing up, something catastrophic happened at the end of the last ice age. Myths by people who experienced this help us better understand what occurred.
 Quoting: today

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]
 Quoting: aether


It seems almost unbelievable that the altered night skies, and especially the rotation of the dome of the stars, would have the effect that it did in generating a half dozen new religions, initiating an historical awareness, and be the genesis of the study of physics. It is even more astounding to see these changes happening worldwide and at almost the same time -- in Babylonia, Greece, India, China, and Mesoamerica. The simultaneity of the interests in these topics is amazing, especially considering the lack of cultural contacts. This has been remarked upon by others.

If you look for the history of any of the Greek cities, or the nations of the Middle East, or China, you will see that in most instances history cannot be traced back before 600 or 700 BC. Everything disappears into legends. It is as if the world suddenly woke up, and abstract thought was first allowed after 600 BC.

The fact is that far-flung regions of the world all simultaneously came to the same conclusions about the universe and the world. This suggests the possibility of something global being the cause of the new sciences, philosophies, and inquiries.
 Quoting: today

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: aether


Something I've thought about quite a bit. Nice topic.
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feast of the immaculate conception
i like the notion today
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civilizing sex

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